United States Corrupt Twattery

[Job]

To me a more accurate comparison to the US voting Trump in would be us voting Nigel Farage to be PM, yes we had Brexit but a lot of people who voted for it would never vote for Farage.

We did vote him in as an MEP, which ultimately made him far more influential...everyone needs to be reminded of this, UKIP won the national vote to represent us in the EU.
I think the seed was planted there.

WIKI
Farage was a founding member of UKIP, having left the Conservative Party in 1992 after the signing of the Maastricht Treaty.[9] After unsuccessfully campaigning in European and Westminster parliamentary elections for UKIP since 1994, he was elected MEP for South East England in the 1999 European Parliament election. He was subsequently re-elected in 2004, 2009 and, most recently, at the 2014 European parliament election.

In September 2006, Farage became the UKIP Leader and led the party through the 2009 European Parliament Election, when it won the second highest share of the popular vote, defeating Labour and the Liberal Democrats with over two million votes

 

[Raven]

We are probably all on some form of list by now, not the list @Job is on but a list.

 

[Raven]

Anyone watch Sean Spicer's meltdown? Sounds like he is about to have a stroke, followed by emptying his bowls.

Fucking hell though, its all getting a bit 1933

 

[Raven]

My money is on Farage to turn up at the Trump/May meeting, thrash out a trade and get a knighthood.

 

[Job]

The Whitehouse website seems to have dropped the Spanish version..little things like that really bring this shit home.
They have said it will come back..but no timescale given.
This is all getting a bit La Revolution.

 

[TdC]

didn't know that, Job. scary shit eh? to put my liberal hand wringer suit back on, gosh, the briefs on el presidente and the cabinet and stuff read like they were written for second year book report hand-in's. I suppose they have to cater for everyone on the site, but jeez.

 

[Ctuchik]

We are probably all on some form of list by now,

Sweet!

 

[Bodhi]

Think I;ve found the bravest man in America. Big Joe, Trump supporter in LA caught up in the Women's March, saying his piece.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPqrimR8GWw


Legend imo.

 

[Job]

You're on a bicycle and you're wrong.
Quote of the year.

 

[Bodhi]

That did make me laugh. "You're on a bike and you're oblivious!".

Cool story bro.....

 

[Bodhi]

Looks like Trump has said he's going to kick off construction of the oil pipelines through Native American lands.

Must admit when it comes to this sort of thing I have my reservations.

 

[Zarjazz]

... Native American lands.
.... reservations.

 

[Bodhi]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

 

[Wij]

Inside The Private Chatrooms Trump Supporters Are Using To Manipulate French Voters

The shitposting kids are moving on France of course.

 

[caLLous]

It only takes a very cursory look at www.reddit.com/r/the_donald to see the level of person that would be behind that kind of thing.

 

[Wij]

It only takes a very cursory look at www.reddit.com/r/the_donald to see the level of person that would be behind that kind of thing.

People who get their news from any of these sites:
The List

 

[Hawkwind]

Looks like Trump has said he's going to kick off construction of the oil pipelines through Native American lands.

Must admit when it comes to this sort of thing I have my reservations.

It's not through the lands, they showed the maps on the news last night. It goes around the Sioux nation lands but they are now saying that is irrelevant as all the land was stolen from them anyway as part of the creation of reservations. It happened 200 years ago ffs!

 

[Ctuchik]

So lets see here. He's signed the go ahead for that pipeline and to pull USA out of the TTP, signed the order to build the wall and to stop all financial support to all international relief organizations that provide women with contraception and access to safe abortion. Told EPA and a few other agencies to shut the fuck up and said he will remove all federal subsidies for electric cars.

It happened 200 years ago ffs!

Meaning what? That they should be happy they got anything at all left? So theoretically speaking you should be fine with another nation invading your country and placing you in a reservation? I mean sooner or later it'll have been "200 years ago ffs!" so it shouldn't matter...

No? Didn't think so..

 

[Bodhi]

Pipelines - building them will mean they no longer have to transport crude by road and rail, massively increasing safety. If they don't go through reservations, what's the issue?

TPP - don't know enough about the ins and outs of this one, but I do know Bernie has praised Trump for it. *shrugs*

International Abortions - not great at all, but it is a political football that's been kicked around for years. I do think you've embellished what has happened ever so slightly - it just means US Aid can't be used to pay for them as an alternative to contraception, which I can understand - surely from a moral standpoint, contraception is preferable to abortion?

EPA - he's just told them to focus on real issues like air and water quality, neither of which the EPA have been too hot with recently, preferring political activism to actually cleaning the place up.

Milk Float Subsidies - about time imo. Firstly if EV's are as great as we are led to believe they should be able to stand on their own two feet without subsidies, which if you look at what happened in Denmark when they reduced subsidies, you'd doubt that was the case. Also, I'm not entirely sure why the working man's taxes should go towards easing a rich Californian's guilt when they order themselves a $100k Tesla.

The Wall - isn't there already a 30ft fence across most of the border?

 

[Scouse]

The Wall - isn't there already a 30ft fence across most of the border?

This is the only thing we need to focus on to debate Trump tbh.

Waste of money, waste of resources, ineffective, inward-looking, proven idiotic bullshit.

Anyone who can't see how absolutely and utterly retarded this is on myriad levels needs to take a long hard look at themselves. If it's a vote winner then shame on democracy for pandering to the sort of sub-normal human who thinks this is a good idea. Their votes and voices count as much as the next man, but it's for leaders to lead by example. And on any level, Trump is showing himself to be a terrible example...

 

[Job]

I agree with all of it except issuing every American with a bazooka and banning Afros.
Oh...ah well, it should be in there.

 

[Job]

This is the only thing we need to focus on to debate Trump tbh.

Waste of money, waste of resources, ineffective, inward-looking, proven idiotic bullshit.

Anyone who can't see how absolutely and utterly retarded this is on myriad levels needs to take a long hard look at themselves. If it's a vote winner then shame on democracy for pandering to the sort of sub-normal human who thinks this is a good idea. Their votes and voices count as much as the next man, but it's for leaders to lead by example. And on any level, Trump is showing himself to be a terrible example...

I don't know how protectionism is going to play out in a modern global economy, but he's certainly stamping on a lot of toes in a way that Clinton wouldn't have dreamt of.
At lest we'll get to see who yelps.

 

[Scouse]

International Abortions - not great at all, but it is a political football that's been kicked around for years. I do think you've embellished what has happened ever so slightly - it just means US Aid can't be used to pay for them as an alternative to contraception, which I can understand - surely from a moral standpoint, contraception is preferable to abortion?

You're wrong on a number of things here.

1) It outlaws giving advice to vulnerable women. An NGO that doesn't perform abortions but simply gives advice (which saves lives) is going to take the hit and lose £100 million in funding. It outlaws doing the right thing - talking openly and honestly with cold hard medical facts to vulnerable women in poverty-stricken areas where there's no shortage of nutbar religious groups to fuck them over.

2) Study after study has proven that women will seek abortions come what may. Withdrawal of abortion services drives them underground or into illegality - and costs lives. According to the WHO the policy that Trump has just rescinded has saved over quarter of a million lives.

3) Lives over religiously-dictated morality, remember? Unless you're standing up for the Catholic Church's moral stance? - and just to clarify, are you?

You made the statement that from a moral standpoint contraception is preferable to abortion. But what about when pregnant women turn up? Is it morally preferable to turn them away full in the knowledge that you're condemning many of them to agonising death?

 

[Scouse]

Just to add to that, the WHO estimates that unsafe abortions account for 13% of maternal deaths worldwide and 99% of maternal deaths happen in the developing world.

 

[Bodhi]

You're wrong on a number of things here.

1) It outlaws giving advice to vulnerable women. An NGO that doesn't perform abortions but simply gives advice (which saves lives) is going to take the hit and lose £100 million in funding. It outlaws doing the right thing - talking openly and honestly with cold hard medical facts to vulnerable women in poverty-stricken areas where there's no shortage of nutbar religious groups to fuck them over.

2) Study after study has proven that women will seek abortions come what may. Withdrawal of abortion services drives them underground or into illegality - and costs lives. According to the WHO the policy that Trump has just rescinded has saved over quarter of a million lives.

3) Lives over religiously-dictated morality, remember? Unless you're standing up for the Catholic Church's moral stance? - and just to clarify, are you?

You made the statement that from a moral standpoint contraception is preferable to abortion. But what about when pregnant women turn up? Is it morally preferable to turn them away full in the knowledge that you're condemning many of them to agonising death?

I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the stick as usual - I wasn't advocating it as good idea in the slightest, just attempting to understand the logic behind it. However we're looking a bit too deeply into this, the reason the Mexico City policy was reinstated?

The ban, derided as a "global gag rule" by its critics, has been the subject of a political tug-of-war ever since its inception, with every Democratic president rescinding the measure, and every Republican bringing it back.

So because Republican then, and their love of imposing their moral code on the world. However I don't think this is a Trump specific issue, as no matter who the Republicans nominated, they would have done the same.

 

[Scouse]

I don't think this is a Trump specific issue, as no matter who the Republicans nominated, they would have done the same.

True. But he still signed the order. He wasn't forced.

Therefore = cunt.

In one swipe of his pen he's killed lots of vulnerable women. Fact.

 

[Job]

Yeah..but he's just nailed his voting status with back street abortionists.

 

[caLLous]

Trump bans government scientists from sharing their work with the taxpayers who funded it

 

[Scouse]

Yeah..but he's just nailed his voting status with back street abortionists.

Very funny @Job. Totes hilair.

If humour helps you ignore a very real and verifiable fact to keep your wank-buddy pure then who am I to argue eh?

 

[Scouse]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI