United States Corrupt Twattery

[caLLous]

Someone should tell all the states that have bent over backwards to bring these companies in to build - through subsidies, tax breaks, ignoring environmental laws/studies/concerns... - that "no US state would want data centres".

 

[BloodOmen]

Someone should tell all the states that have bent over backwards to bring these companies in to build - through subsidies, tax breaks, ignoring environmental laws/studies/concerns... - that "no US state would want data centres".

Just asked AI (irony?) to do an assessment on states with fucked power grids lol


Based on recent reports, multiple U.S. states are experiencing strained power grids, driven by extreme weather, surging demand from data centers/AI, and aging infrastructure.

• Texas (ERCOT): As an independent grid, Texas is highly vulnerable, experiencing recurring strain during winter freezes and summer heatwaves,, according to The Week and Generac.
• California: Faces severe stress from heat waves, wildfires, and high demand, frequently leading to power conservation calls and "public safety power shutoffs".
• Mid-Atlantic & Northeast (PJM Interconnection): Parts of Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, and Illinois are under extreme strain, with reports highlighting, according to Reuters, that AI and data center energy consumption are outpacing power generation, potentially leading to rolling blackouts.
• Southeast: Regions in Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee are seeing increased strain from both, according to Stateline and Generac, extreme weather and data center growth.
• Louisiana & Mississippi: Frequently ranked among the worst for grid reliability due to severe, recurring, according to Ooma and Generac, weather damage (hurricanes/storms).
• New England (specifically Maine): Identified by some analyses, according to Reddit users and Ooma, as having among the least reliable grids due to, according to Reddit users, poor infrastructure in heavily wooded areas.
• Montana: Cited, according to TikTok user @dryfterhomes, for an aging system that is falling behind modern energy demands.

Key Drivers of Strain:

• Extreme Weather: Increased frequency of heat waves and, according to Yahoo News UK and Yahoo Finance,, severe winter storms.
• Data Centers/AI: Rapid,, according to Reuters and GovTech, expansion of high-energy data centers.

Not be long before they're knocking on Greenlands door again. Unless of course they turn their work for into Chinese workforces and build more power plants in record time.

 

[SilverHood]

So why did America really want Greenland? Is it because they wanted to deploy their Golden Dome there? Yes and no. They also wanted to turn Greenland into the primary location for housing data centres because it’s naturally cold, has access to virtually unlimited water for additional cooling, and has geothermal energy that would be sufficient to power the data centres.

Trump likely was offered billions if he could secure Greenland by firms like NVIDIA, AMD, and Microsoft, because realistically it’s the only place they could house all of their data centres. No U.S. state would want data centres because they would be a massive drain on already stressed power grids, consume a lot of water (likely significantly impacting drinking water supplies), and produce a lot of pollution in the immediate area.

And for what? All for AI — fucking AI again...

The USA isn’t done with Greenland yet. Mark my words: they will try again.

There's also the natural resources. Lots of rare heavy earth minerals, and the coastline would allow offshore drilling for oil and gas. Not to mention the strategic location, both for controlling the new melting arctic sea routes, and for putting long range missiles there. He'd be able to strike everywhere in the northern hemisphere with impunity. In Trump's mind, Greenland is prime real estate that's wasted on a minnow like Denmark, and the way he sees the world, Denmark is going to lose it sooner or later, and if so, it might as well be sooner, to the USA.

 

[Scouse]

Someone should tell all the states that have bent over backwards to bring these companies in to build - through subsidies, tax breaks, ignoring environmental laws/studies/concerns... - that "no US state would want data centres".

I'd rather be having a pop at the UK government here - since we're bending over backwards to site US datacentres in blighty, and our electricity bills will end up subsidising them.

For a country with the highest power costs in the G7 that sounds fucking peachy.

 

[BloodOmen]

I'd rather be having a pop at the UK government here - since we're bending over backwards to site US datacentres in blighty, and our electricity bills will end up subsidising them.

For a country with the highest power costs in the G7 that sounds fucking peachy.

That I didn't know, where abouts?

 

[Gwadien]

I'd rather be having a pop at the UK government here - since we're bending over backwards to site US datacentres in blighty, and our electricity bills will end up subsidising them.

For a country with the highest power costs in the G7 that sounds fucking peachy.

Isn't one of the complaints businesses have is that they pay the highest power costs?

IE not subsidised by the tax payer?

 

[Scouse]

That I didn't know, where abouts?

O/H was working on a blue hydrogen plant in Teeside for the past few years. (Blue Hydrogen is a greenwashing scam itself, but hey...). They were going to place it right next to a SSSI.

But regardless, that's been canned in favour of an AI datacentre. And there's others.

Isn't one of the complaints businesses have is that they pay the highest power costs?

IE not subsidised by the tax payer?

Who's paying for all the network upgrades?

How much are we paying in artifically-inflated tied-to-wholesale-gas strike price for renewables?

It ain't business paying for that. It's all of us.

 

[caLLous]

"How can I turn this US issue in the US thread into an attack on Labour?"

 

[Scouse]

"How can I focus my anger entirely on the United States when there's just as bad shit going on at home?"

I mean, there might, just might, be something in that.

The bit about greenland was absolutely relevant - because we're moaning about the states not wanting AI datacentres in the US - and we're bending over backwards to fund them out of taxpayers pockets.

100% relevant.


In other news our one-time de-facto deputy Prime Minister has just been arrested for passing information to a known paedophile and our current prime minister re-hired him. But LOOK AT THE STATES!

 

[Deebs]

Spoiler

How to remove @Scouse from the living, setup a surprise birthday party full of Labour supporters for him. Oh and host it on his farm in the big shed.

Sorry for derailing but thought I would try to inject a little humour, please don't post any replies to this.

 

[Gwadien]

Spoiler

How to remove @Scouse from the living, setup a surprise birthday party full of Labour supporters for him. Oh and host it on his farm in the big shed.

Sorry for derailing but thought I would try to inject a little humour, please don't post any replies to this.

ok

 

[BloodOmen]