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How many times have I said the Christian right will respond to Islamic terrorism.
By 'respond to' I assume you mean 'take advantage of to push the intolerant agenda they wanted anyway'.
 

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Kinda chicken egg really.
Was Trump helped to the Whitehouse on a subtle Chritian right agenda or is it a marriage of convenience.
Either way, things have been put in motion for fundamentalism in the US.
And that is never going to be good for brown people.
 

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Surely the Americans are smelling the fire now.

If they wanted to make America great again for Americans, Trump would have given the education job to a former teacher, health to a former doctor etc etc.

Just seems to be he's just creating a new political elite
 

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Surely the Americans are smelling the fire now.

If they wanted to make America great again for Americans, Trump would have given the education job to a former teacher, health to a former doctor etc etc.

Just seems to be he's just creating a new political elite

Overly wealthy man acts in self interest, shock horror! :D
 

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Surely the Americans are smelling the fire now.

If they wanted to make America great again for Americans, Trump would have given the education job to a former teacher, health to a former doctor etc etc.

Just seems to be he's just creating a new political elite

it's oddly endearing of you to make such a naive statement Gwad *hugs*
 

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Watching the world leaders denouncing Trump as dangerous and inexperienced.
Simply because he didn't follow strict protocol, well get used to it fuckers, the most powerful man in the world doesn't seem to give a shit...oh my, what will they do?
Ban him from the golf club.
 

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They can do much more then that. I think he's going to learn that being the "most powerful man in the world" doesn't actually mean as much as he thinks outside USA...
 

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What exactly?
Ban exports to the US?
Invade Taiwan?
Impose UN sanctions?
 

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Nope..ain't happenin.
The end game is Americas military might, they could destroy China without breaking stride.
 

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Nope..ain't happenin.
The end game is Americas military might, they could destroy China without breaking stride.
Apart from the nuclear thing, right?


Edit: I know we're not calling names, but you're obviously talking hypothetically, because to discount the nuclear thing would be utterly completely retarded, right?
 

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I was referring to US's nuclear capability, but of course China is catching up fastish.
 

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Nuclear would not come into it because of guaranteed mutual destruction.

Not that either would want a traditional war anyway. Future wars between large nations will be fought with a keyboard and the stock market. The logistics of a proper war between them would be insane. Trump might say a lot of bollocks but nobody is really taking him seriously, all he will manage is screwing America domestically. Most of what he wants to do will be reversed or not even completed in 4 years time. A diplomatic black hole.

Russia and the EU/NATO? Maybe, highly unlikely...but even then it would likely just be skirmishes and a stand off with a load of keyboard warrior stuff thrown in.

The optimist in me thinks that actually the longer everyone just spies on each other and finds fuck all that actually really matters, the closer we get to everyone saying fuck it, lets be buds.

Although, really, the meteor can't come quick enough.
 
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I was referring to US's nuclear capability, but of course China is catching up fastish.
So, you're not of the commonly held view that a nuclear shooting war would be the death of all of us - and that's why the whole MAD doctrine is supposed to work?

You think using nukes is fair game? Like Trump?
 

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Call in a trillion dollars of debt?

I'm not at all sure about this but I would imagine the repayment terms of debt on that scale would be set in law, making it impossible to "call in".
 

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So, you're not of the commonly held view that a nuclear shooting war would be the death of all of us - and that's why the whole MAD doctrine is supposed to work?

You think using nukes is fair game? Like Trump?
No, it's because of Americas hugely superior technology that would stop China even starting.
More Like China's assured destruction.
 

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No, it's because of Americas hugely superior technology that would stop China even starting.
If China used up a 3rd of it's paltry nuclear arsenal the world would be fucked.

So, lets clear this up once and for all as I've asked it directly before to no answer: Do you think using nukes is fair game?
 

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The threat certainly is, would we use them (again)..would I back a first strike?..no
Retaliation?..yes

And no, Chinas nukes wouldn't fuck the world, not even close,
 

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The threat certainly is, would we use them (again)..would I back a first strike?..no
Retaliation?..yes

And no, Chinas nukes wouldn't fuck the world, not even close,
So, you're in favour of the murdering of millions of innocents who have no control over their political masters. Fine.

I mean, retaliatory nuclear war *definitely* fucks the world - so the only rational choice, as far as the survival of the human race is concerned, is to surrender if we get nuked. If the willingness of our political enemies (not the people, remember) to bring overwhelming destructive force to bear upon one part of our planet is met with our willingness to do the same to them "because they did it first" (like a child) then we're fucked as a race.

I know that'd please the "fuck 'em all let the world burn"-ers like Raven, who would be happy as a pig as shit in his bunker for 6 months eating beans before he died, but it would be a sad end. I'd rather have my bluff called than be responsible for the death of all life on this planet due to idiocy.

But that's just me I guess.


As for China's nukes not fucking the world, the models suggest just 100 nukes (or, alternatively, conventionally lit firestorms of the same magnitude) would cause "nuclear" winter. So unless you consider nuclear winter an advantageous situation for the existence of life on this planet then I advise reconsideration of your position.

But then, with your tin-foil hat protecting you against "experts" who use "models" then I daresay you could continue to ignore those facts in favour of your "nukes can't be that bad" ready-reckon views :)
 

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Have to say I'm pretty reassured that the new secretary of defense has the nickname "mad dog".
 

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I'm so at ease with Trump as president, but every now and then..bit like thinking about death..I go holy fucking shit...he's gonna meet world leaders, appear in photo ops.
Be on the TV after national disasters.

Just what the living fuck.
 

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According to mainstream media he is nominating some real nasty people for secretary-posts.
 

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How you can have creationists as secretary of anything is beyond me. They clearly don't have good judgement.
 

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Hardly surprising however when you look at the criteria for Time Person of the Year - generally the person who has had the biggest effect on world events for the last 12 months, for better or for worse.

Just have a butchers at who won it in 1938, and 1939 for that matter. It really doesn't have to be a good effect they have.....
 

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The backlash begins...did Islam really think it was going to get away with poking the fat bear.
 

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