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You really don't want to play the game of "which candidate has the most repulsive followers".
 

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I do find it funny when the right calls everyone who opposes them a 'liberal' and the left calls everyone who opposes them 'fascists' neither group likes these labels. :p

I mean its not like that everyone who disagrees with Trump/UKIP etc are lefties/liberals much like most people who disagree with 'mainstream politics' are righties/fascists
I just don't see how liberal is an insult..... You fucking accepting bastard and your views that people should be equal and treated fairly!!!! How dare you see foriegners, women and the poor as people!!! you disgusting cunt! kill yourself....


Like wait what? how can those views actually offend anyone.....
 

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I just don't see how liberal is an insult..... You fucking accepting bastard and your views that people should be equal and treated fairly!!!!

Buuut, that is not modern liberalism. Modern liberalism is all about shutting down discussion and screaming insults, you just need to read the posts in the Brexit thread to see what it is all about. Watch the vid posted by myself and Gwadian, Pie says it better than I am capable of doing.

Not the majority obviously but as with the right any debate gets drowned out by the fanatical.
 

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If you see foreigners, women or blacks as lesser beings.
When I was in Oz some people called dingos and kangaroos animals and some called them vermin. Some (white, Aussie) farmers said similar things about Aboriginals.
 

gohan

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Buuut, that is not modern liberalism. Modern liberalism is all about shutting down discussion and screaming insults, you just need to read the posts in the Brexit thread to see what it is all about. Watch the vid posted by myself and Gwadian, Pie says it better than I am capable of doing.

Not the majority obviously but as with the right any debate gets drowned out by the fanatical.
Yeah valid I guess. But both sides act like cunts when it comes to elections, the right more so because they're just as if not more aggressive, and often so factual incorrect that's it's impossible to argue against (we're talking the vocal ones as opposed to the whole) even worse in America because they believe in their sky fairy.

I mean look at trump. how the fuck would you have a rational discussion with that man? and yes not every trump supporter is racist but he is, so supporting him when he is so disgusting makes you guilty by association. I'm suprised that none of the indy cadidates got higher.... but then I guess it's the same as the general election, I voted green cos I thought miliband as his Blair labour were still right wing, just not as right as tories. Loads of friends thought the same but voted labour as lesser of 2 evils because any other vote is a waste.
 

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When I was in Oz some people called dingos and kangaroos animals and some called them vermin. Some (white, Aussie) farmers said similar things about Aboriginals.
A bit like David Cameron calling the migrants "swarms", like they're insects.
 

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Plenty of very angry libtards who preach love and acceptance for all, then get fighty when something they doesn't like happens.


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Trump in 2012 advocating protest and not accepting the result when he thought that Romney had won the popular vote but lost the electoral college.
 

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Would you actually be happy with Clinton in the Whitehouse?
I can guarantee you Trump will reach out to muslims, back down on 90% of his promises and just spend his time keeping things ticking over.
There seems to be a mass disconnection of common sense here...when has ANY politician stuck to campaign promises or rhetoric.
 

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Would you actually be happy with Clinton in the Whitehouse?
I can guarantee you Trump will reach out to muslims, back down on 90% of his promises and just spend his time keeping things ticking over.
There seems to be a mass disconnection of common sense here...when has ANY politician stuck to campaign promises or rhetoric.
I'm not sure how many people truely fear trump. But the fact he was voted in says that America is broken, large swaths of America agree with what he has said and want him to do the things he has promised. And that is frankly, fucking terrifying.
 

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Trump is unbalanced, that's where the problem lies. As soon as things don't go his way he throws his toys out of the pram. When has he even been known for "keeping things ticking over"?
 

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Would you actually be happy with Clinton in the Whitehouse?
I can guarantee you Trump will reach out to muslims, back down on 90% of his promises and just spend his time keeping things ticking over.
There seems to be a mass disconnection of common sense here...when has ANY politician stuck to campaign promises or rhetoric.

He has already indicated he is backing down on some of the healthcare pledges he made. ie dismantling Obamacare.

Link for those that need one.
Trump likes main Obamacare provisions 'very much' - BBC News
 

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He does whatever the last person he spoke to tells him to and he just had a big meeting with Obama...
 

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He appears to be changing his mind on most things he said during his campaign which isn't that surprising since it was all probably more about self promotion than winning.
 

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I see Hilary stumbled into some random walker in the hills and Bill took a picture...you may have seen it, obviously I 'm like, that's a bit unlikely.
Sure, it turned out the random woman has loads of photos with her and is on the campaign staff.
They just can't stop the bullshit can they.
 

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I'm not really proud of the British politicans so openly welcoming Trump as a President.

I mean, especially since they've criticised him in the path, I wish they'd say more like 'We wish him luck, so long as he clears up his personal life and extreme views on issues X Y Z B G H D G H'

I think Nicola Sturgeon got it right on this one.
 

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He has already indicated he is backing down on some of the healthcare pledges he made. ie dismantling Obamacare.

Link for those that need one.
Trump likes main Obamacare provisions 'very much' - BBC News

Not sure I get why people are upset at this? He's said he wants to keep the good stuff (can't discriminate against pre existing conditions, can put your kids under the same policy) and wants to get rid of the not so good stuff (the compulsory bit). would have thought that was a good thing, no?
 

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Not sure I get why people are upset at this? He's said he wants to keep the good stuff (can't discriminate against pre existing conditions, can put your kids under the same policy) and wants to get rid of the not so good stuff (the compulsory bit). would have thought that was a good thing, no?

The problem is with how its set up. You can't keep the good bits and take away the bad. They balance each other out. I think the insurance companies are calling it a death spiral... as your choice in coverage decreases, insurance companies get patients who are sicker and sicker, and suffer big financial losses. That forces them to increase prices, driving away healthy paying customers. Facing more losses, they raise the insurance costs again, causing more healthy people to leave, and on and on, until all that's left is super expensive policies and a small pool of unwell people.

The supposedly good parts of Obamacare is that insurance companies cant say no to an already sick patient. But why bother having insurance if you are healthy? You can always get insurance when you get sick. Too bad there wont be any insurance company left unless it's compulsory for healthy people to pay too.
 

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The problem is with how its set up. You can't keep the good bits and take away the bad. They balance each other out. I think the insurance companies are calling it a death spiral... as your choice in coverage decreases, insurance companies get patients who are sicker and sicker, and suffer big financial losses. That forces them to increase prices, driving away healthy paying customers. Facing more losses, they raise the insurance costs again, causing more healthy people to leave, and on and on, until all that's left is super expensive policies and a small pool of unwell people.

The supposedly good parts of Obamacare is that insurance companies cant say no to an already sick patient. But why bother having insurance if you are healthy? You can always get insurance when you get sick. Too bad there wont be any insurance company left unless it's compulsory for healthy people to pay too.
This.... economics 101
 

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I think the problem with any government run enterprise is entirely full of overpaid hangers on, hugely inflated prices and an army of consultants considering effect of healthcare on the Somalian tigers gay rights.
 

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I think he such a narcissist that he just wants the title of 'Mr President' but doesn't actually want the job. Just another job title he can tick off the list
 

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prices...healthy

You lost me there.

Healthcare should be free...full stop.

It might be ever so fashionable to bash the UK recently but we dick all over every other country when it comes to healthcare. It is a human right to get the very best healthcare available, regardless of status.

Our only failing is that we employ far too many clipboard wielders and don't pay nurses/doctors nearly enough.
 

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