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rynnor said:
If they arrest more people tonight where will they put them? London's police cells are full already?

Quite a few of them are in Bristol and South Wales. It has been a busy few days for me.
 

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Only a matter of time before our end joined in. Wolverhampton rioting... Makes me lol in a way. Apparently torching the Asda though? Pricks.
 

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1752: BBC reporters in Salford say looters are breaking into Bargain Booze and the Money Sho on Hankinson Way. A BBC cameraman has been assaulted.

Looks like its kicking off again tonight. Trouble in West Brom and a couple of other places as well.
 

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Lucky for us that most the Black Country is already a shithole. Won't notice the difference.
 

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Gangs of kids were in Northfield last night (about a mile from my house) mugging anybody stupid enough to walk through the place. All the coppers were in the city centre so they got away with it scott free. Reports of mass looting there now, hopefully they won't venture this way :S

Pictures of some of the looters from last night in Birmingham: http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/majoroperations/operationview/ The vast majority of them appear to be no more than 18 to me ... a sad indictment on our society that these kids feel their behaviour is acceptable/they have nothing to lose.
 

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So the scumbags are at it again. Still believe we are being too soft on them.

Wish Maggie was in power :) She would sort them out. After todays events I just feel that we live in a society governed by people that are afraid to do the right thing.
 

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Manchester as well looks like its picking up.
 

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Calm down, calm down! photoshoplooter

I've mellowed a bit in my anger, if we get a repeat of last night then we may need water cannons, aggressive tactics or even the army. However, there is not point risking further uprising by causing a death -which is where that route would end.

Also, it's clear from interviews with looters just how uneducated some of these people are, they will only get worse in the face of strong arm tactics now.

As for the army, hardline sentencing etc, giving the government more power over social networks and mobile networks; it's a slippery slope once we sign over power like that to the state.

Also for the comparisons with saudi; I'm bloody glad I don't live in a country that's anything like saudi. I value the personal freedoms I have here.
 

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Deebs said:
So the scumbags are at it again. Still believe we are being too soft on them.

Wish Maggie was in power :) She would sort them out.

Good grief. She would probably ok the water cannons sure enough, but she would insist they were full of school milk.
 

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Police numbers are pointless if they havent got the authority to use force. Why bother sticking 100 police infront of the youth if they just gonna watch them smash and steal things.

Hoping it not kicking off up here in scotland, was in a nice area just grabbing bits from tesco and as im leaving 4 cops cars (3 land rovers that looked like had 4 people in each included) came in, and the police helicopter was over the small town centre
 

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Salford and West Brom have trouble right now, in London there isn't the same feeling in the air (in the parts I've been too) as there was last night. I feel safer tonight -I'd be more worried if I was in an area that had not been hit yet, that had lots of shops.

Everyone town around here has closed early, people sent home, high police presence. That goes for Croydon, Wimbledon, Rose Hill, West Norwood, Thornton Heath.
 

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I can see the following happening:

16,000 Police on the streets, the scum take the night off.
The Met scale down the Police presence, they scum come back out.

They cannot sustain keeping 16,000 Police on the streets every night. Until they are dealt harsh justice the problem will not go away.
 

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Bullring getting looted to shit I hear. Fuckin hell
 

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Police numbers are pointless if they havent got the authority to use force. Why bother sticking 100 police infront of the youth if they just gonna watch them smash and steal things.

Hoping it not kicking off up here in scotland, was in a nice area just grabbing bits from tesco and as im leaving 4 cops cars (3 land rovers that looked like had 4 people in each included) came in, and the police helicopter was over the small town centre

The problem is the police are in a no win situation now, they will risk more anger if they go in too hard. Had they gone in hard in Tottenham then they would have probably nipped it in the bud. Once again the tabloid press have a lot to answer for with their reporting of the original shooting, lots of speculation.
 

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Anyone see that reporter on BBC news 24 just there? Set of traffic lights behind him, about 4 or 5 cars ran through a blatant red.
 

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if it was me i'd go out there with a water cannon... only i'd replace the water with fucking high strength glue so the bastards get stuck while trying to run away.
 

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Was listening to bbc london radio on the way home and a youth present at the trouble last night had similar views:

‪London Riots. (The BBC will never replay this. Send it out)‬‏ - YouTube

I don't agree with his insurrection views, but I do think he is right that something was coming. It's very us and them with youngsters in most parts of London.

Got as far as him mentioning Mark Duggan who had 'Brothers, Sisters, Parents' He neglected to mention that he also had a firearm.

Fucks sake, this is nothing to do with shooting an armed gangster, this is all to do with kids on a zero spend shopping spree, just cos they think they can get away with it.

There is going to be a backlash, and it's not going to come a moment too soon.

I work for a living, I pay my way, and I'm not a criminal. I have nothing to fear from the backlash, I can't wait to see it starting.

It's time decent folk, black, white, asian, whatever, got our country and our society back.
 

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Police confirm rubber bullets will be available to use for all officers tonight
 

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