To Hibs the lamest realm on the server...

[old.Miss]

*sigh*
You clearly don't know much of this game do you?

Originally posted by Treniel
Blux Ix.

lol miss only one of them is 50......your 50 right? or at least orange con to me...only 1 of them cons orange to me. Anyway i'm sure u just run in hit once run out mess hit again etc etc

1vs1 duels... And they usually started out as the minstrells insta shouting dd, dd, stun, mez - rest, repeat.
And I still won.
And btw, my mez might have a long range, but my shout dd has the same range as the minstrels shouts also, so that what you said, is not possible...

And how the hell to I do a hit and run to minstrel anyways??

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Uncle Sal
Karam.... you are an idiot.... maybe our classes in hibby are weak.... so what.... i still give any yellow con in RvR a nice fight even though im quite gimbed class... i will shoot your slow, stoopid, weak arsman to high heaven without a doubt

And... if you doubt it... lets have nice 1on1... i will even let you close to have one hit to 1-shot me as you said you will...

LOL, sorry what class are you? oh wait, doesnt matter, your a hib

HIB TANKS BEING THE BEST IN THE GAME!????????? you have GOT to be joking. I seriously cant tell weather i'm fighting a hib tank or not, they all look the same to me.

But seriously, you cant say they have the best tank, thats just silly. Sure they have the best casters, but no chance do they have the best tank. If anyone Mids probably have the best tanks, because they are a tank nation.

 

[Novamir]

Karam, show me what other pure tank class gets to have an insta heal every 30 mins.

How can an armsman with his l33t armour achieve a spec like this: (with bonuses) 50 blade/50 shield/50 spear/30 parry.. I get big 2H damage most needed on chain wearers (imo), slam + great guard and immunity to archers etc, and fast 1H weapons for runies/theurgs and general mage or assassin types

I would say a warrior is better than a hero but for the insta heal every 30 min, because they get to max out Hammer/Shield/Parry (with items) and of course get to use 2H hammers which just rocks

 

[Karam_gruul]

Sorry Novamir but i've never faught a challenging hib tank before. And saying that the Hero is a pure tank class is a contradiction in itself, If they get insta-heals they're not a pure tank class, they're a hybrid, like the Paladin.

Sure you can max out spear/shield/slash or whatever, but that doesnt mean your gonna out damage any polearm armsman.

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

lol Karam, you just have to live with it, heroes are the best tanks, no tank will win one one one againt even con hero if he stags. And yes, heroes are maintanks of hib, get same amount of hps as armsmen and warriors... to say heroes are no real tanks because they get instaheals is like saying clerics are no healers cause they get smite.

 

[old.Supreme]

And what about our only weapon- the stun? Im pretty sure alb smiteclerics have stunned me quite a few times too... ok... all our casters got it... its powerful yes... but without it we wouldnt stand any kinda change

Hmm just passed my mind, how have I survived all those trips to emain?

 

[Arthwyr]

balancing

In upcoming patches (whenever that may be) Alb armsmen get an insta heal and paladins get aoe root along with a DD spell and ofcourse the resistance chants. Atm i think polearm arms are very nice if they spec shield to 42 and slash/ trust to the hight 20s low 30s. No weapon can match the melee damage of a polearm but with the insta heal the damage of the polearm should be at least double that of the opponents.

Just wondering what mythic was thinking when they decided on abilitys for a paladin. As a hybrid (tank/healer) class we get none of the hybrid advantages from being a healer, only being able to rezz is nice, but we get the full hybrid penalty on the tank side: damag table of cleric, Less Hp, Much lower cap on Strenght and no ranged attack whatsoever.

ah well off to bed now :sleeping:

Arthwyr

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Artwyr, yeah Armsmen even get a "very high damage" style with polearm that no other tanks get (only assasins crit attack atm I think). Anyway, armsmen also get a realmabbillity that is a follow-up style to the lvl 50 very high damage one. That follow up style generates stun, ouch. After that patch armsmen will rule, but we still have not even 1.48..............

 

[Treniel]

i only just found out about the style changing from fumble to style and omg its gona rock

 

[<Harle>]

Re: balancing

Originally posted by Arthwyr
Just wondering what mythic was thinking when they decided on abilitys for a paladin. As a hybrid (tank/healer) class we get none of the hybrid advantages from being a healer, only being able to rezz is nice, but we get the full hybrid penalty on the tank side: damag table of cleric, Less Hp, Much lower cap on Strenght and no ranged attack whatsoever.

ah well off to bed now :sleeping:

Arthwyr

Dunno what game you are playing, but in my version a Paladin starts out as a fighter, so same starting-class as an Armsman/Mercenary, so should be same damage-table as them

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by Karam
Sorry Novamir but i've never faught a challenging hib tank before. And saying that the Hero is a pure tank class is a contradiction in itself, If they get insta-heals they're not a pure tank class, they're a hybrid, like the Paladin.

I guess you didn't bump into any of the decent hib tanks yet then, I can assure you if you see me you will be dead pretty soon after (or on the other hand I will be running like hell because you have 40 buddies behind you). Your name doesn't stand out as one of the polearms I've faced in emain, the only one that i seem to meet regularly is Treniel.

Sure you can max out spear/shield/slash or whatever, but that doesnt mean your gonna out damage any polearm armsman.

What a pathetic statement. a 50 thrust polearms does equal damage to me on yellow con chain wearers (400-500 per swing). Slash polearms is quite funny, they really did gimp their char. Crush polearms hurts the most vs. ME, but crush isnt the best choice for me. This is because the 'crucial' albion classes (cleric/minstrel) and of course all mid tank classes are weak to thrust.

No i won't outdamage a thrust polearms, we will make equal damage. However, for a thrust polearms tincan to make the same sort of damage as me, he must max out polearms + thrust. I need only max out Celtic Spear. Thus putting me a whole spec line of points better off.

A hero makes a better, more rounded tank, who can do the damage of a polearm with maxed LW or Spear, and keep parry at 2/3 whilst maxing two other lines (with bonuses). Yes, I have 50 spear, with SLAM, maxed 1h blades damage, and 30 parry. Oh and an insta heal. (Im being extremely generous when I neglect the insta heal in the equation because of plate's slighty higher abs value).

I suggest you go and do your homework, read some US boards and get in some more RvR experience before post ill informed rubbish.

 

[Treniel]

Heros are indeed a very good tank class but as slash polearm i do equal damage arround 400-500 a swing...its normally lower on oranges of course which is what u con...i think theres only one person on server thats lvl 50 slash pole and thats willis who never plays rvr much.

 

[tilde]

Polearm does most dmg, thrust-poles have the shortest spd that all. We got polearms with 6.0spd but in crush and gimped slash, Mythic have said that armsman+polearm makes the most dmg of all tanks - Heroes does much dmg too, so there's not really a big diffirence.

So far, heroes with LW have made most dmg on me - prolly crit but anyhow

 

[old.LandShark]

Harle..... mercenaries also start out as fighters, you telling me mercs have the same hp as armsmen?
Ho hum
Paladins are without doubt the single worst RvR class in the entire game, except possibly a soloing healer

 

[tilde]

Re: Re: balancing

Originally posted by Harle


Dunno what game you are playing, but in my version a Paladin starts out as a fighter, so same starting-class as an Armsman/Mercenary, so should be same damage-table as them

I wish my dear friend, but its not like that.

Armsman and Mercenarys are on the same dmg/hp-table and both can use ranged weapons.

Paladins gives up dmg and hp for our chants, who are useless in RvR - tho the dmg.buff is the only decent one in RvR.
Chants are good in PvE but sux in RvR (quick battles etc).

My str is capped at 163!? yes, sad but true - our primary skill is constitution(but our hp is approx 200-300hp less than an armsman's)

Our secondary stat is Piety, who is TOTALLY useless since we dont use power except for rez (who is lvl-based)

And our dmg is about 60-70% of what an armsman/merc does, so thats kinda sad too - but hey we can rez </sarcasm>

So, imho paladins need a fix.

And according to most ppl on US, heroes are the most lethal main-tank.

 

[<Harle>]

Originally posted by LandShark
Harle..... mercenaries also start out as fighters, you telling me mercs have the same hp as armsmen?
Ho hum
Paladins are without doubt the single worst RvR class in the entire game, except possibly a soloing healer

no, i was talking about damage-tables, not hit-points. Same damage-table means a Merc, Armsmen and Paladin with exact same weapon and exactly same lvl/spec/strength should do the same amount of dmg...

 

[Karam_gruul]

But Novamir, the fact remains, i dont recall being killed by a hib tank before. Hib casters with a bard next to them? sure... but hib tanks? dont make me laugh.

Thrust polearms are the least damaging polearm there is, I dont know about crush, but as Halberd (slash polearms) are just about the highest dmg polearm in albion, im guessing slash is the most damaging out of the three.

I mean Novamir, your lvl 50, Most lvl 50 MID tanks i know of, but i've never heard of you before, so you cant be making a great impact on rvr

The reason you probably havnt seen me around much, is because i dont rvr THAT much, i go there maybe once a week, on the weekend when theres big fights going on. I rarely solo there, because soloing normally means me v a group of 8 lvl 50 mids.

When i'm lvl 50 i'll be around more

 

[old.[BF]MaD]

at treniel :

lmao man :
this is the last time i say this : U SUCK
and everyone in alb hates yer guts
some might not say it in your face , but hey

- stop trying to give rvr strategies or ideas in any emain cg plz
- any cg u are ever in again , i am not
- wtf are u whining to hibbies about ? -> i do thinku got owned once too many



to miss : alpha isnt playing , gromit is playing alpha , and alpha is 49

duel a lvl 50 minstrel that knows what he s doing , and i m sorry but u dont stand a chance ....
(me , dherkova, insurrextion or jazhara are the only ones lvl 50 , i think )


plz dont post how u "think" u can own lvl 50 minstrels when u havent named one

 

[c0ngo]

Re: Re: Re: balancing

Originally posted by tilde

My str is capped at 163!? yes, sad but true - our primary skill is constitution(but our hp is approx 200-300hp less than an armsman's)

eeek thats way worse than I thought

note 2 self, stop forgetting to buff Tilde

 

[Eleasias]

I believe there has been a few threads about Novamir owning the shit out of Albs, only place I remember you from Karam is that you missed twice in a row, and you're a yellow con ^^

 

[old.Ozaric]

the powah of playing briton over highlander ), but i agree paladins need to get buffed but then again if they do tilde will never be able to see it (thx goa)

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Eleasias
I believe there has been a few threads about Novamir owning the shit out of Albs

Wuren has hit me way harder than any other tank in the game, Novamir included.

 

[Eleasias]

Originally posted by C0ngo


Wuren has hit me way harder than any other tank in the game, Novamir included.

And? Only means Wuren owns your ass even harder than Nova ;D

 

[old.DachraK]

Naah....Wardens are best tanks of the game :uhoh:

 

[Karam_gruul]

Originally posted by Eleasias
I believe there has been a few threads about Novamir owning the shit out of Albs, only place I remember you from Karam is that you missed twice in a row, and you're a yellow con ^^

lol, maybe i missed, happens from time to time. not sure about missing TWICE in a row tho, thats a bit odd. just thank your lucky stars a didnt hit ye

 

[cougar-]

DachraK is the best tank yes. NERF HIM

 

[old.DachraK]

Except for Grond ofcourse

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Eleasias
And? Only means Wuren owns your ass even harder than Nova ;D

Not really 1v1 I'd kill both easy, same as any other tank.

I've only ever been hit by them when outnumbered or they'd never have got near me

 

[old.Hienrich]

Hmmmm, not raining on your paradeNovamir, but didnt i solo you about 2 or so weeks ago when u were camping the alb TK?

There was you standing behide a tree trying to kill ppl, then i came running up and slash, bang, wollop, your down to around 20%, then, you run off towards the alb keep and get killed and leave me with hardly no rps <cries>

i must admite it was a close fight, but i still pretty much given you a good licking , and i am 2hand paladin, we are ment to be rubbish at RvR, and yet i still pretty much gave you a run for your money.

As for for your taking on a fully spec polearms, if i can nearly kill you, then i think a pole-armsmen might be able to kill u tad better than us pallys

btw Tilde, Arthwyr and another other pally moaning about how pants we are, we aint were just different, and when 1.48 come, look out for our New strength/hitpoints, spell resisted chant and our New........................Damage


cya you all on the battle fields, and good luck

Live, Drink and be Merry for tomorrow we die!!!!

 

[tilde]

do we get more str Heinrich? me lieks if so