To Hibs the lamest realm on the server...

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Arthwyr

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bah

This is what happens if you post - have lunch - post again without refreshing.
Don't see whats hilarious btw. 10 albs hold the line and get ganked by 2 to 5 CC/Guards and 20+ hibs with mezz/ranged attacks and the low cone left overs ofthe albs get run over by the guards. personaly i like em, the guards that is, they break mezz so i can at least hit something.

Arthwyr
 
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Blue Ix

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Sigh, you're just pointing out what I thought was obvious - the two classes aren't equal in any way and shouldn't be thought of as such. Same goes for most other classes, you can't really compare them cross-realms.

Originally posted by Karam
Well what does a bard get.. ???? mez??? i've never seen a bard do anything other than mez before. As someone else said, they're a support char, which basically means, they run in, mez everyone, then a hib casters comes in and nukes them all.

Do Bards even have any attack styles? i really have never seen one.
 
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Blue Ix

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Re: bah

Try and work as a realm for once, might get you through an attack of three-five yellow/orange cons in less than five minutes.

Originally posted by Arthwyr
This is what happens if you post - have lunch - post again without refreshing.
Don't see whats hilarious btw. 10 albs hold the line and get ganked by 2 to 5 CC/Guards and 20+ hibs with mezz/ranged attacks and the low cone left overs ofthe albs get run over by the guards. personaly i like em, the guards that is, they break mezz so i can at least hit something.

Arthwyr
 
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Karam_gruul

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Originally posted by Blue Ix
Sigh, you're just pointing out what I thought was obvious - the two classes aren't equal in any way and shouldn't be thought of as such. Same goes for most other classes, you can't really compare them cross-realms.


<slaps head>

thats exactly my point lol. Bard is the equivilant class to a minstrel isnt it? its not like a druid is gonna be the equivilant to a minstrel. Try another example, (im not sure which is a hib tank but) what about hero/champion v an armsman/paladin? wouldnt stand a chance.

its just proof to show Hib are the weakest realm.
 
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Blue Ix

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It's about fifty times as deep as you're trying to make it, mythic tried to balance realms, not classes. If they had done it class by class, for each realm, this game would have been like chess where everyone has got the same units - what would be the point of chosing one realm over another then (besides picking albion because mythic put more work into forming their landscapes)?

Originally posted by Karam
<slaps head>

thats exactly my point lol. Bard is the equivilant class to a minstrel isnt it? its not like a druid is gonna be the equivilant to a minstrel. Try another example, (im not sure which is a hib tank but) what about hero/champion v an armsman/paladin? wouldnt stand a chance.

its just proof to show Hib are the weakest realm.
 
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Karam_gruul

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Well exactly... Hib are the weaker REALM over all. Thats a fact.
 
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Blue Ix

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For doing what? I assume you mean RvR. Maybe we are. Maybe it's because we need so many pure support classes for each team while doing PvE, which we btw (can) do faster than both albion and midgard. Maybe it's because when we're done with PvE we don't get two-three uber RvR-chars coming out of each team (two clerics and a minstrel, or whatever), instead we get three tanks, a warden, a druid, a bard and two pbae casters.
Hibernia has got it's good RvR chars too, only they don't get to gain those levels as fast as they would like.

Originally posted by Karam
Well exactly... Hib are the weaker REALM over all. Thats a fact.
 
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Karam_gruul

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Originally posted by Blue Ix
Maybe it's because we need so many pure support classes for each team while doing PvE, which we btw (can) do faster than both albion and midgard.


Well, Hib have the lowest volume of lvl 50's on excalibur. So obviously they arent faster than alb and midgard at pve... Midgard are evidently the fastest, they had lvl 40's within the first week lol.
 
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Blue Ix

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A team of eight dedicated hibs will get to 50 before a team of 8 dedicated albs or mids - from a fresh start with no boosts, counting in that all teams need to know what they are doing.

Originally posted by Karam


Well, Hib have the lowest volume of lvl 50's on excalibur. So obviously they arent faster than alb and midgard at pve... Midgard are evidently the fastest, they had lvl 40's within the first week lol.
 
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Eleasias

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Gotta agree with Blue, if there was a dedicated team in Hib with just the classes I wanted, it would be level 50 in less than two weeks. Only thing minstrels and bards have in common is that they play instruments and nothing more, totally different classes. And if you are really really so incompetent you cant kill those yellow/blue guard patrols with your group of 10+ lvl 50's I see in RvR each night, lol :> and FYI, archers are not supposed to kill armsmen. And if we're the weaker realm, why do we hand you your ass each night in RvR? ;>
 
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old.Trapp|Uberleech

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Two albion clowns in the same thread, Treniel and Karam!

I'm sure you're fellow albions are proud of you two.
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old.Arya

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Originally posted by Karam

Try another example, (im not sure which is a hib tank but) what about hero/champion v an armsman/paladin? wouldnt stand a chance.

its just proof to show Hib are the weakest realm.

I hope you meet Wuren soon :p
 
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Eleasias

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Karam, it's widely agreed that Hero is the best tank in game.
 
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old.Kainz

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lol, Karam, hope I meet you soon. Your paladins are nothing compared to hero's. Armsmen come close though.
 
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Salazar

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Karam.... you are an idiot.... maybe our classes in hibby are weak.... so what.... i still give any yellow con in RvR a nice fight even though im quite gimbed class... i will shoot your slow, stoopid, weak arsman to high heaven without a doubt :clap:

And... if you doubt it... lets have nice 1on1... i will even let you close to have one hit to 1-shot me as you said you will...
 
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Arthwyr

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eeeek

Well duh ofcourse a Hero is a better tank then the hybrid class Gimpadin. You dont compare a hero to a warden either when it comes to damage taking and damage output. Paladins are on the same damage output as clerics when in comes to melee. As for heros being better tanks as the arms ... dont know used to play a hero in the beta (as well as a eldritch a warden and a ranger ) and to be honest it wasn't that impressive in PvE can't tell about RvR though as I dit not participate in it much in the beta days.
After a few patches paladins should be better adapted for RvR as i am not mistaking we are getting more HPs, AoE root and a DD spell. For now we just like to be the rezzers who rezz where no cleric can go.

As for killing patrols I haven't been killed by a patrol since level 45 unless there were several hibs charging behind em healing the guards or mezzing our clerics. And 10+ lvl 50s not being able to kill blue/yellow guards plz... we would not be lvl 50 in the first place if we werent able to kill some blue/yellow AI mobs. Let me tell you this most of the times alb groups are composed of 1 healer 6 tanks and a mins. At the times when we do have a mezzer in the group and 2 healers and a mins you hibbies end up eating dirt unless you got 3 times the numbers. Setting up a guild keeps me out of RvR alot lately but last time i had a "real" team in emain our group routed - killed some - rerouted killed some force that initialy had 3 times our numbers. Lucky for us albs the other realms made us realise that mezz is crucial in RvR and in time we will have suffcient mezzers to return the favor. You should be glad the alb tank army still comes to emain to feed you with RPs

Life of an alb tank
-Buy horse ticket ludlow-sauvage
-Buy emain medallion of passage
-Sit on Tp pad listening to albs whining about the "fucking"(not my words) mezz/stunn
-group with fellow tanks
-hook up with a minstrel and if lucky a cleric
-Speed to alb wall after killign a few mid tp campers (hibs rarely do that in emain :clap: )
-worry how long it will take to get mezzed/ganked when you get to the wall
-form up at the wall
-watch how the 10% casters try to slug it out with the 70% casters/archers on the oher side of the wall (wich they can't)
-See the gates open shortly followed by a few mezz attempts wich eventualy will stick
-get nuked - sniped - remezzed - nuked - rooted and eventualy hit (if your still allive by that time then wich is a possiblity if you are level 50) by the hib frog heads
-complain some more about the fucking (again not my choice of words) mezz/nukes/stuns/numbers of the hibs (or mids but mostly hibs) in group chat
- /release
-Buy horse ticket ludlow-sauvage
- ... repeat this X times ( x to be the number where you get fed up )

Each teleport less and less alb tanks port depening on each persons value to corespond with X

Then again some of us are trying to change things for the better so all can enjoy RvR more. So plz stop the blah blah ... albs are not skilled. Mezz is an important factor in RvR, fact is albs have less mezzers atm, this willl be corrected in the future. I am still gonna go to emain now matter what though because I still want to dance on crim. :p

:clap: :clap: :clap:
C u on the battlefield

Arthwyr pendragon
Gimpadin
GM <Exiled>

PS: Be carefull what you wish for, you just might get it.
 
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Arthwyr

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damn

EUh did i write all that :rolleyes:

Sorry for the long post guys;)
 
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old.Miss

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:sleeping: lol Karam...

Originally posted by Karam
Well what does a bard get.. ???? mez??? i've never seen a bard do anything other than mez before. As someone else said, they're a support char, which basically means, they run in, mez everyone, then a hib casters comes in and nukes them all.

Do Bards even have any attack styles? i really have never seen one.

Originally posted by Karam



thats exactly my point lol. Bard is the equivilant class to a minstrel isnt it?

its just proof to show Hib are the weakest realm.


Hmm, there are just many classes I have soloed, and I prefer soling alot.

But lets see, high lvl Minstrels that I have soloed...
Miss Vs Combat -> Miss
Miss Vs Alpha -> Miss
Miss Vs Krane -> Miss

There are alot many more, but those are the ones I can remember now off the top of my head... All con yellow, think they are all lvl 50...

And for you Karman, I'll be happy to kill you at any time, and all you can do is cry because a support class nailed ya to the floor... /em equipts drums, playes end song, sprints around and DD's Karman to death. /point /laugh
 
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Khefru

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This post is hilarious.

1. Albs, stop complaining about mezz, coz everytime I RvR I end up mezzed/rooted/stunned contantly, then ganked by about 10 Alb tanks. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no Hib classes with insta stun either.

2. I was on the small hill in front of Crim at the end of the valley tonight. We Hibs were slightly outnumbered by the Albs and 3 guards attcked the albs. Yes, thats right 3!!!! 30 Albs turned their backs to us and ran. Naturally, we followed and chased and killed the entire Alb armay apart from a few lucky souls who made to to their TK. As usual though, u kill one and 20 replace him, u kill 20 and 200 replace them.

3. Heros may not be the best tanks in the game, but i have fought orange con Armsmen and given them a good fight. I've never managed to actually have a good fight with a yellow con Armsman as they always run when they see me. Thats sort of typical of the zergs cowardise.

4. I feel sorry for the decent Alb players on Excal as they will always be labeled as lamers due to actions of the other 90% of morons who play there and post on here.
 
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Treniel

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Blux Ix.

FYI Arthwyr dropping through the wall can only happen if you are lagged, if you have found another way to do it, without the lag, then I am sure everyone is interested to hear about it, guess it would take considerable practise.

ah so the 10 hibs or so that were in the wall on mallus and tildes screenshots all lagged there? ye sure :) and its happend more than once u seen any other realm do it? i ain't.

#2: die from yellow/orange con guards
It's quite fun to see actually, and it doesn't happen when mids get too close (if they ever actually get out to do some rvr) - they just kill the guards in a heartbeat and are back to killing hibs right away. Somehow you albs all manage to die to a single patrol every time, no matter how many you are or what levels you are.

the only reason we die to a patrol is because u mess us so max 3 people can take them at a time...and u help them killing us

:rolleyes:

Edyw

Move RvR to Hadrian Wall. We cant no longer hide in Dun Crim .

hah u may have a long run but at least u can get there safely there is no really safe route threw pennines :/

Hibs in general (Trapp listen to this)

Do you really think many albs care what you think of us? we're enemys we are meant to dislike each other?! not alley ourselves...oh wait u do that don't you?

lol miss only one of them is 50......your 50 right? or at least orange con to me...only 1 of them cons orange to me. Anyway i'm sure u just run in hit once run out mess hit again etc etc

Kherfu (jesus where u get that name from)

The only tanks i've met in RvR that give me a good 1v1 duel are the ones which turn into stags...or ones with hammers cus they hrut :( + of course a lvl 50, and the reason all the albs probably ran was because the hibs followed gaurds...since when does 1 alb even if 50 stand a chance against 3 gaurds...thats what would happen u would get a bard or eldritch or whatever classes mess..mess us all come in kill us 5 vs 1 with gaurd help not hard..

and btw we can't do anything like this in Hadrians if we rvr'd there...the nearest keep to the walls is a good 5-10min walk takes u what 2min? max
 
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old.Trapp|Uberleech

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Re: eeeek

Artwyr, I liked your post and agree on most things. Alb lack mezzers atm, bards always mez you lot and druids aoe root. It is an important factor like you say, so get more of them sorcs to high levels. And now when we have a bunch of bards, wouldn't we be stupid if we didn't use their mezzes. Should bards just say

-oh well enough mezzing for today I'll just concentrate on playing my drums and carefully watching my tells just in case someone wants a rez.

Two things I don't agree on, heroes have changed since you played beta, it's spelled moose. enough said.

Second thing
Originally posted by Arthwyr
-See the gates open shortly followed by a few mezz attempts wich eventualy will stick
-get nuked - sniped - remezzed - nuked - rooted and eventualy hit.

it's not possible to mez someone that is below, what is it 80% hp?
so you can't do your mez-nuke-snipe-remez chain, would have been nice though
 
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c0ngo

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Originally posted by Miss

But lets see, high lvl Minstrels that I have soloed...
Miss Vs Combat -> Miss
Miss Vs Alpha -> Miss
Miss Vs Krane -> Miss

There are alot many more, but those are the ones I can remember now off the top of my head... All con yellow, think they are all lvl 50...


Errr no.

Only Alph is lvl 50 I think and he's being played by a lvl50 Cleric who's still quite new at playing a Minst.

You might know him better as Gromit :p
 
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old.Trapp|Uberleech

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Originally posted by Treniel

Hibs in general (Trapp listen to this)

Do you really think many albs care what you think of us? we're enemys we are meant to dislike each other?! not alley ourselves...oh wait u do that don't you?
[/QUOTE

If albs in general care about what we hibs think, I don't know, but it is pretty obvious that YOU care about what us hibs(me) think, otherwise you wouldn't have written this, you wouldn't even have given it a second thought lmao

cya clown
 
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Herbal Remedy

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lo miss
/em kiss
/em curstey

always fun battles we have nice 1k rps :D but cut down on the blue sphere nukes they hurt my eyes
 
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Feldegast

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Tren U are sooo stupid (yes I am drunk but I mean it still) ;)

U can ONLY fall through the wall with massive lag (atleast to my knowledge, and all those I've talked to)

For the3 guards, we are on our home turf, wich naturally gives us some advantages, what the hell do you think the keeps are there for, tea parties?!!

Tanks that turns into stags (m00se as we like to call them) are Heroes/Heroines (no female morphs tho :/ )

And sure we can move the RvR to hadrians, rvr atm is for 45+ (mostly) anyways so the mobs there aint a prob. But as Emain is a easier frontier to play in all seems happy with staying there.

This drunken bard is going to sleep!
 
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Herbal Remedy

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WHAT!!! no tea parties at crim damn thats why us albs keep trying to get in we all luv a nice cuppa and some cake
 
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Feldegast

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Yeah but we've had so many that we need to restock on tea, gonna take a while tho :( (hence the no teaparties part) ;)

sorry
 
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Treniel

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Nice attempt at a quote trapp :rolleyes:


And sure we can move the RvR to hadrians, rvr atm is for 45+ (mostly) anyways so the mobs there aint a prob. But as Emain is a easier frontier to play in all seems happy with staying there.

45+ not a prob? lol i wish...u really think every single alb going to hadrians if we rvr there is gona be in a full group? hah all it takes is one little mistake to pull great brown drake or sumthing else and a disorganised army will die...the 2 babies will probs go after lower lvls and the big fecker still cons red at 50 i think..there is nothing like that in emain hardest mob i seen is that big thingy near the lake or sum of the badgers but nobody rvrs round there
 
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old.Trapp|Uberleech

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Originally posted by Treniel
Nice attempt at a quote trapp :rolleyes:

Nice attempt of trying to get to me when you have nothing else to say lmao
 

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