THX god for zergs!!

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boobi playmobil

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maybe

the reason albion lose/whine/zerg a lot is the fact that the realm is, probably on most servers, populated mainly by younger people?

At least its in my limited experience a fact that there are far less older players in albion compared to the other realms, and unlike FPS-games being 12 years old isnt a big advantage. in fact, its more of a disadvantage lacking experience and patience etc.

The myth about arthur and the knights of the round table probably attract mainly younger people, so blame mythic :) .
 
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Garbannoch Nox

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Originally posted by parzi
so, you consider yourself skilled, did not very well on other realms, but it makes you laugh when its said that np and jh know how to play ?

mkkkkayyyyyyyy
sure mids a tad easyer atm etc, i still bet np and jh would kick your oh so skilled ass in any realm, as imo teamplay and having played together alot is one of the important parts. i can see that whenever we got a mixed nolby/pandora and maybe some others grp with all good players in it, this works ok ofc, but still its not as good as a guildgrp of one of the guilds.


but your right with that its just a game, and if you would want to proove anything and be 1337 you would surely not roll a savage as you will get zero respect :p

btw this alb is sooooo hard mode crap annoys me a bit, as 90% of my guild = renaissance dartmoor alb and they did very well there. they also say mid is a bit easyer, but that they miss their ra's :p

well tbh you can't compare NP and JH really:
- NP always managed to setup good groups (at least since i started RvRing)
- if we fight against NP their tanks dont just run to a mocing caster and hope that a) they can wtfpwn it in 1 swing or b) get enough spreadheals to survive. With all respect to JH - their usual tactic is to pick a caster and hope that he insta dies (which i have to admit works quite often with 2-3 savages) and they win - or they die due to moc pb...
- NP will still be a damn good group even if they nerf savages - JH is a guild built around a single class...
- no offence to JH btw - i just think that NP's play style is better

well, earned RPs say nothing and the names will change again (only some albs missing tbh): you dont know how much time people play, you dont know how they get the rps: i can make 400k+ rps per week if i want and still lose every single fight against NP/JH.
 
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noaim

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Originally posted by Aussie-
hmm maybe , but there is no 1 else that geeks as much as NP&JH xD

Oh, i know someone that geeked himself up alot worse than any of JH or NP by stealing lewt from his own realmmates raid xD
 
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hotrat

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Originally posted by Pandemic
eh ? how ? it states so in the game manual on pages 51 and 52 not quite sure how that proves me wrong. maybe you should learn to read mate ?
If the manual had all the rules from when it was released hardly any of it would be correct the game has changed so much since then. For example I think it says somewhere that a theurgist is meant to be the siege specialist class when the only ability they get vs keeps is siegebolt which does the same damage as 2 swings from a ram

making of what was called a "gimped class" (minstrels) a real monster killing machine.
You can do this to any class, all you gotta do is buff them.

just put up the question, who should win if you could make a copy of your grp and paste it as an fg in each realm
Someone from NP needs to answer this really but I say:

np [alb] vs np [mid] with ras up: Hardest one, could go either way, would definately be a long fight (and fun to watch :) )
np [alb] vs np [hib] with ras up: Hib
np [hib] vs np [mid] with ras up: Mid

np [alb] vs np [mid] no ras: Mid
np [alb] vs np [hib] no ras: Alb
np [hib] vs np [mid] no ras: Mid

This is assuming they play 3 merc, 1 pala, 1 sorc, 1 mins, 2 clerics | 2 savage, 1 warrior, 1 skald, 1 shaman, 3 healers | 2 druids, 1 warden, 1 bard, 2 elds, 2 hero's.

NP will still be a damn good group even if they nerf savages - JH is a guild built around a single class...
Agreed, JH are a FotM guild and they dont deny it :)
 
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old.anubis

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hotrat, soon forum deity?
with such a strong whine i thought you were one already ^^
 
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hotrat

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Originally posted by old.anubis
hotrat, soon forum deity?
with such a strong whine i thought you were one already ^^
Where is the whine in my post?
Why do you always flame me? :(
 
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old.anubis

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Originally posted by hotrat
Where is the whine in my post?
Why do you always flame me? :(

i mean in every goddam topic there's your post concerning mids and albs, how gimped you are and how overpowered mid is
been killed by alb zerg zillion times today, do i whine about it? no, i just play. tomorrow we will show you ^^
i hope i will be less drunk and will be able to press that goddam WIN button you all talking about
 
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hotrat

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Originally posted by old.anubis
i mean in every goddam topic there's your post concerning mids and albs, how gimped you are and how overpowered mid is
been killed by alb zerg zillion times today, do i whine about it? no, i just play. tomorrow we will show you ^^
i hope i will be less drunk and will be able to press that goddam WIN button you all talking about
Ah I see, well stating that I think mid has more powerful classes than alb is a opinion not a whine. I will admit I whined about savage damage a few times in the past but who (in hib/alb) hasn't?
I never whine about zergs on BW, I save that for mirc :D
 
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Lessurl

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Originally posted by Forau
You mean when the 3 active players NP had were Zzang, Cuteypie and Ingrid? We only made a comeback last friday, cut us some slack :)


No, get your finger out!! :p
 
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ingrid

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and about this nerf savage crap now press the little buton beside excalibur, is there just as many mids in top rp gainers there?

whouldnt think so. tbh i see albs at top there...

i belive all this fotm in mid is a counterreaction to albs zerging, to be able to beat 3 FG semi AFKing albs mids has 2 optimize this much it realy sadns the mood on the realm but it makes us survive. and still i belive there are fotm grps at prydwen 2. just that they dont show that well in the rp gainers. may it not just be albs having issues learning to play due to to much zerging?

somethings just makes you wounder when you check the skill tables think of the dmg output from albs and think what u can do with it, eventualy u will come up with the conclusion damn ALBs realy aint gimped!


as it is in my eyes a hib grp is the one drawing the shortest stick today belive most hibs thinks interrupts is just so ghey.

anyways filip next time u fight try to use the minstrel as ur supposed to. (not fight melee but to abort seers when fighting mids) and woups if everyone just tried to learn what their class was for, maybe we whould see more of those albs in the topscores, let us all hope, and NERF THAT ZERG!


hmmm now i realy should shutup before i drag more hatred towardsme. POOF
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by Pandemic
eh ? how ? it states so in the game manual on pages 51 and 52 not quite sure how that proves me wrong. maybe you should learn to read mate ?
Just goes to show that you do NOT read the replies to your own posts. I will take the liberty to quote Pin from the Savages thread:
Originally posted by Pin
No actually, it does not.

Maybe you are referring to this:

Races of Midgard
The Norse inhabitants of Midgard are a hardy mix of human and creature, but all are rough, tough, and love battle. As such, the Norse are the best fighters, but have the weakest magic, which is mostly limited to the priests of their different gods.
And this paragraph is referring to Midgard's races, not classes. It means that you have the race with the highest Strength, the highest Constitution, but lack one with a high casting stat (all 60 base Piety).

So yes, if you take a Troll, Firbolg and Highlander and put them all in the same class, the Troll will hit hardest, etc, etc.
In the game manual it says races, not classes. Q.E.D.
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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Originally posted by ingrid
and about this nerf savage crap now press the little buton beside excalibur, is there just as many mids in top rp gainers there?

whouldnt think so. tbh i see albs at top there...


Strange, Duskwave shows me a top 20 that holds 16 Mids, 2 Hibs and 2 Albs.
Infact, the whole top 10 is Mids.

But, keep living in your little fantasy world where everything is balanced, and you own cause of your elite skills etc.

Hibs and Albs will meanwhile think that Mids are overpowered.

Have a nice day.
Regards, Glottis
 
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witte-

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Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Strange, Duskwave shows me a top 20

lol 1 alb in it and its a scout xD

I only see 3 guilds doing well against mids / hibs and that's FC , GoL and BF
and yes savage's and infils are overpowered atm and so on blabla ... but now a other story saw 2 things last week from some random albs ...

1 : I'm at amg some alb grp around there and suddenly 2 from the group starts a duel with eachother , 5 sec later fg mids came all the albs was watching to the duel instead of watching for mids / hibs .. so they got killed, played :rolleyes:

2 : was omw to mmg I'm at dcx and I see a fg albs not moving so nothing special there I think .. fg hibs spotted the albs and started to fight, I'm watching the fight and all albs got killed saw only 2 albs moving during that fight then I see 5min later in the cg givf rezz at dcx some where afk .. lol .


Now I just wanne know why some dudes go afk or start a duel infront of amg ;|
 
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piggeman

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Originally posted by old.Filip
THX god for zergs!!
Btw ... doesn't anyone know what THX mean?

Thanks god for zergs!! doesn't sound right, does it?
 
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-RG-Jaond

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Originally posted by witte-
lol 1 alb in it and its a scout xD

I only see 3 guilds doing well against mids / hibs and that's FC , GoL and BF
and yes savage's and infils are overpowered atm and so on blabla ... but now a other story saw 2 things last week from some random albs ...

1 : I'm at amg some alb grp around there and suddenly 2 from the group starts a duel with eachother , 5 sec later fg mids came all the albs was watching to the duel instead of watching for mids / hibs .. so they got killed, played :rolleyes:

2 : was omw to mmg I'm at dcx and I see a fg albs not moving so nothing special there I think .. fg hibs spotted the albs and started to fight, I'm watching the fight and all albs got killed saw only 2 albs moving during that fight then I see 5min later in the cg givf rezz at dcx some where afk .. lol .


Now I just wanne know why some dudes go afk or start a duel infront of amg ;|

Haha strong alb rvr groups

Alb/exc i ett nötskal :)
 
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Vim

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Mid is losing population @ US because almost everyone rolled Savage. Except those who have Healer/Skald/Shammie. Now majority of Savages are not playing because of "nerfs" (Don't give me shit kthx, Savages are still very powerful after 1.65. They don't have insta interrupt, But so don't any other class with TANK RA's have.. And they do bit less damage, but still very nicely. Buffs are other issue, Now you actually gotta THINK how to use them, not just fire Evade/Dama/Resistbuffs all at once)

When 1.65 Sava nerf came out while reading VNBoards for 5 mins i think i counted about 30 "ffs if this goes live i /cancel my account" and 5 "I already deleted my savage". Way to be retarded. Same was with Zerkers (Ok, zerkers DID get quite bad NERF, yes nerf not balance, but i can't say same from Savas). Problem seems to be that people just roll newest FOTM and then quit playing when it gets nerf.

And yes, im leveling a Pierce BM. But not because it's "FOTM", simply because i've always wanted a Light Tank and TW effect = teh sekzay :p One day this game will be Dark Ages of Cast Alot, and i won't be rolling Mana Eld/Mana Chanter / Dark/RC RM then..
 
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Hedek

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Originally posted by Vim
When 1.65 Sava nerf came out while reading VNBoards for 5 mins i think i counted about 30 "ffs if this goes live i /cancel my account" and 5 "I already deleted my savage".

Umh... people who post on VNBoards don't represent the whole US community, they're maybe 200 to 500 when actual players are more than 20k every evening. With that said, I also heard when 1.62 came out many zerk threatening they'd cancel their account, but that didn't happen - or not in huge numbers -, Mythic learnt that nerfing a class doesn't mean losing costumers but them rerolling another class and thus going again through the leveling process and therefore playing more = paying more.

I can't tell why Midgard population is so low on US servers, but to me the simpliest explanation is that DAoC players, like mobs, BaF ;) Yep they "bring a friend" meaning if one player started on that realm/server his friends will join the same realm/server and once they've had lvl 20+ chars they'll be reluctant to switch, added to the fact Albion is the most chosen 1st realm.

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About someone saying that the reason why albion is losing is because it's filled with younger players. Well indeed, when someone starts the game for the first time, the majority choose Alb as first realm ever (including me). Long (when I was RvRing with my mid and hib chars before having a lvl 50 alb) I've also thought that "yeah if you Alb suck it's because you don't know how to play, shut up, stop whining and learn to play". But then I came to Excalibur, leveled to 50, met very good players, RvRed myself and realised how RvRing on Albion was more difficult.

Excalibur is probably one of the few server where Albion has a few guilds full of skilled players (when comparing to Ys/Broc/Orcanie where all albs do is zerging, you'll never see FC-like guilds there running around as 1 fg, and actually it's funny when you run as 1 fg mid and rip through 3 fg of RR2-4 albs ;-)
 
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sorusi

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Originally posted by hotrat
If the manual had all the rules from when it was released hardly any of it would be correct the game has changed so much since then. For example I think it says somewhere that a theurgist is meant to be the siege specialist class when the only ability they get vs keeps is siegebolt which does the same damage as 2 swings from a ram

You can do this to any class, all you gotta do is buff them.

Someone from NP needs to answer this really but I say:

np [alb] vs np [mid] with ras up: Hardest one, could go either way, would definately be a long fight (and fun to watch :) )
np [alb] vs np [hib] with ras up: Hib
np [hib] vs np [mid] with ras up: Mid

np [alb] vs np [mid] no ras: Mid
np [alb] vs np [hib] no ras: Alb
np [hib] vs np [mid] no ras: Mid

This is assuming they play 3 merc, 1 pala, 1 sorc, 1 mins, 2 clerics | 2 savage, 1 warrior, 1 skald, 1 shaman, 3 healers | 2 druids, 1 warden, 1 bard, 2 elds, 2 hero's.

Agreed, JH are a FotM guild and they dont deny it :)

that is a gimp hibb grp..

2 mana chantes, 1 nurture druid, 1 nature druid, 1 bard, 1 s/s hero, 1 void eld, 1 mana eld
 
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sorusi

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Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Strange, Duskwave shows me a top 20 that holds 16 Mids, 2 Hibs and 2 Albs.
Infact, the whole top 10 is Mids.

But, keep living in your little fantasy world where everything is balanced, and you own cause of your elite skills etc.

Hibs and Albs will meanwhile think that Mids are overpowered.

Have a nice day.
Regards, Glottis

rps is also determined to how much you play, and lately i cant say ive seen hibb/alb rvr guilds that active in rvr... its basicly just alb zerg and a few hibb guilds
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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Originally posted by sorusi
rps is also determined to how much you play, and lately i cant say ive seen hibb/alb rvr guilds that active in rvr... its basicly just alb zerg and a few hibb guilds

I would agree, just doubt that Mid has people who can play rvr 300% more than the best/most active Alb players.
But offcourse, would be nice to blaim getting 350k rp on more active players, instead of overpowered classes.
Regards, Glottis
 
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1 Medde Hijani Midgard 2,596,575 408,074 50 Nolby Pride Healer Norseman
2 Locuz Midgard 3,990,512 400,642 50 Jack Herer Savage Kobold
3 Elixir Midgard 1,815,701 388,065 50 Deeply Disturbed Healer Norseman
4 Mumin Midgard 4,096,054 355,259 50 Jack Herer Savage Kobold
5 Halsbrann Midgard 4,788,594 352,581 50 Nolby Pride Shaman Kobold
6 Shayana Midgard 1,637,826 351,296 50 Pandora Healer Dwarf
7 Tivook OneManArmy Midgard 3,726,701 342,539 50 Nolby Pride Skald Troll
8 Stubbe DAHIR Midgard 6,621,669 339,622 50 Nolby Pride Healer Dwarf
9 Ingrid AttackFlata Midgard 1,850,302 333,401 50 Jack Herer Healer Norseman
10 Marita Midgard 3,344,875 317,604 50 Nolby Pride Healer Norseman
11 Ouroborus Midgard 1,968,476 315,676 50 Jack Herer Shaman Kobold
12 Zzang Jjang Midgard 5,691,939 314,807 50 Nolby Pride Berserker Troll
13 Aussie Albion 5,430,881 301,310 50 Guardians of Light Scout Briton


better then any other alb or hib


i'm so uber xD
 
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old.anubis

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top 10 = 6 healers o_O
and you whine about savages? :p
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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Originally posted by old.anubis
top 10 = 6 healers o_O
and you whine about savages? :p

They get fed their rp through the savages.
So offcourse.
Regards, Glottis
 
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old.anubis

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Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
They get fed their rp through the savages.
So offcourse.
Regards, Glottis

not every1 plays with savages :p
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by old.anubis
top 10 = 6 healers o_O
and you whine about savages? :p
We whine about healers too, wait till the savage nerf really kicks in, then it's just a couple of adjustments to healers and we A ok...
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by old.Nol
We whine about healers too, wait till the savage nerf really kicks in, then it's just a couple of adjustments to healers and we A ok...
Don't forget shammies, Nol! :m00:
 
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old.anubis

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Originally posted by Belomar
Don't forget shammies, Nol! :m00:

and thanes with hunters, they deserve nice nerf bat :mgwhore:
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by old.anubis
and thanes with hunters, they deserve nice nerf bat :mgwhore:

Not really, see we only want classes balanced, which would mean giving thanes and hunters better abilities. There is no place for savages in their current form, and no place for aoe stun.
 
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Jiggs

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Originally posted by sorusi
rps is also determined to how much you play, and lately i cant say ive seen hibb/alb rvr guilds that active in rvr... its basicly just alb zerg and a few hibb guilds

whats the point, we go out primetime we got to fight 4-5 FoTM savage guild groups all after one another, its exactly NO fun at all, even tho we win our fair share its just fecking dull.

i see from the comments of the top hib guilds they are pretty much on the same opinion, so enjoy your farming, see you post hastedebuff-nerf :)
 

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