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Gwadien said:
Nah, 2002 206.

Should probably add the site; Remove My Car

I did a fair bit of shopping around, and those offered like an extra £50 compared to other dudes.
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I remember scrapping my wife's micra, it can be strangely difficult to get rid of a fucked car, especially a non runner.
 
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Raven said:
I remember scrapping my wife's micra, it can be strangely difficult to get rid of a fucked car, especially a non runner.
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Nah, after I brought my civic home I moved my Peugeot, went back out to move it a tiny bit - dead.

It wasn't worth much anyway so I really couldn't be arsed to spend time & money on it and I didn't think I would get much more than the scrap price even if it was running.

Besides, it's one old diesel off the road.
 
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Made my mum a chair.

Obviously I didn't make the cast iron side bits, she asked me to throw them in the skip at work. Left it outside her front door this morning.

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Moriath said:
Not really. violent protests breaking shit is not the way to go. And yes it would cost more to replace in money and environmental terms.
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Can we all have quiet protests please, so we can just all ignore you.

Oh wait.

What's the fucking point in that?
 
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How dare they protest against the law, don't they know it's illegal?!
 
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Moriath said:
Not really. violent protests breaking shit is not the way to go. And yes it would cost more to replace in money and environmental terms.
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We're living in a time where the UK government is legislating to restrict our right to peaceful protest.

This is a model that's being adopted across the world - and we're at the forefront of it in western democracies. We're doing it largely because peaceful protests, specifically over the environment - because it's the crucial issue of our time and our governments aren't acting with the necessary urgency - and these peaceful protests have been disruptive.

So our government's response? Criminalise a lot of peaceful protest. Restrict when and where we're allowed to protest. Make it a requirement that we have to ask permission to protest.


Fuck government. I'm 100% behind violent protest over this issue. I've never taken part in violent protest - but if people want to start smashing windows because they realise that we're fucked and the majority of the complacent, compliant muppet british public won't pressure our government (a government banning their means of protest left right and centre) then good on them.

I won't condemn them even if they go much further than breaking windows. If they shut down polluting industry by breaking machinery then I'm absolutely happy about that too.


We've ignored the environment for too long. Humanity has lost 60% of animal populations since just 1970.

We aren't treating the world the way we should - and I think humanity is not going to make it because of that - and we're taking down the rest of the natural world with us. If some enlightened humans, or even misguided fools, want to go to war over that I'm absolutely behind them.


So yes. Good on them. Smash the windows of the place I work. They finance companies that are out-and-out polluters. I'd happily see you set fire to canary wharf and burn the lot down as a message to the world that it needs to desparately change.

I'm not a violent man. I don't think I've got it in me. But at this point we're so far fucked that I cannot bring myself to lift a finger to condemn anyone who's taking action to protest against our self-genocide.
 
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Gwadien said:
Can we all have quiet protests please, so we can just all ignore you.

Oh wait.

What's the fucking point in that?
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You can protest without breaking stuff. Cause disruption , block the roads make a big inconvenience.

theres never a reason to destroy things
 
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Moriath said:
You can protest without breaking stuff. Cause disruption , block the roads make a big inconvenience.

theres never a reason to destroy things
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But think about the environmental damage all those road blockages will cause by forcing traffic to take longer detours!
 
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60% of all animals since 1970 @Embattle, @Moriath.

If that isn't indicative of an urgent existential problem then what fucking is?

We go to war over oil. Kill hundreds of thousands of people. And you two twats are complaining about inconvenient protests when we've destroyed entire ecosystems.

Humanity will kill itself largely because most of us think like you two.
 
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Moriath said:
You can protest without breaking stuff. Cause disruption , block the roads make a big inconvenience.

theres never a reason to destroy things
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Trying to think of a protest that hasn't used violence, destruction or serious inconvenience to the authorities that's been successful.

Nope, still can't think of one.
 
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Scouse said:
We're living in a time where the UK government is legislating to restrict our right to peaceful protest.

This is a model that's being adopted across the world - and we're at the forefront of it in western democracies. We're doing it largely because peaceful protests, specifically over the environment - because it's the crucial issue of our time and our governments aren't acting with the necessary urgency - and these peaceful protests have been disruptive.

So our government's response? Criminalise a lot of peaceful protest. Restrict when and where we're allowed to protest. Make it a requirement that we have to ask permission to protest.


Fuck government. I'm 100% behind violent protest over this issue. I've never taken part in violent protest - but if people want to start smashing windows because they realise that we're fucked and the majority of the complacent, compliant muppet british public won't pressure our government (a government banning their means of protest left right and centre) then good on them.

I won't condemn them even if they go much further than breaking windows. If they shut down polluting industry by breaking machinery then I'm absolutely happy about that too.


We've ignored the environment for too long. Humanity has lost 60% of animal populations since just 1970.

We aren't treating the world the way we should - and I think humanity is not going to make it because of that - and we're taking down the rest of the natural world with us. If some enlightened humans, or even misguided fools, want to go to war over that I'm absolutely behind them.


So yes. Good on them. Smash the windows of the place I work. They finance companies that are out-and-out polluters. I'd happily see you set fire to canary wharf and burn the lot down as a message to the world that it needs to desparately change.

I'm not a violent man. I don't think I've got it in me. But at this point we're so far fucked that I cannot bring myself to lift a finger to condemn anyone who's taking action to protest against our self-genocide.
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You work for the man?
 
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Tom said:
Trying to think of a protest that hasn't used violence, destruction or serious inconvenience to the authorities that's been successful.

Nope, still can't think of one.
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Had an article in New Scientist from about 15 years ago. They found the exact opposite - peaceful, convenient protest is easily ignorable. Violent protest gets attention and results.
 
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Scouse said:
Had an article in New Scientist from about 15 years ago. They found the exact opposite - peaceful, convenient protest is easily ignorable. Violent protest gets attention and results.
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That isn't the opposite of what @Tom said; you're agreeing with him.
 
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DaGaffer said:
That isn't the opposite of what @Tom said; you're agreeing with him.
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Yep. In my defence I've been drinking heavily all week. Got a week off and g/f's sister and hubby are stopping in their camper van.

The 72 pint barrel of beer lasted 3 days and we've blown through 9 bottles of fizz, two bottles of rum, 3 wine and a bottle of apperol spritz.

That list is not exhaustive!

Anyway. Riding up Snowdon in an hour to clear the current hangover. When's you ride @Tom? :)
 
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