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[Job]

I'm talking about the Tesla system ...wtf, got shares in Tesla data systems have you.

 

[TdC]

Indeed, but are you inferring the driver also confused the truck for the sky?

tbh there are spots on a motorway I sometimes take where, under certain conditions specifically light rain during bright overcast, the road and the sky have exactly the same colour.

 

[BloodOmen]

Oooo, Samuel L Jackson and George Lucas both confirmed that Mace Windu isn't dead.

 

[fettoken]

I'm talking about the Tesla system ...wtf, got shares in Tesla data systems have you.

Nah, it's just that i previously valued some of your opinions until the whole Brexit deal, and for the life of me, i can't help but to think of some random ill-informed backwards Brexiter from some shithole in northern England, when i see you post.

 

[Job]

On that note.

View: https://youtu.be/qQkx-4pFjus

 

[old.user4556]

On that note.

View: https://youtu.be/qQkx-4pFjus

Scheiße !

 

[TdC]

isn't there a story about some dude having saved his whole life to buy a Winnebago only to trash it because he turned on the cruise control and went in the back to make himself a cup of coffee? it veered off the road and totaled itself. maybe it's a Snopes thing. edit: yes, very old one too!

 

[Job]

It does say in the Tesla manual that the software might be following a car that veers around...say an injured pedestrian lying in the road, that you'll have to take command, because it might well not bother to brake.
Which is about as good as putting a brick on the accelerator.

 

[fettoken]

isn't there a story about some dude having saved his whole life to buy a Winnebago only to trash it because he turned on the cruise control and went in the back to make himself a cup of coffee? it veered off the road and totaled itself. maybe it's a Snopes thing. edit: yes, very old one too!

Evidently it's the same type of people that buys into these things and crashes. The day when you can turn on the cruise control safely and have a wank/sexor in the meantime, I'd buy that car.

 

[Scouse]

That story is considerably more epic than the attention it is getting...Tesla have just killed someone and it beggars belief to me that they were allowed to even implement such technology and it wasnt banned the second youtube vids of people letting the car drive for them, were released.
The lawyers must be looking to build a new office block in every city to house the ambulance chasers.

Average driver death every 94 million miles. Apparently this is the first autopilot death in 143 million miles or something.

Driverless cars 1, humans 0.

 

[Job]

Well technically they aren't driverless, in fact I would call them dangerous, true autonomous cars should be 100X safer that humans...except you are asking a computer to do something humans are very good at indeed, contexting a situation, understanding the bigger picture in random scenarios, computers are yet to even come close.
I think the follow the car in front feature is quite a cheat, if you find a Tesla behind you, steer right across the road to almost running off it and see if it follows you, just seeing if you were in auto mode mate...sorry about that, I'll call a tow truck.

 

[Job]

NBC new photo news gallery is superb, gives the news a much harder hit.

Good website code as well.
The Week in Pictures: June 24 - July 1

 

[Scouse]

The driverless cars are already better than humans mile-for-mile @Job.

1.5x might not be 100x but it's still better. No matter how you feel about it.

 

[Job]

Its hardly a comparison the Tesla system needs constant human overide and attention, it is little more than a video tracking system with ultrasonics.

 

[Moriath]

The driverless cars are already better than humans mile-for-mile @Job.

1.5x might not be 100x but it's still better. No matter how you feel about it.

How many pf those 143 million miles were in test conditions ? What sort of automation was in those miles? The google one or this semi auto system. I dont think the tesla beta system really qualifies as an automated system. As said before its supposed to be attended all the time. Could be it caused more close shaves and the human in it stopped the accident.

 

[Raven]

Either full autonomy or none at all.

 

[Job]

Its such a minefield in the real world, what if something falls of a lorry, or a large pothole, a drunk person lying in the road, a dodgy situation only a human could understand, if they program the software to always stop just in case, we'd never get anywhere.
Narrow country roads with passing places, the cars will need to talk to each other, situations that require a human to make social decisions about continuing, what if the car is causing an obstruction in an emergency.
Could a policeman wave one over, if there was a dangerous situation ahead.
You can imagine technology to overcome this, but it starts to get a bit epic and whos fault do failures belong to.

 

[Scouse]

Who cares about any of that shit @Job if mile-for-real-mile they're already outperforming humans.

If you could cut our 2000 road deaths a year to 1500 through the use of those systems today - which is what would happen - then we'd find ways to cope with the rest.

So what if stupid software errors kill people - stupid erratic and distracted humans kill even more people - and when family members die it makes no fucking difference whatsoever, because they're still dead.

Speaking from experience - dead dads are dead dads. Objectively speaking we could do with less of them.

 

[Job]

I have full faith in the abilities of driverless cars, but it will take neural networks, constant inter car communication and certainly humans ultimately looking over the whole thing from above.

 

[Scouse]

I have full faith in the abilities of driverless cars, but it will take neural networks, constant inter car communication and certainly humans ultimately looking over the whole thing from above.

It clearly doesn't.

Autonomous cars are safer than humans today.

 

[Job]

I mean from a control centre overseeing the entire thing like traffic control, decisions will have to be made on things computers are a long way off from grasping.

 

[Shagrat]

I mean from a control centre overseeing the entire thing like traffic control, decisions will have to be made on things computers are a long way off from grasping.

but that's not the case at all, if all the cars are maintaining the same speed and the same distance etc. then why do you need a control centre

 

[Scouse]

I mean from a control centre overseeing the entire thing like traffic control, decisions will have to be made on things computers are a long way off from grasping.

What the hell has that got to do with safety?

Right now, today, autonomous cars are safer than human driven ones. If in the future you want some traffic control of autonomous cars to improve journey times then that's fine - but again that's clearly a job that'll be done a bazillion times better by AI than humans.

I get it. You don't like handing your control over to a machine. But they're better than us. So man up and free your mind!

(and ourselves from other restrictions - I'd love a bar in my car whilst it drives me to my holiday destination, few drinks, overnight sleep, wake up here)

 

[Job]

Let..me..see...ok
Theres a frickin Tornado on its way, a riot in the Bronx, electricity down in Toronto...too many people turning up to see a rare double breasted chipwaffler.

Anyway, here's the jet powered catamaran on it's way to the Isle of Man, bit rough today, but on smooth water they open her up and you can feel the thumps against your chest from the beach.

 

[Job]

Good points in the Bloomberg article about car automation.
Tesla's 'Autopilot' Will Err. Humans Will Overreact.

 

[Gwadien]

What a poor headline

Serbia cafe killing: Gunman shoots wife and four others, injuring 20 - BBC News

Serbia cafe killing: Gunman shoots wife and four others, injuring 20

 

[Moriath]

Caroline Aherne: Royle Family writer and actress dies aged 52 - BBC News

Another one bites the dust

 

[Edmond]

Caroline Aherne: Royle Family writer and actress dies aged 52 - BBC News

Another one bites the dust

Ah, that's a shitter. Shame

 

[TdC]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhWUFXvaZjo

 

[Job]