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[rynnor]

It may even have an effect on global temperatures - though the relocation of cold air from one place to another may or may not do that.

On this bit - no its not just its impact on the Jetstream though this will be the most obvious bit - during a solar minima you not only get less sunspots you get less faculae - bright spots which add a fair bit to the sun's output. So basically the sun's output actually lowers - less energy per metre squared on earth = colder, less UV output = less Ozone produced = colder etc.

You can see from the NASA link above it wasn't just a re-distribution of hot and cold areas but a general cooling.

 

[old.Tohtori]

So Finlands weather day by day this week'ish; 1: Sunny with light snow. 2: Slushy snowfall. 3: heavy snowstorm 4: Melted snow and ice. 5: Foggy and wet as a scottish nun.

Mother nature having that time of year.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Access Denied]

Shiny new laptop arrived today. HP Pavilion. i3 2.40GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics. Windows 8 annoys the fuck out of me though so I'm putting Win7 on there when I get home from work tonight. Just means I've got to download the drivers from the hardware vendors. Irritating but better than Windows 8.

 

[Raven]

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/software-and-web-apps/how-to-make-windows-8-look-like-windows-7-50009546/

 

[Scouse]

Irritating but better than Windows 8.

Meh. I just put classic shell on there and it's back to it's win-7 goodness

 

[Scouse]

Four. Humans only generate, what, 5%? of global CO2 emissions anyway. Lowering that by a couple of percent won't make any difference. Total non production of CO2 (which cant happen) wouldn't make a lot of difference.

Two seconds of your own research would have told you that's a load of bullshit, Raven.

And, just because I think you're not actually interested in clicking the link as much as a sort affirming a sort of there-is-no-global-warming religious belief, I'll point out that it's a good source

 

[Raven]

So it varied by 120ppm pre man and has varied by 80ppm post man. OK then.

Short of reforesting the planet I don't think there is a great deal we can do about that.

We could always stop burning fossil fuels (which releases carbon that was already in the atmosphere at some point, it doesn't create it!) and go nuclear or we can get used to walking everywhere, not distributing goods, living in the dark, not shipping all our waste to China (which is eco friendly, ok!) and generally return to a stone age civilisation. Though I am not sure where we would stand on guilt tax there though.

That page still doesn't give any solid information either.

Climate fluctuates, always has, always will. I would be more concerned if it stayed the same tbfh.

 

[rynnor]

The queen sounds like some of my elderly neighbours - marking bowls of nuts to see if her assigned police have been nicking them - pretty petty...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25344656

 

[Raven]

Starting to wonder if Youtube is run by care in the community types

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25351123

After the debacle of making people use the horrific Google+ they start fucking up gaming videos.

 

[Shagrat]

The queen sounds like some of my elderly neighbours - marking bowls of nuts to see if her assigned police have been nicking them - pretty petty...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25344656

well to be fair, i'd want to know if the police had been messing about with my nuts as well.

 

[Moriath]

Two seconds of your own research would have told you that's a load of bullshit, Raven.

And, just because I think you're not actually interested in clicking the link as much as a sort affirming a sort of there-is-no-global-warming religious belief, I'll point out that it's a good source

We can't just create carbon out of nothing. All the carbon that is on earth always has been. The stuff that was dino in fossil fuels was once free roaming etc. as it is co2 is only around 4 percent of the atmosphere or something so I doubt it has that much of an impact.

I think it's just coincidence that these solar events and increase of co2 are at the same time and although the co2 might be helping global warming it's not as much as has been made out.

We are on a planet not a static manufactured Eco system. So it will change over time and we haven't been around long enough to say if this is a natural thing or not. We just need to adapt to it as it happens.

 

[Madmaxx]

I just finished reading "The Lost Symbol" the third book in the Dan Brown Series following Robert Langdon after "Angels & demons" & "The Da Vinci Code", its actually the first book I've read in quite a while but I really liked it. I do like books that draw on real life facts, so even if the story is quite un-believable there is still some truth to it so it makes you wonder.

 

[Madmaxx]

Since starting uni I thought about joining the generic sports I've done all my life football/rugby etc, I thought fuck it a fresh start etc picked something different and interesting. Karate. Have to say I'm really liking it the teacher definitely helps as he's pretty forgiving as we are beginners, and has a joke as to why not to do a particular technique in a certain way for example. One thing that was caught in the first couple session is that I'm pretty tense all the time, so just learning to breath through techniques and take it easy was pretty good.

I will be taking my first grading in December, but I'm quite comfortable with the basics we have been learning.

I had my grading last night and ended up passing, what was cool about the whole thing was that it was where the Sensei grading us actually learnt karate to and we were in the same hall that he learnt/took his first grading some 40 years ago; and it was the first time he had returned one of those funny things I guess.

 

[Scouse]

We can't just create carbon out of nothing. All the carbon that is on earth always has been.

That statement alone makes me wonder what fucking planet you've been living on, and whether your corner of it has an educational system.

It's simply staggering.

You do understand the process of converting carbon in fossil fuels to atmospheric carbon, don't you? You understand the basic principle that burning carbon based fuels in the presence of oxygen gives rise to a number of things including Carbon Dioxide, which is a gas, not a solid, in the air, not underground?

Direct questions there Moriath. Tell me you understand those principles.

 

[Madmaxx]

I just finished reading "The Lost Symbol" the third book in the Dan Brown Series following Robert Langdon after "Angels & demons" & "The Da Vinci Code", its actually the first book I've read in quite a while but I really liked it. I do like books that draw on real life facts, so even if the story is quite un-believable there is still some truth to it so it makes you wonder.

Oh I also bought "Inferno" to at the same time as it was on sale, must admit I forgot how much I liked reading.

 

[Job]

Er Scouse..hes right..the total amount of carbon is set...we just change its state..if you burn wood or let it rot the same amount goes into the atmosphere...burning oil just releases carbon that our ancestors have taken out of the air to make their bodies.

 

[Scouse]

Er Scouse..hes right..the total amount of carbon is set...we just change its state..if you burn wood or let it rot the same amount goes into the atmosphere...burning oil just releases carbon that our ancestors have taken out of the air to make their bodies.

Of course it is. Did everyone take a retard pill or something? What relevance is the fact that the amount of carbon atoms on earth is effectively set to any discussion of global and/or solar warming?

Do you not think that having a shitload more carbon distributed in the atmosphere at a single point in time is the important factor?

 

[Job]

Yes it is important..though you must remember..and this is a very important and rarely stated fact...CO2 is a very weak greenhouse gas and has pretty well done all the warming it can at present levels...AGW scenarios require amplificaion factors....they are the guesswork...it would be childs play if CO2 simply warmed the planet as you increased it.

 

[rynnor]

No one can say with any confidence how much an x% increase in atmospheric CO2 increases temperature - that's the crux of it.

It could be practically no increase - like pissing into the sea.

 

[Raven]

Not to mention that there are several far more damaging gases, methane being one of them. Again, something mankind has very little control over. Common or garden water vapour too.

 

[Scouse]

No one can say with any confidence how much an x% increase in atmospheric CO2 increases temperature - that's the crux of it.

It could be practically no increase - like pissing into the sea.

Good thing we take into account all greenhouse gasses, and human-distributed aerosols that are cooling the planet too...

 

[Raven]

Erg, you might as well link the daily star.

 

[Madmaxx]

wouldn't have thought it would looked like that, then again I don't what it should look like.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI&feature=player_embedded

 

[Madmaxx]

Crazy.

Six-year-old suspended for 'sexual harassment' - for kissing a schoolgirl on the hand

http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2013/12...dl14|sec1_lnk1&pLid=229832#!slide=aol_1008193

 

[Scouse]

Erg, you might as well link the daily star.

If you don't like that particular broadsheet how about The Finiancial Times then?

Good article, worth a read - and addresses sceptics too...

Directly applicable to you as well:

The most contentious theory – and the one global warming sceptics are most interested in – is that the climate is not as sensitive to carbon dioxide emissions as previously thought. Even if this proves correct, all the climate models used by the IPCC for its latest assessment show that if greenhouse gas emissions continue at current rates, the world will still exceed this century the 2C warming from pre-industrial levels

 

[Moriath]

That statement alone makes me wonder what fucking planet you've been living on, and whether your corner of it has an educational system.

It's simply staggering.

You do understand the process of converting carbon in fossil fuels to atmospheric carbon, don't you? You understand the basic principle that burning carbon based fuels in the presence of oxygen gives rise to a number of things including Carbon Dioxide, which is a gas, not a solid, in the air, not underground?

Direct questions there Moriath. Tell me you understand those principles.

at some point it wasnt a fossil fuel, it was in the atmosphere there was a time when there wasnt fossil fuels ... before the stuff that died to make them was there and early life survived. if all the carbon at the time of creation was in the air before everything was made then how did we get to be .. surely it would have been too hot for life.

 

[Moriath]

If you don't like that particular broadsheet how about The Finiancial Times then?

Good article, worth a read - and addresses sceptics too...

Directly applicable to you as well:

you can find studies that contradict the popular view // you can quote things that papers put in them .. they really dont mean much .. its all conjecture .. no one knows .... there isnt enough data or experience to prove anything one way or the other

 

[Scouse]

Jeesus @Moriath, you need to stop smoking.

 

[ileks]

if all the carbon at the time of creation was in the air before everything was made then how did we get to be .. surely it would have been too hot for life.

Exactly man. Scouse just got scienced.