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The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse
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They are stricter in a way, because the old domination of the class by the teacher has gone and nipping it in the bud has been lost.
Now the teacher has no process to contain bad behaviour and simply passes it to pastoral who put in place procedures to kid glove the child into conforming.
90% of it is amateur psychology to see what the problem is...home..friends..boyfriends..sexual confusion?
It all sounds very sensible..the road to hell and all.
Most schools use isolation, especially for the rest of the lesson, my school is currently you get 1 warning (You don't have to give a warning obvious things that kids straight up shouldn't be doing) Then they get their first punishment which is a 20 minute detention, then if they continue they're in isolation for the rest of the lesson, get 2-3 of those a week and you're in isolation for a day.
When you talk about isolation you just mean removing them from the classroom I assume rather than those isolation booths?
'Hundreds spend week in school isolation'
These look horrendous and can't be good for children and seem to be being used in an idiotic way. This is what I was talking about. It's physiological torture to use these booths on kids.
The kids have changed and the teachers have feck all they can do without getting in trouble and the kids know it.Honestly, leaves a real bad taste in my mouth. It feels utterly draconian.
Teachers when I was a kid could absolutely keep unruly classrooms under control without excluding anyone. The idea that kids were taken out of class was unheard of.
No they haven't.The kids have changed
Honestly, leaves a real bad taste in my mouth. It feels utterly draconian.
Teachers when I was a kid could absolutely keep unruly classrooms under control without excluding anyone. The idea that kids were taken out of class was unheard of.
Life isn't supposed to be like that.schools do feel quite draconian as a result of it.
Honestly, leaves a real bad taste in my mouth. It feels utterly draconian.
Teachers when I was a kid could absolutely keep unruly classrooms under control without excluding anyone. The idea that kids were taken out of class was unheard of.
Well yeah. But fucking isolation booths and rooms that they sat in on their own?Really? I remember kids being kicked out of class when I was at school. Sometimes it was stand outside, sometimes get sent to the Head.
I had teachers who could control a class through fear, others (not many) who could control a class through being interesting, others who used the head and higher ups to control things, and a couple of memorable ones who controlled absolutely fuck all, which is why I only did half my History syllabus for example.
Well yeah. But fucking isolation booths and rooms that they sat in on their own?
Maybe you'd sit outside the headmasters room on a bench for a bit. But this seems systematised.
Punishment was getting detention. Which wasn't bad - it was an hour to do your homework. The fucker teachers wouldn't let you do it so that was a *really* long hour, but oddly counterproductive as you'd think you were in school to learn.
I've a real distaste for our education system tho. School batters the independence and enthusiasm out of kids and holds the brightest back
Isolation. It was embarrasaing sat outside the heads (and never that long).What's the difference between sitting outside the heads and sitting in a room?
Isolation. It was embarrasaing sat outside the heads (and never that long).
What had you done @Embattle?
Yeah you see, today you'd be gone.I was talking to a neighbour/friend who was in the lunch queue but the person next to him kept lightly pushing him so I asked him to stop and he didn't and thought it was wise to try the same with me, thus I punched him and he went flying into the corner of a wooden wall splitting his head open on one side.
Yeah you see, today you'd be gone.
And what does that achieve?Yeah you see, today you'd be gone.
And what does that achieve?
It's costly disruptive idiocy that pushes the problem elsewhere rather than dealing with it.Not a great deal, but in the world of quasi privatised education its much better for schools to get rid rather than spending dwindling resources on trying to deal with it.
Also it addresses the problem of parents thinking that schools don't do enough to deal with the kid that assaulted/bullied their kid.
It's costly disruptive idiocy that pushes the problem elsewhere rather than dealing with it.
Its not just teachers.
Everyone is being roped into social.issues without an ounce of training, protection or insurance.
My landlord mate has been told he has to visit all his properties every six months and report any social issues, illegal immigrants, child abuse etc.
And apparently me going there for the gas check can be one of them.
What the living fuk.
Also another mate who fits broadband for bt has been told the same.
Just utter, idiotic cost savings pushed by numbfuk university pricks with a slim grasp on reality.
Oh really.
No training..no context..completely exposing yourself as the source..no backup, quite possibly totally mis reading a situation, putting huge stress and investigations on the family.
Its not my place to be an arm of the social services wedged into my job.
Quite obviously I could never visit again and on top of that I put my telephone number and address on the gas form.
Not a fukin chance.