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DaGaffer

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Out of 250+ apprenticeships, 1 of them in a store manager.

The 4 team leaders part is probably worse considering 'team leaders' usually consists of nothing.

Since I have no idea how many Vision Express stores there are, or how many staff overall, or the "normal" qualification path to becoming a store manager for Vision Express (are they all qualified opticians? I have no idea), or indeed what their staff turnover rates are, I don't feel qualified to have an opinion on how good those stats are one way or another.
 

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30 years ago the darling of the liberal elite..Salmon Rushdie released Satanic verses, they backed him to the hilt against calls to ban it.
Endless discussions about freedom to offend..de platforming.

Amazon has banned Tommy Robinson book criticising Islam today...not a word in support of him.
Just a lot of gloating that he is being de platformed.
 

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That's because a Publisher will choose to publish fucked up books.

Amazon does not have to sell products if it does not want to.

I don't remember you being up in arms when that Christian bakery in NI refused to bake a cake for that gay couple.
 

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Those liberal elite are to blame for everything. The Illuminati really need to step up their game.
 

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That's because a Publisher will choose to publish fucked up books.

Amazon does not have to sell products if it does not want to.

I don't remember you being up in arms when that Christian bakery in NI refused to bake a cake for that gay couple.
Again, amazon is now so pervasive that, on balance, they shouldn't really have a say in not selling stuff that's not illegal. And again, it differs from the christian bakery because they're not a global delivery mechanism for cakes to gays.

I don't see Amazon refusing to sell mein kampf? Or are we now "adult" enough to be allowed to be able to read it, should we like.


I do sympathise. Tommy Robinson is an odious little cunt. But you do seem to miss the entire point about censorship, and don't really have an argument for it that is cogent and joined-up.
 

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Again, amazon is now so pervasive that, on balance, they shouldn't really have a say in not selling stuff that's not illegal. And again, it differs from the christian bakery because they're not a global delivery mechanism for cakes to gays.

I don't see Amazon refusing to sell mein kampf? Or are we now "adult" enough to be allowed to be able to read it, should we like.


I do sympathise. Tommy Robinson is an odious little cunt. But you do seem to miss the entire point about censorship, and don't really have an argument for it that is cogent and joined-up.

So what you're saying is Jeff Bezos should be restricted in how he conducts his business because he's been successful? hmm.

What if millions of people decide to boycott Amazon? Shrug your shoulders and say so what?

I'm fairly sure Tommy Robinson can find other ways of mass-selling his book, he's just sniping out companies he knows don't like him and pretending its a massive freedom of speech issue, which it isn't.
 

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Since I have no idea how many Vision Express stores there are, or how many staff overall, or the "normal" qualification path to becoming a store manager for Vision Express (are they all qualified opticians? I have no idea), or indeed what their staff turnover rates are, I don't feel qualified to have an opinion on how good those stats are one way or another.

Vision Express now operate all the former Tescos opticians, so they're pretty big.

I just feel like the stats offered were a bit underwhelming, I don't see how anyone could read that and be inspired.

1/250+ chance of becoming a manager - when every tom dick and harry is a manager these days :p
 

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Also Mein Kampf is a shit example, it's an important historical book.

Go see if there's any pro-ISIS/Al-Qaeda/Israel(loljk) books.

What if a guy bought his book from Amazon, then went and killed a few Muslims, Police get to his house, see the book from Amazon, becomes public knowledge.

First of all Amazon would be ruined.

Secondly, shouldn't Amazon have some responsibility over what they sell? (I mean people are always moaning about stuff sold by 3rd parties on there, and they always do something about it - less like eBay.)

Thirdly, There would be outrage that the Government is forcing what businesses should and shouldn't sell.

You can resort to petty little insults all you want, but I think you are categorically incorrect in this, and I know you're going to respond with lots of paragraphs, italics and maybe a couple of cheeky bolds, but I have my opinion, you have yours, don't try to make it look like I'm not explaining myself properly because you disagree with me, that's pretty pathetic.
 
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Reading all the tweets and comments anout the Neverland.documentary and even articles in the Guard who you think would at least pretend to know better.
Leaving Neverland review – astonishing accounts of Michael Jackson's alleged sexual abuse

The country ...no the world is just turning into a Jeremy Kyle audience.

Two chancers for millions in an edited shockumentary is now a 'testimony' it would seem.

Quote from article..
Journalistic and legal standards require neutrality be observed, but as a viewer it’s hard to escape the conclusion that the star – who openly admitted he slept with boys in his bed, and was trailed by accusations of child molestation for the last 15 years of his life – did exactly what these men say he did.
 

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Looks like Tommy is doing a ministry of funny walks step into the Labour anti-Semitism question.


View: https://youtu.be/TKk_ynDnn8g


As hilarious as this is, this is the exact same message the west portrays.

The obvious problem with that is we are supposed to take some guys opinions as evidence, but the more accepted media outlets are doing the exact same.
 

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The obvious problem with that is we are supposed to take some guys opinions as evidence, but the more accepted media outlets are doing the exact same.

You mean unlike Tommy's 2 minute videos where he decides that their life is fine because some kids are playing football and all the aid money goes to terrorists?
 

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Yes..thats..er, exactly what I said.

He is simply doing the same trick the mainstream media does on a daily basis to fit an agenda.
 

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Yes..thats..er, exactly what I said.

He is simply doing the same trick the mainstream media does on a daily basis to fit an agenda.

So he's doing the same thing that he criticises? lol.

Difference is that he's chatting out of his arse. It's anti-labour/left wing bullshit that has nothing to do with his political views.
 

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So you think Ministers should be allowed to call black people 'coloured people'

lol.

okay.
 

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So you think Ministers should be allowed to call black people 'coloured people'
1) Interesting use of the term "allowed"
2) I already addressed that question by saying:
To be fair, she's a horrible nazi fucknut who has made an epic fail using that term
so, I don't think ministers should be so dumb as to use that term. But it shouldn't be legislated against.


Have you now decended into such an SJW that all objectiveness in reading other peoples posts has become impossible?

It's not like I didn't already call her a "horrible nazi fucknut who made an epic fail" is it?
:rolleyes:
 

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1) Interesting use of the term "allowed"
2) I already addressed that question by saying:

so, I don't think ministers should be so dumb as to use that term. But it shouldn't be legislated against.


Have you now decended into such an SJW that all objectiveness in reading other peoples posts has become impossible?

It's not like I didn't already call her a "horrible nazi fucknut who made an epic fail" is it?
:rolleyes:

No, but like 5 years ago, I know that there would be much more uproar about her calling someone 'coloured'

Now the Right has turned their fight from a racist fight to a freedom of speech fight and it appears that they have been successful.

Won't be long until we get some proper assaults going with some proper nice language being thrown around, because if we're not allowed to try to prevent hate by teaching people what is appropriate and what isn't then we're fucked.

Probably gonna see some Right-wing legal cases within schools soon. Ofc you'll defend Mr Smith sending his kids to school telling them it's okay to call others niggers and pakis.
 

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Isnt it people of colour?

Which us hilarious..because black is the very opposite of colour.
Obviously white people are coloured..all of them in fact.

Dark skinned is the only true description, but it wouldnt go down well...and we really need to stop mentioning skin colour if we want to move forward.
Its identity by association.
 

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No, but like 5 years ago, I know that there would be much more uproar about her calling someone 'coloured'

Now the Right has turned their fight from a racist fight to a freedom of speech fight and it appears that they have been successful.

Won't be long until we get some proper assaults going with some proper nice language being thrown around, because if we're not allowed to try to prevent hate by teaching people what is appropriate and what isn't then we're fucked.

Probably gonna see some Right-wing legal cases within schools soon. Ofc you'll defend Mr Smith sending his kids to school telling them it's okay to call others niggers and pakis.
Well its not racist...but who wants to reign in the term..nobody.
 

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Ooh.I ve been warned by the bbc.

It appears that people of colour is now out as of last year.

Its now just black...good direction..maybe eventually human..then the guy over there in a stupid hat.
 

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if we want to move forward.
Its identity by association.

For sure. It's the discussion of 'acceptable' terminology which in my mind seem detached from reality. Does the discussion solve any problems or just create new ones? From my point of view, many peeps just seem to get dragged into a discussion they have nothing to do with due to medial reach and just wanting attention and thus, takes a dump on twitter or some other media platform. I do it all the time here, and have nothing constructive to contribute with, really!
 

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