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The rules are clear: Footballers are not to be involved in betting activity of any kind. Add to that - he'admitted he knew about the odds from the bookies and the bookies say that someone collected a 5-figure payout on the back of that.

To collect a five figure payout (minimum ten thousand pounds, maximum £99,999) on the back of 8-1 odds you have to put in an awful lot of money. On a bet about a specific person eating a pie.

Nobody puts down a grand and a half (minimum) on the off chance that a reserve goalie is going to eat a pie in an honest bet. There are two conclusions - one is idiocy and luck, the other (more likely, because of the sums involved) is collusion and therefore corruption.

Yes. It's a funny story. But it's a funny story about corruption and criminal activity. And whoever is corrupt deserves what they get.
 

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The rules are clear: Footballers are not to be involved in betting activity of any kind. Add to that - he'admitted he knew about the odds from the bookies and the bookies say that someone collected a 5-figure payout on the back of that.

To collect a five figure payout (minimum ten thousand pounds, maximum £99,999) on the back of 8-1 odds you have to put in an awful lot of money. On a bet about a specific person eating a pie.

Nobody puts down a grand and a half (minimum) on the off chance that a reserve goalie is going to eat a pie in an honest bet. There are two conclusions - one is idiocy and luck, the other (more likely, because of the sums involved) is collusion and therefore corruption.

Yes. It's a funny story. But it's a funny story about corruption and criminal activity. And whoever is corrupt deserves what they get.

Not sure where this idea of a five figure payout comes from, when the bet in question had a £5 limit on, meaning the most his mates could have won was £40. I've seen 2,000 bets mentioned, so SunBets would have made a five figure payout in total.

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And of course it does beg the question, if he knew about the bets and didn't eat the pie, would he still be colluding? Would he be then be working with SunBets (I'm going to keep mentioning the bookie, for no apparent reason whatsoever) to make sure they didn't have to pay out £80k on someone eating a pie?

In fact I thought you would have been moderately happy, SunBets are £78k down becuase someone ate a pie (or pasty if we're going to be accurate here), and some cash has been redistributed to the little guys - only about half of Walcott's weekly wages, but a decent amount nonetheless.

To be honest, if I was the sort of chap who had slept on the couch 3 days a week to keep a club running, was preparing for Arsenal to turn up and had found out SunBets had given odds on me to eat a pie at some point during the game, I'd be waiting until the result was beyond doubt, then getting myself a pie. It's a novelty bet ffs, hardly earth shattering.

Only thing that's ruined this story imo are the joyless tossbags we seem to specialise in in this country these days. Something amusing happens and there's always some tosser with no friends and adenoids popping up, getting massively offended for no apparent reason. Although I suspect half of the righteous fury is coming from Liverpool as SunBets are involved.

Did I forget anything?

Oh yes.

SunBets.
 

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bodhi said:
On the SunBets thing - didn't know it was them, even when I read SunBets I didn't make the connection to the Sun until you made your frivolous Liverpool diss. I don't bet y'see. Better things to do with my cash.

I find it funny. It's a funny story. I'm not offended in the least. But it boils down to two things:

1) if you know the rules, you know the consequences of breaking the rules and then you go ahead and do it anyway (for lulz or not) then you're an idiot who deserves what he gets. Boo-fucking-hoo. If it happened in a bank, for £5 in total, the employee in question wouldn't even get to resign - he'd be marched off site immediately and his personal belongings sent on in the post. (I've seen that done). Just because he's a funny fat footballer doesn't mean he doesn't have to take responsibility for his actions.

2) It doesn't matter who it is that gets fucked over or how much they get fucked over for - if they get fucked over by improper conduct then that's wrong.
 

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Don't suppose anyone knows of a way of renting a car for 8 days out of LA Airport and guaranteeing we rent a Dodge Challenger?

Doing LA to Vegas in May, and it would seem wrong to do it in anything else - because Vanishing Point.
 

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Lots of choice through Turo, which appears to be the rental car equivalent of Uber. Anyone used them before?
 

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Doing LA to Vegas in May
Make sure you get off the beaten path a bit. There's those cliche'd straight roads that go on to the horizon like you see in the films, Joshua Trees at the side. But the motorway itself is long hours of boredom.
 

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Make sure you get off the beaten path a bit. There's those cliche'd straight roads that go on to the horizon like you see in the films, Joshua Trees at the side. But the motorway itself is long hours of boredom.

Definitely, going to try and go through Death Valley and swing past Area 51 if possible, but depends on routes. However in Vegas we may (read:will) be doing a Drive Thru Wedding, so want a Challenger to drive thru with :)
 

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Not available at LAX sadly, disappears when you select "Book Now" :(

Email that branch direct. I did that with Hertz in LAX when I wanted to hire a Jag XK to drive down to San Diego for a mate's wedding a few years ago (shit - 13 years ago) and they got one in for me. Can't hurt to ask can it?
 

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Really? You not already married? Cool.

Not yet no - been with SWMBO for over 6 years now, been engaged for 4, but the whole 5k+ for a wedding has been a bit of a stumbling block, as we keep buying furniture, tv's golf clubs, etc. I won a free holiday to Cancun in May, so we're tagging on a trip to LA/Vegas. So the wedding bill has gone from 5k+ to $99. Much more like it.

(We'll end up spending 5k on a party the year after for everyone, but shh, the wedding is teh cheep!).
 

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Not yet no - been with SWMBO for over 6 years now, been engaged for 4, but the whole 5k+ for a wedding has been a bit of a stumbling block, as we keep buying furniture, tv's golf clubs, etc. I won a free holiday to Cancun in May, so we're tagging on a trip to LA/Vegas. So the wedding bill has gone from 5k+ to $99. Much more like it.

(We'll end up spending 5k on a party the year after for everyone, but shh, the wedding is teh cheep!).
That's the way to do it. :)

But what does SWMBO mean?
 

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Decided to fire up HL2 after however many years...still puts every other single player shooter that has come since to shame. Absolute perfection.
 

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DINKY life for me, mutual agreement on "no silly wedding". I can't decide if I want to take the Aston or Ferrari to work.
 

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We are married, I just do what I like :)

Comes with not having children getting in the way.
 

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Married no kids. Had to get married cause needed visa for her to stay in the uk. Wedding cost 150 quid all in i think.
 

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