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Bodhi

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I'd say yay, both me and the missus are very happy with ours, but we both upgraded from earlier Xperias so that was to be expected.
 

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Sorry I went through my biannual trial.... Company kickoff.... Its actually quite fun but this year it was the trial of rum...... I was up at 6.30 again this morning and first down to breakfast....
 

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Anyone bought / played with either the Oneplus Two or WileyFox Storm?
Got my Mrs a Oneplus X and played around with that a bit, I like it a lot. May have to get another, my looks looks dirty! :)
 

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What the actual fuck.
I know someone who is on the sex offenders register for a bullshit reason and I have seen the harm it has done, so I do not always see stuff like this as Black and White.

If they had any proof he knew her age then they should nail his nuts to the wall. But they do have proof she knew what she was doing. He did not groom her on a Sponge Bob forum. She went onto a Sugar Daddy site knowing what she was doing.
 

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Is it ironic that a "communist" society has billionaires that want to exclude the masses from their things?
 

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No because in practice, communism is pretty much the same as capitalism except with capitalism the plebs have rights and a comparatively decent standard of living.
 

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I know someone who is on the sex offenders register for a bullshit reason and I have seen the harm it has done, so I do not always see stuff like this as Black and White.

If they had any proof he knew her age then they should nail his nuts to the wall. But they do have proof she knew what she was doing. He did not groom her on a Sponge Bob forum. She went onto a Sugar Daddy site knowing what she was doing.

Yes, and she was 13, she's not mature enough to be held responsible for her actions. That's why she's called a child.
 

Raven

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I assume its just like an adult dating website for old pervs, nothing illegal in that. Like Soze says, its not like he groomed her, she responded, or he responded to an advert on an adult services website.

Without seeing her we cannot judge whether she looks 13 or 18 (or whatever) I suppose, if he was in any doubt then he should have asked to see her ID.

That being said, ignorance is no defense. He should have been prosecuted, anyone else would have been.
 

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Yes, and she was 13, she's not mature enough to be held responsible for her actions. That's why she's called a child.
I do not think that is always true. If she joined that site and spent 6 months building up a relation ship and took the time to set up a PayPal account ect then she would surely have to take some responsibility?
 

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Its only slightly larger than 2 normal size ones.

...and who the hell eats less that 2 crumpets in 1 sitting?!
 

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Damn straight, marmite is the processed toenail clippings and sweat of Beelzebub himself, everyone knows that!!
 

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I do not think that is always true. If she joined that site and spent 6 months building up a relation ship and took the time to set up a PayPal account ect then she would surely have to take some responsibility?

She's a child. How responsible should a child be? She's almost certainly incapable of the level of maturity you seem to expect of her.
 

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She's a child. How responsible should a child be? She's almost certainly incapable of the level of maturity you seem to expect of her.
I do not believe kids in this day and age do not understand sex at 13. If she did not why was she on a website where girls offer sexual services for money?
 

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I do not think that is always true. If she joined that site and spent 6 months building up a relation ship and took the time to set up a PayPal account ect then she would surely have to take some responsibility?

I can't believe how categorically wrong you are.

Besides, you've got the wrong end of the stick.

The point in him not being put in prison has nothing to do with the fact she was looking for older men, it's more to do with that most 'normal' people wouldn't get away with it by saying 'oops, what she wasn't 16? lol!'

But since you're on this point, kids at the age of 13 wanting sex with older men usually have something quite borked in their childhood, sure 14-15 with people your age, fine.

If you're going on dating websites and a kid says 'Hi! I want sex! But I'm 13!' and you reply with 'That's fine!' Then that's worse than grooming a kid in a playground in some respects; you're taking advantage. (In other respects, it's not sure, taking away innocence etc etc, but you get the point.)

This guy met this girl and a 15 year old in a hotel to have sex with them, if you are sleeping with a 13 year old girl, and you're actively seeking out to sleep with a child, there's no fucking argument about it.

This isn't a 18 year old going to a bar and picking up a 15 year old, getting drunk, and having a one night stand and ending up in prison, this is a man who went out of his way to pay someone to have sex with him.

If anything, the law is there to stop people like this man, not 18 year olds who unknowingly sleep with 15 year olds when they're fucked up.
 

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I do not believe kids in this day and age do not understand sex at 13.
In that case, why do we have paedophilia laws? If they understand sex, then they can enter into sexual relationships in well informed fashion.


You're talking shit soze. Human brains don't stop developing until the mid twenties. Children of her age aren't capable of making well-informed and sensible decisions - they've neither the experience or the actual physical structures in their brains that would allow them to do so.

It's why we have ages of criminal responsibility, some countries have statutory rape laws (because the responsibility should rest solely on the adult) and why we have paedo laws in the first place. Because kids aren't capable of making these decisions rationally.
 

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Is my maths correct here?

Solar panels on Minecraft. They go Leadstone, Hardened, Redstone, Resonant, Advanced and Ultimate. Now a Hardened panel requires 8 Leadstone and so forth up the chain. Unless my maths is completely up the spout I'll need 32,768 Leadstone panels to make an Ultimate. I'm wrong, yes?
 

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In that case, why do we have paedophilia laws? If they understand sex, then they can enter into sexual relationships in well informed fashion.


You're talking shit soze. Human brains don't stop developing until the mid twenties. Children of her age aren't capable of making well-informed and sensible decisions - they've neither the experience or the actual physical structures in their brains that would allow them to do so.

It's why we have ages of criminal responsibility, some countries have statutory rape laws (because the responsibility should rest solely on the adult) and why we have paedo laws in the first place. Because kids aren't capable of making these decisions rationally.
Pedofillia is the sexual attraction to prepubescent children...banging a 13yr old is not pedofillia, not just pedantics, the law is very clear and thousands of men walk free from sex with even 12 year olds.
 

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Especially if they use the Internet to solicit sex. Because, you know, thats what 12 and 13 year old kids do.
 

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