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BBC may ask over-75s to give up free TV licence - BBC News

The beeb need to sell off licences to the likes of Amazon and Netflix...

Imagine how giddy they'd get if the Beeb offered out Doctor Who...

This is very snide by the government, who for years have funded free licences. Now, they expect the BBC to pay for them. Only the BBC is a broadcaster and absolutely should not be fannying around subsidising sections of the populace. Fucking politicians pissing around again.
 

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Yes i have a server for that with a couple friends. :). Whats yr primary

I have a bigger reactor making 53krf/t so the reactor/turbine setup was just a challenge to see if I could deliver water to all four of them at once in sufficient quantaties. Plus the extra power will be used to have 5 laser drills running. Fuel isn't an issue either thanks to a Uranium Ore dimlet :p
 

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This is very snide by the government, who for years have funded free licences. Now, they expect the BBC to pay for them. Only the BBC is a broadcaster and absolutely should not be fannying around subsidising sections of the populace. Fucking politicians pissing around again.

Funding gets diverted for this and soon enough you will hear the calls of "programme quality has gone down drastically, time to scrap the whole thing"

Shame because the bbc isnt bad at all
 

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To you perhaps, the millions who watch the beeb (and those of us abroad who watch their programming that gets exported thus subsidising your tv license) disagree ;)
 

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Doesn't most of the exports go to the /commercial arm of the BBC?

Anyway, an enforced subscription of £12 in this age of traditional TV becoming less and less relevant is bollocks.

For that price you can have Netflix and Amazon prime.
 

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Its not even close to being worth £12 a month.

Agree with this - only thing worth watching on there now is Match of the Day, and I can watch longer highlights without Alan Shearer droning on afterwards on Sky.

If it was subscription based rather than enforced subscription we wouldn't bother - get far more value out of Netflix and the Sky subscription.
 

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Only thing you find worth watching

Just because you think so does not make it so ;)

Almost 10 million people watched call the midwife, clearly we are not the intended audience
 

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Really? You're trying to demonstrate the value of the BBC by using the example of Call the fucking Midwife?
 

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Really? You're trying to demonstrate the value of the BBC by using the example of Call the fucking Midwife?

10 million people watch it.

Think about the audience, middle aged to older people.

People less likely to use PC's and torrent and stuffs.

More likely to sit behind their TV and happily give the Beeb £12 a month.

£120,000,000 a month happily.

I don't expect the BBC to cater for my needs, because I don't pay the TV licence, and if I do watch the BBC it's on the iPlayer, Although they're changing that soon apparently.
 

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Only thing you find worth watching

Just because you think so does not make it so ;)

Almost 10 million people watched call the midwife, clearly we are not the intended audience

That's fine, let the mouth breathers pay to watch that shit. I barely watch anything on the BBC, because its just garbage. Why should I have to pay them?

Its an out of date system that should be taken out back and shot.
 

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Doesn't most of the exports go to the /commercial arm of the BBC?

Anyway, an enforced subscription of £12 in this age of traditional TV becoming less and less relevant is bollocks.

For that price you can have Netflix and Amazon prime.

All of BBC Worldwide's revenue goes back to the corporation to subsidise costs and keep the licence fee down.

The licence fee is very specifically not an "enforced subscription", its a tax that happens to get spent on the BBC. Take the BBC out of the equation and you think the tax will stop? No, it won't, and governments around the world are already changing definitions away from TV licence to "media licence" or "communications licence" models. This is the bit people seem to struggle with; the TV licence isn't unique, isn't even the most expensive, but the BBC does BY FAR the best job with it.

*waits for someone to say "but Finland abolished it"; exception rather than rule.
 

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Finland abolished it and made it into a income dependent tax so now no one who pays taxes in finland can dodge it ;)
 

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Amazon Prime. 70 quid

BBC 120 quid....value for money off the scale...
Compare the two, does Prime offer 2/3rds of the BBC?
 

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point>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you

No. Raven suggested that BBC programming wasn't worth £12 a month, I agreed as most of the BBC's output is utter shite. Ormorof suggested that Call the Midwife was the level of programming that would change my mind, I suggested that programs like Call the Midwife were the reason why I find their output utter shite.

The TV Tax argument is neither here nor there - if I want to watch live TV on other channels, I have to pay for the Beeb as well. If there was a choice in this I would not. If they want to split the license fee out so there is an actual License fee and a subscription for Call the Midwife fans, that would be ok with me.
 

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No. Raven suggested that BBC programming wasn't worth £12 a month, I agreed as most of the BBC's output is utter shite. Ormorof suggested that Call the Midwife was the level of programming that would change my mind, I suggested that programs like Call the Midwife were the reason why I find their output utter shite.

The TV Tax argument is neither here nor there - if I want to watch live TV on other channels, I have to pay for the Beeb as well. If there was a choice in this I would not. If they want to split the license fee out so there is an actual License fee and a subscription for Call the Midwife fans, that would be ok with me.

Oromof did not suggest that Call The Midwife would make you change your opinion, read what he said again.

And the tax issue is entirely relevant; or are you saying you're happy to simply give the government an extra 150 quid to put into general taxation, no questions asked?
 

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Well I can't remember the last time I watched a BBC show but the online and radio content are worth the license fee alone.
 

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I have actually decided I am more concerned that nearly a 6th of the population have nothing better to do with their time than watch Call the Midwife.
 

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No. Raven suggested that BBC programming wasn't worth £12 a month, I agreed as most of the BBC's output is utter shite. Ormorof suggested that Call the Midwife was the level of programming that would change my mind, I suggested that programs like Call the Midwife were the reason why I find their output utter shite.

The TV Tax argument is neither here nor there - if I want to watch live TV on other channels, I have to pay for the Beeb as well. If there was a choice in this I would not. If they want to split the license fee out so there is an actual License fee and a subscription for Call the Midwife fans, that would be ok with me.

My point was that we (as in the majorityon this forum) clearly are not the intended audience, call the midwife was just an example of how millions of people like different tv than you

Match of the day averages less than half of that
 

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Well I can't remember the last time I watched a BBC show but the online and radio content are worth the license fee alone.
This, I cannot listen to a radio station that plays adverts anymore. I tried listening to Chris Moyles on his show but as I tuned in there was an advert playing, immediately changed channel. This alone is worth it for me including the TV channel.

I like the documentaries, some of the drama and the news. Everything else I pretty much don't give a shit about. Oh, wait, Top Gear :p
 

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Why would I answer it when it has nothing to do with whether the BBC is good value for money?

Its completely missing the point and irrelevant. Some people do not have to have an opinion on everything...I don't have to answer every single question or point on FH.

I would be happy to pay my £12 a month if the BBC didn't just churn out crap. They used to be capable.

How would you feel @Scouse that the catering staff at the BBC would only have to feed half the people, hmmm? Tell me! See, irrelevant to the original discussion.

*note, I know it will probably upset you that I can't be arsed to discuss something completely irrelevant for 15 pages but meh.
 
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Why would I answer it when it has nothing to do with whether the BBC is good value for money?

Because it means the BBC is excellent value for money.

If you have to pay your £150 anyway you can either pay it and get nothing, or pay it and get the BBC for free.


Scrap the BBC and you still have to pay £150...
 

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