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[Job]

Actually the issue with the train not going through any city centres is worse...HS train then wait for a connection?
I don't get the whole idea, yes the train is faster, but you have to wait for the frickin thing to turn up, which kjnda dictates your whole day anyway, so 30mins saved is irrelevant...it would be far better to put loads more ordinary speed trains on.

 

[Yoni]

Yeah was probably the name! You tried it?

Going next weekend for Kris' birthday

 

[DaGaffer]

Actually the issue with the train not going through any city centres is worse...HS train then wait for a connection?
I don't get the whole idea, yes the train is faster, but you have to wait for the frickin thing to turn up, which kjnda dictates your whole day anyway, so 30mins saved is irrelevant...it would be far better to put loads more ordinary speed trains on.

You're looking at it the wrong way around. When you arrive at Euston most people will need to make a connection of some sort anyway, probably the Tube; so its not that big a deal to be dropped at a different part of the Underground. The only big negative is access to St. Pancras and the Eurostar, but I assume Old Oak Common/Acton are going to be the West London version of Stratford; an interchange to give fast access to town. If they do it right, it makes more sense than Euston tbh.

 

[Job]

Anyway...who the fuck needs to get to Birmingham 30 mins quicker that they have to spend 10 billion on a train.
You could build a ten lane M99 ring road around England for that.

 

[Raven]

My cat's new bff.

 

[Gwadien]

My cat's new bff.

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Are you sure that isn't Jobs cat?

Clearly a racist cat killing foreigners.

 

[Scouse]

Can't be. The cat is black.

 

[Moriath]

Can't be. The cat is black.

Lol

 

[caLLous]

Well, this was close.

 

[Lamp]

Anyone know what a JSON error is? Got this when trying to upload a pic

Problem at my end or theirs?

 

[Moriath]

Anyone know what a JSON error is? Got this when trying to upload a pic

Problem at my end or theirs?

Jizz son. It Contains jizz and shouldnt be uploaded. Be warned

 

[Trem]

Anyway...who the fuck needs to get to Birmingham 30 mins quicker that they have to spend 10 billion on a train.
You could build a ten lane M99 ring road around England for that.

I agree that you're looking at it the wrong way. It could mean you can get away from Birmingham 30 minutes quicker and everyone wants that.

Fucking shit hole.

 

[Raven]

Yeah but on the other end its London, another dump.

Paying money to go from one shit bin to another.

 

[caLLous]

I agree that you're looking at it the wrong way. It could mean you can get away from Birmingham 30 minutes quicker and everyone wants that.

Fucking shit hole.

Something something glass houses.

 

[Hawkwind]

Anyone know what a JSON error is? Got this when trying to upload a pic

Problem at my end or theirs?

Java Script error basically, make sure your local version is up to date and try again. If you still get it, it is their end.

 

[old.user4556]

Lift up my kilt and call me Jock, my fibre has been fixed!

 

[Ormorof]

Anyone know what a JSON error is? Got this when trying to upload a pic

Problem at my end or theirs?

from a phone app or browser?

either way update whatever you are using to upload it with as it means your format doesnt match theirs

 

[Trem]

Something something glass houses.

Shut it Pierre.

 

[Zarjazz]

Silly Germans, messing with gas emissions again, how on Earth did such a large company think they could get away with.such a blatant cheat.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-after-software-masks-emissions-10508892.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/market_data/shares/5/113230/intraday.stm

Billion of dollars fines looming, class action lawsuits sure to follow, criminal charges likely, shareprice down 20% today.

Good times.

 

[Scouse]

criminal charges likely

Maybe I'm a cynic but I doubt it.

I'd put the whole board up for prison time. And I mean long prison time - 20 years+. And I'd also put the technicians who implemented it up for lesser offences.

NOx kills more people than terrorism.

 

[Gwadien]

We'll take their money to make nuclear.

We're not happy about them making nuclear!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-34306997

 

[TdC]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/market_data/shares/5/113230/intraday.stm

Billion of dollars fines looming, class action lawsuits sure to follow, criminal charges likely, shareprice down 20% today.

Good times.

holy hell, whoever OK'd that idea is going to be fuuuuucked. OR "regretfully let go to empower others in a challenging new role at another company" with a massive payout and some really slobberingly dirty press blowjobs.

 

[Raven]

Good time to buy VW shares. Nobody will give a fuck in 6 months and the prices will go back up.

 

[Scouse]

Good time to buy VW shares. Nobody will give a fuck in 6 months and the prices will go back up.

If the size of fine they're on about happens they'll be fucked for a while...

 

[Raven]

Nah they won't. Share prices will pop back up in no time.

 

[Ormorof]

They are the biggest car manufacturer in the world so will likely be a temporary blip

21 billion euro would be approximately 1 years profit according to wiki except they can probably do some accounting jiggery-pokery and deduct it from taxes somehow

Criminal charges against board members or executive would be more effective in preventing this kind of crap

Or ban all cars that have the system implemented leading to huge recall and market share loss

 

[Scouse]

they can probably do some accounting jiggery-pokery and deduct it from taxes somehow

Yep. No doubt. So "the people" miss out on a tax take from a company that's acted woefully criminally.

 

[DaGaffer]

Or ban all cars that have the system implemented leading to huge recall and market share loss

That's almost certainly going to happen. A recall on its own may not be possible though; might have to be a buyback, because I don't think they're going to be able to do any kind of fix (other car companies use a Urea injection to keep NOx down, as do VW as of this year, but I don't think you could easily retrofit).

The knock-on effects are the thing that will keep the share price down though; this is VW's "unintended acceleration" moment of the millennium, and when that happened to Audi it knocked them on the arse in the US for a decade.

 

[Raven]

Is this US only though? Surely the design doesn't change all that much from country to country.

I can see a lot of fleets having trouble with tax if the emissions are much higher than expected.

 

[DaGaffer]

Is this US only though? Surely the design doesn't change all that much from country to country.

I can see a lot of fleets having trouble with tax if the emissions are much higher than expected.

Yes it's just the US. The reason is US has much stricter NOx rules than CO2 -obsessed Europe, although that will change soon. That's why diesel hasn't really been a thing in the US and they've embraced hybrids more (Japan is the same). VW's diesel cars aren't a massive part of their US business (although more than other makers) but they were trying to encourage diesel sales and made a big marketing play for how clean they were.