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Where did GOA say this? The only statement to this effect that I saw came from Mythic, saying that Mythic had not been hacked.
Where did GOA say this? The only statement to this effect that I saw came from Mythic, saying that Mythic had not been hacked.
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old.Zarff
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some news a while ago on their hp.
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Xeanor
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Looks like they did say they got hacked.
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old.Zarff
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will find it when I cba.
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Laroma was indeed one of the nicest guys I met in DAoC... and 90% of all the ppl playing would have done the same, having fun with the GM acc.
Only "stupid" thing was making his own acc's GM's. Could have gotten away with it.
Only "stupid" thing was making his own acc's GM's. Could have gotten away with it.
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boobi playmobil
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what an incredible retard, i havent been able to play for 3 weeks and he is whining that he wont get his toons back?
throw him in jail, or atleast, force him to eat snails for a year.
and all you people claiming he did nothing illegal, didnt hack etc...
if you get the all codes to Bank of Brahmaputtra´s servers from someone (who hacked them), do you think its legal for you to transfer a few millions to your account as well? since you didnt *hack* in that case either?
what an incredible retard, i havent been able to play for 3 weeks and he is whining that he wont get his toons back?
throw him in jail, or atleast, force him to eat snails for a year.
and all you people claiming he did nothing illegal, didnt hack etc...
if you get the all codes to Bank of Brahmaputtra´s servers from someone (who hacked them), do you think its legal for you to transfer a few millions to your account as well? since you didnt *hack* in that case either?
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i know for a fact i wouldnt risk loosing live game account if i didnt have too, the fact they already knew about the emu thing, before exerimenting on live servers makes you wonder what they where thinking, sure gm tool would be fun to fart around with.
but would you risk 2 years playing time not to mention time of other innocent parties to explore your curiosities, when in fact you could do it without risk to either. come on.
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heath
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The guy is a twat...the people who defend him are twats. He did something very wrong. End of story.
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Depends if you know what 'hacked' means or not which the server admins at Goa probably do and you clearly don't.
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ooooo errrr oooerrrrrrrr errroooo at this point im glad tbh 
i was drunk while this was happening i thought i was going mental standing in emain talking to a pygmy oh well laroma ya git 
i was drunk while this was happening i thought i was going mental standing in emain talking to a pygmy oh well laroma ya git
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trying to blame completly innocent people now moriath....
I know where White Rose gets it ethics from then....
Blejs wasn't defending the actions Laroma and "MrX" did... he just said he liked Laroma as a person and he thinks Laroma should get the chars back...
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Yea well the truth is... id try to choke Laroma if I knew him personally - and Mr X of course - if it weren't for them we'd be happily playing along now - and I'd be happily verifying my Shrouded Isles cd key and actually seeing the expansion...
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Mr_Omen
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tbh i actually agree laroma should get his chars back aswell... if not goa would be just as bad as hackers tbh with all the lies etc
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If someone leaves a downstairs window open at night does it mean the homeowner is at fault if they are robbed?
Simple fact is if this is all true then this MrX and Laroma are both equally culpable. If these people want to take the risk of fucking with a computer system then they should be prepared for the legal consequencies if they get caught.
ignorence is no defense.
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goa is most likely severly pissed off at laroma, which I would be either. Laroma should have either ignored mrX or told goa immediatly everything. She didnt so anything she actually got from goa is them being nice towards her. She wanted her account reoppened, she got that eventhough she did cheat willingly and used stolen information. And this is of course if its all actually true, as it wouldnt be first time someone created a story to get some attention on them.
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And some nastier person could get in instead and delete everybodys charachters
yay
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freeq
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Originally posted by Tilda
And some nastier person could get in instead and delete everybodys charachters
yay
GOA should have back ups of everything anyways, deletion isnt really scary when you think about it, whats the worst that could happen? a rollback, least you still get to play.
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Can we get all the discussion in one thread please? Mods? Someone? Merge threads to general discussion or something... or where ever.
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old.yaruar
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Dunno about france but in the uk it is governed by the computer misuse act (1990)
For instance.....
3.—(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he does any act which causes an unauthorised modification of the contents of any computer; and
(b) at the time when he does the act he has the requisite intent and the requisite knowledge.
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1)(b) above the requisite intent is an intent to cause a modification of the contents of any computer and by so doing—
(a) to impair the operation of any computer;
(b) to prevent or hinder access to any program or data held in any computer; or
(c) to impair the operation of any such program or the reliability of any such data.
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old.yaruar
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What lies? Maybe they could give him his second account back.
As for the characters they should be deleted anyway because by his own admission he used the tools to bump them up.
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coming clean never gets you full amnesty
eg there was this "hacker" (i think he was iranian) and he goes to a congres somewhere in the us to talk about a large security hole he found . When he finished his little presentation the feds are there to pick him up
eg there was this "hacker" (i think he was iranian) and he goes to a congres somewhere in the us to talk about a large security hole he found . When he finished his little presentation the feds are there to pick him up
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Well if Laroma is from the UK then he/she is, by his/her own addmision if it's true, guilty of a criminal act. I can't imagine the French version of the computer misuse act is too much different from ours.
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old.Dillinja
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Mr. X and Laroma both deserve to be taken to court imo. Causing that much damage to a company intentionally just shouldn't be tolerated. Even if it is GOA.
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Sarnat
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The worst part is that WE, the players, pay all the damages in our subscription fee. And we are also the ones who took our share of the damages when we couldn't play. Some of us can't STILL get in game. If that is fully the hacker's fault is a different thing.
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old.moriath
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Well i think its wrong to defend anyone who has , thro his or her actions, seriously impacted a companies business and 1,000's of peoples entertainment.
I'm sure the people who get raped by guys they meet on the net think there nice before the crime or they wouldn't meet them. Just goes to show you can't judge people like that.
And to defend them in public when so many people have been affected negatively just shows poor judgement or lack or social understanding imo.
And for GOA to give that person an account back is imo absolutely unacceptable as there statements are that hackers/cheaters will be banned. They can't say ooo except in this case.
Those are my morals ;-) pull them apart if you like. If you do tho your showing yourself as bad as the hacker. And i use hacker in the sense of unauthorised use of a computer system. Which clearly happened.
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Tilda
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not realy.
He didnt violate the law.
He abused a tool that he got wrongly, but break the law, no.
It was GOA who took rightnow down not him.
He didnt have the knolege to modify GOA's data, presumably Mr X had that.
The way I read that is that Laroma is not guilty and Mr X is.
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He freely admits to putting epic mobs into emain. Now that looks like it comes under
3.—(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he does any act which causes an unauthorised modification of the contents of any computer
3.—(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he does any act which causes an unauthorised modification of the contents of any computer
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cant GOA sue him / her for loss of funds, or what ever the term is?
lots of people have left to go to US servers, people havent been able to subscribe for 3 weeks. although he / she didnt take down the subs etc, that was partly GOA's lack of preparation in security, but if he / she hadnt been stupid in the 1st place none of this woulda happened.
pretty sure if it was my company i have him / her strung up if legally possible, coz he / she deserves nothing less
lots of people have left to go to US servers, people havent been able to subscribe for 3 weeks. although he / she didnt take down the subs etc, that was partly GOA's lack of preparation in security, but if he / she hadnt been stupid in the 1st place none of this woulda happened.
pretty sure if it was my company i have him / her strung up if legally possible, coz he / she deserves nothing less
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Let he who is without sin cast the first rock..