Politics The General Election 2015

[Raven]

Overall control wouldn't have been any different with PR but I think the spread of talking heads in the commons would be better.

 

[Draylor]

Closest idea you'll get is comparing Scottish or Welsh GE results to their devolved parliament results which use a form of PR.

Share of the vote hasnt been dramatically different so far.

 

[ECA]

So I went to bed around 4am, woke up to a tory majority, Blimey then.

Still, clegg, miliband, farage and balls gone is nice, but I feel like this election shows how badly broken FPTP is.

 

[Raven]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5BZuHQcdI


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tFDsL_mwBY

 

[Bodhi]

Woke up this morning and was greeted with lots of bleating from various Labour types on my news feed, claiming it was the end of the world and calling the electorate stupid.

They are a bitter lot aren't they?

Felt a bit sorry for Farage, as the media campaign against him has been, frankly, disgusting. Didn't want UKIP anywhere near power, but Nige would have been amusing in the commons. Felt a bit sorry for Clegg as well, has taken plenty of difficult decisions whilst in power, just didn't big himself up enough in the campaign if you ask me.

But the two Eds and George Galloway? Them going did me make me do a lol. A big one.

Still no idea what to make of Scotland. Number of votes for the SNP looks scarily similar to the number who voted Yes in November, so am still not sure if we can disconnect the SNP and independence, still a bloody impressive result. Yet at times Sturgeon still had a face like thunder last night, presumably that despite their clean sweep in Scotland, they still weren't getting near power as the Tories has taken the rest of the UK. Paves the way for a federal UK though, which I think would be a good thing in the long run.

Never thought I'd see the day though when Scotland returned more Tory MP's than Labour. Is Satan commuting via snowmobile?

 

[Scouse]

Yes, but because PR goverments tend to be coalitions, the fringe parties get to be power brokers and have to be courted by the more centrist parties to get things over the line.

Lest you forget - that's what was due to happen in this FPP election.

PR would give a number of competing loonies a voice - and frankly centrist parties are in need of more radical ideas so courting the loonies would get some good (and bad) stuff in...

How many of those Green / UKIP / Other numbers were protest votes rather than what people actually wanted to vote for?

There'd be less protest voting where people get frustrated because their voice is never going to get heard...

 

[Job]

The reason Labour failed is because of Ed Miliband...full stop.
I'd love to see that idiot M'cluskys face as he watched his little pet fall off a cliff.

 

[Tom]

The online lefty rage over what's happened is hilarious.

"Fucking media controlling our democracy!"

"Fucking lying Tories!"

"Fucking stupid population are so stupid!"

Basically, blame everyone and everything except the people who lost.

 

[Bodhi]

Best one I've heard is that because all voting was done in pencil, they were just rubbing out Labour X's and putting them next to the Tories.

Yes, of course petal. That's EXACTLY what just happened.

 

[Ceixah]

Waking up to all the call from labourites screaming goodbye NHS and "i'm moving to ...." has been the highlight of an otherwise pretty boring friday

Also huge kudos to FH, out poll stated Tories would win and lo and behold! Clearly we're the backbone of this country!

 

[Raven]

Its because most of us work in the real world.

 

[Job]

LOL at Russell Brand...epic backpeddling using the 'they made me do it' excuse.
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/...-ed-miliband-labour-comedian#comment-51783872

 

[Zarjazz]

Also huge kudos to FH, out poll stated Tories would win and lo and behold! Clearly we're the backbone of this country!

I think that's an indication of how badly wrong the pollsters have been in the last month rather than how amazing accurate FH was

 

[Bodhi]

Even the Guardian are at it (not that I'm surprised).

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...5-stuart-heritage-nine-reasons-to-be-cheerful

 

[Trem]

It's not so much Miliband that's the problem but Blair and Brown. Why can't Labour see that and blame them?

As usual Stoke have voted Labour again because of all the ex miners in the area. Silly people.

 

[Bodhi]

It's not so much Miliband that's the problem but Blair and Brown. Why can't Labour see that and blame them?

As usual Stoke have voted Labour again because of all the ex miners in the area. Silly people.

You do realise that posting your opinion twice like that in a General Election will get you......a nice majority in Tower Hamlets I expect

 

[Trem]

Bloody phone! I blame the pencil I used to write it.

 

[Scouse]

Even the Guardian are at it (not that I'm surprised).

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...5-stuart-heritage-nine-reasons-to-be-cheerful

Lol. Hardly. Just read it. It's quite a funny article.

 

[Gwadien]

I don't like her.

I noticed she wasn't really around during the election campaign.

Now she's going to come back screaming about muslims or something.

 

[Raven]

The idiot racist at work said that he spoiled his council ballot after ticking the Tory box when he noticed the guys name was "Something" Islam. "I'm not voting for a fucking terrorist"

He had never heard of the SNP either...

 

[Gwadien]

Stuff like this:

Asked whether interception of communications would be a priority after Liberal Democrat ministers blocked the so-called "snoopers' charter" in the last Parliament, Mrs May added: "That is certainly going to be a key issue for us.

"We have made very clear that we want to ensure that our security services and our law enforcement agencies have the capabilities they need to keep us safe and secure."

From the beeb.

Basically 'We have made it very clear that we want to spy on you, those pesky lib dems didn't want us to, so yeah, it's a key issue to get the snoopers' charter passed!

 

[Bodhi]

Aye, it kind of appears the choice this election was Snooper's Charter vs Thought Police.

 

[old.user4556]

@Scouse - back on Jim Murphy now I can type more, this sums it up:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/2mlstk/why_do_you_hate_jim_murphy/

Abstaining from voting in the bedroom tax, supporting the warmongering cunts Bliar Brown, fiddling his expenses, patronising tone of voice, hideously and insultingly false interest in Scotland for the actual interest of propping up his mates at Westminster. We weren't hoodwinked by his "look, I really give a fuck about the Scottish working man!" when his history preceded him and they suffered for it by being utterly destroyed in Scotland. He's got a fucking cheek not to resign.

The amusing irony is that even if every single seat in Scotland voted Labour, then they'd still lose, because Ed Miliband is a fucking bed wetter.

Edited to stop @Big G looking like a fanny (simply a grammatical error and a request by G to correct it)

 

[Gwadien]

Do you feel that if he was leader 10 years ago, his reception would be a little bit better?

I mean, it can't be easy to lead the losing party.

 

[old.user4556]

I said exactly that to a colleague today: the Labour party were going into the ground like a fucking dart across the UK regardless, so it was a tall order for anyone to come in and take control and turn it around. Perhaps that's why he's staying on.

Perhaps if he was leader a decade ago, but let's be honest, Ed and Labour were doomed.

 

[Gwadien]

I said exactly that to a colleague today: the Labour party were going into the ground like a fucking dart across the UK regardless, so it was a tall order for anyone to come in and take control and turn it around. Perhaps that's why he's staying on.

Perhaps if he was leader a decade ago, but let's be honest, Ed and Labour were doomed.

I mean, watching him the other day on Question Time, he was bloody impressive.

Frankly, and no disrespect to yourself, but when you're amidst anti-labour feeling, I guess it's easier to exaggerate something such as someones personality because it's status quo to be a h8er.

But I guess since he's already been a victim of it, it's kind of useless trying to salvage that element of being Scottish.

 

[old.user4556]

He comes across as a good speaker, but when you get to know who he really is and where his loyalties lies, it's just false.

 

[Raven]

Its like going over to a bunch of hot chicks with a mate and he blurts out, hey, nice tits, shame about the face!

No matter what you do you ain't going to get your dick wet.

 

[russell]

Not the result I thought we would get. Glad the 3 have resigned, but surely they are just the main puppets- it's the advisors behind them that caused the fuck ups ultimately.

 

[Raven]

I think its a pretty good tactic from the powers that be at labour.

Put a drip in charge of labour as a fall guy, come out with some comedy items in your campaign, the Russell Brand skit (getting him to talk like a badman was genius), the gravestone skit, the burger eating skit etc, etc.

Labour know they would be terrible at governing when the economy is as it is (and was at the last election) so better to be in opposition for now, they need a good strong economy to chip away at for a few years so they don't get found out straight away.

The real Milliband to help Hilary Clinton win the US elections then come back as Labour leader in a couple of years to win the UK election.