The future of EU DAoC

[Aeatan]

Heh. About SI & ToA's performance..
well.. that's because of Mythic's buggy code. Performance issues get fixed in 1.69 & 1.70.

My computer cant handle TOA unless its upgraded

ATM 2.0 Ghz Athlon Processor, 768 MB Ram and a Radeon 9600 128 MB Graphics card. Loading time from zones = about 2 minutes, occasional fps lag in rvr and toa (red triangle thing) and computer crashes very often with only 1 toa client running... Cant even use mirc while playing daoc now :/

Never buying a shitty Radeon graphics card ever again.

There's definatly something else wrong. Got all the latest drivers? (videocard & chipset), and updates?

 

[Ctuchik]

You mean the game evolves? *keels over in a faint*
noo not a new grafic engine? EEK
Your saying our 7 year old mashines cant play the game? *screams in horror*

I have played this game for 2 years non stop ( *sobs* yes please forward a life asap) In that time I have heard,at every new addition and patch people complain and throwing themselves on their swords because of the EWUL deeds of mythic by changing the game.

But lets all face it. DAOC is unique it has something to offer Different typs of people( pve and pvp) it even made a system where people cheer and smile once a green bar reaches its end (crafting).

Yes there issues that I think mythic needs to address, ( AE stun and AE insta Stun WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??!?! LOL ) but the HEART of the Game is still intact.
By the Heart I mean the special blend of everything, it is basicly your choise what you do when you log on.

ooh look a cookie *munches* hmm where was I oh yes.

The Game moves on, and it has to adapt to a generation of new players who didnt doodle with their Commadore 64. Please dont say that we should all go back to the good old " 8-bit" days. I have played those and I AINT going back LOL.

New Frontiers is not the doom of DAOC but the saving grace. Getting people out from the Dungeons and out in the open where the " enemy" has a REAL Intelligence, has moods swings and bad hair days ( please dont tell me im the only one with bad hair days)

When ToA hit I had people in my guild singing the doom song ( from invader Zim) for DAOC and I suddenly understood why. After playing a game for 2 years and you know Every damn aspect of the game. Your a veteran, You suddenly dont know ANYTHING. Your a ToA N00b and that Bugs you.

I Suspect that is the same with NF. Suddenly everybody is "New". The old maps and hidding places are useless, the edge you had of KNOWING where to hide and where the enemy was hiding is gone.

We didnt realy need ToA but if DAOC is going to survive patches like New Frontiers are a must.

Its a Adventure Im looking forward to taking part in.

Veni Vidi N00bi!

Dimse Dut
Guildmaster of Uranicus Phalanx

*Wipes a tear from his eye*

that was beautiful..

 

[Xplo]

What the guy above said, renewal of the game makes it a bit more interesting from time to time

 

[Elitestoner]

Originally Posted by Garnet

My computer cant handle TOA unless its upgraded

ATM 2.0 Ghz Athlon Processor, 768 MB Ram and a Radeon 9600 128 MB Graphics card. Loading time from zones = about 2 minutes, occasional fps lag in rvr and toa (red triangle thing) and computer crashes very often with only 1 toa client running... Cant even use mirc while playing daoc now :/

Never buying a shitty Radeon graphics card ever again.

there is definetly something very wrong there, my pc is pretty much the same thing, my processor is 2ghz p4 and i have 1 gig ram but graphics card is the same thing

i am currently running 2x TOA accounts, msn, 3 internet explorers and windows media player. no crashes, no freezes, no problems. i would be lying if i said it was a smooth operation because theres a lot of shit running loading times are fast and in rvr unless i meet fo zerg all 3 circles stay green.

 

[Morchaoron]

My computer cant handle TOA unless its upgraded

ATM 2.0 Ghz Athlon Processor, 768 MB Ram and a Radeon 9600 128 MB Graphics card. Loading time from zones = about 2 minutes, occasional fps lag in rvr and toa (red triangle thing) and computer crashes very often with only 1 toa client running... Cant even use mirc while playing daoc now :/

Never buying a shitty Radeon graphics card ever again.

most fps lag is actually a RAM thing...

since i tripled my ram to 1,5gb loading time is less then 10 seconds on each zone and all fps lockups are gone too, however, the framerate itself is still not 'optimal' (only have a radeon 8500), but no more lockups when something big is inc or you turn to face a zerg...

however i still think its stupid you need a 'far above average' amount of ram to play the game as its supposed to work, and it looks like NF will require me to get a new graphics card ><

 

[Garnet]

Herbal we all cant afford a uber computer like you unfortunately Maybe I should clean my computer and maybe buy some more RAM.

 

[Herbal]

Herbal we all cant afford a uber computer like you unfortunately Maybe I should clean my computer and maybe buy some more RAM.

Get a job then u lazy bum? :wub:

 

[Ferengi]

When ToA hit I had people in my guild singing the doom song ( from invader Zim) for DAOC and I suddenly understood why. After playing a game for 2 years and you know Every damn aspect of the game. Your a veteran, You suddenly dont know ANYTHING. Your a ToA N00b and that Bugs you.

Maybe they sang cuz it was so damn time consuming and if u didnt get 4+ artis ud be nada in rvr... I quit about 4 months ago cuz of what toa did to rvr. At the time I had played for 2 years.
Regarding the new expansion... Well it could be fun trying it, but then again they (mythic) havent gone back to old days so I wont be spending some xtra dough on it. Think id rather wait for MEO or even wow. have fun with the new expansion.

 

[Tholus]

When I created my BM two and half years ago there was no such gimps as BMs.

After determination BMs were good for RvR.

Now there will be hard time of non-fotmness again, perhaps.....

And who cares?
I am glad for a lot of hybrids and archers.
I have seen sooo many excellent players left out from RvR invites becouse they were not fotm det tanks.

I will do what they did in the last year or two.
I will adapt.
I will keep fighting and defend my realm.
I will not roll a fotm char.

That is the hard life of a harsh soldier

</RP off >

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Dimse Dut :worthy:
Best reply to this dungsmelling whine from Sigurd!
Yes we see you don't like it Sigurd, but that doesn't make you god with the power to tell us that we shouldn't like it! Now go get a life or sumthing!

 

[Marath]

My computer cant handle TOA unless its upgraded

ATM 2.0 Ghz Athlon Processor, 768 MB Ram and a Radeon 9600 128 MB Graphics card. Loading time from zones = about 2 minutes, occasional fps lag in rvr and toa (red triangle thing) and computer crashes very often with only 1 toa client running... Cant even use mirc while playing daoc now :/

Never buying a shitty Radeon graphics card ever again.

Hate to tell it to you but theres something else prolly wrong with your comp. Last time you reinstalled OS ? As I got lover stats (just gf4 ti4800) and its working fine on old comp. Upgrading it to 3.0Ghz and 1gig of ram didnt actually do any noticeable change.

Oh and my AMD k6-2 450 with 398MB Ram and gf3 ti4200 loads zones depending on areas 2-5minutes (longer on DV) and doesnt crash... like ever.

Or its just might be the radeon. :worthy: And seriously change your graphic drivers. I just got the newest drivers for my card and not only does daoc work like crap other games crash on it.

Id say: Drivers->reinstall OS-> get more ram.

 

[Aeatan]

Just don't forget to make sure you have the latest chipset drivers too!
http://www.intel.com
http://www.viaarena.com

 

[Dimse Dut]

Maybe they sang cuz it was so damn time consuming and if u didnt get 4+ artis ud be nada in rvr... I quit about 4 months ago cuz of what toa did to rvr. At the time I had played for 2 years.
Regarding the new expansion... Well it could be fun trying it, but then again they (mythic) havent gone back to old days so I wont be spending some xtra dough on it. Think id rather wait for MEO or even wow. have fun with the new expansion.

Well Ferengi ( WOOhoo go Trekkies) My lvl 50 paladin met a ranger in sauvage, the Ranger was in shade ( so he must have had a artifact) and he had the advantage of First strike. My Paladin ( little hopping Rhonvan, doesnt have a artifact, and she wasnt buffed, she wears a mix of armor and she is so old that when I created her I poured all the points into piety. HEY it was one of their main stats at the time so stop laughing at me heh)
Well He Jumped her and thought MWUAHAHA you ickle Alb you must die now. But to his suprise he died =/ and his buffs cascaded of his corpse.


After that I deciden Im not getting artifacts, Im not spedding a week of camping then 3 weeks of lvling and item ( those numbers I just grabed out of the air) the only artifact I have is kalara's necklace on my cleric and that thing is only getting lvled in Rvr.

So ferengi do Like me and pity the poor sods who do have a need for artifacts to kill stuff *chuckle*

As For New Frontiers is a free download so if you suddenly feel the urge to rejoin the lot of lost souls who still find DAOC a good game you dont have to pay to run around in NF =D



Dimse Dut
Guildmaster of Urnaicus Phalanx

 

[old.Whoodoo]

While I do see the obvious pitfalls in NF, ranging from the new engine to the silly one way hills, its new, and therefore people are going to whine just as much as they have with every patch thats ever come out. Nerfed this, improved that, overpowered this and whatever. I do think rather than feck around with the RA system, and turn the zones into Venice, I still maintain they should have got it right with what we have now rather than scrap it all and start again.

But I have no doubt that NF will bring a lot of good to the game. New challenges are much needed or the game gets stale and old, yes there are degrees of change, and this time I think theres a little too much in one go.

As for the PC spec issue, I run TOA on a laptop with a 1.3 Sillyron processor, MX440 shared memory GFX, 256 memory etc etc fine, yes it lags and sometimes LDs on zoning, but for the majority its fine.

With a 2Ghz proc and 512 memory you should fly in DAoC ToA easily, Id say you got some stuff running in the background you really dont need. Pr0n downloads or something perhaps? Check the Techy section to see what others say about poor performance, Im sure you have something amiss there.

 

[Sigurd]

Ok Sigurd you obviously aint listening.
Your pc is NOT average, your pc is crap. GF3's were out somewhere in 2001 afink, thats 3 years ago..
I am using a fairly up to date gfx card and have no lag at all. It is not mythics programing its YOUR pc.
Oh, and please give me mythic statistics to show people are quiting.

Fuck off with that. My PC is fine, it handles ToA fine, handles every other game fine. Geforce 3s are actually faster than 4s, you're playing on a lower population server anyway, there's bound to be less lag. The point is Mythic, being *****, can't design expansion packs for average computers (and yes I think you'll find most people don't have the latest PCs, I know Mummy and Daddy probably buy you the latest crap every few months...) because a large proportion of their playerbase are powergaming twats with no life who will happily spend most of their father's inheritence on a new computer to continue their addiction.

 

[Influenza]

My computer cant handle TOA unless its upgraded

ATM 2.0 Ghz Athlon Processor, 768 MB Ram and a Radeon 9600 128 MB Graphics card. Loading time from zones = about 2 minutes, occasional fps lag in rvr and toa (red triangle thing) and computer crashes very often with only 1 toa client running... Cant even use mirc while playing daoc now :/

Never buying a shitty Radeon graphics card ever again.

What motherboard are you using?

 

[Sigurd]

You mean the game evolves? *keels over in a faint*
noo not a new grafic engine? EEK
Your saying our 7 year old mashines cant play the game? *screams in horror*

I have played this game for 2 years non stop ( *sobs* yes please forward a life asap) In that time I have heard,at every new addition and patch people complain and throwing themselves on their swords because of the EWUL deeds of mythic by changing the game.

But lets all face it. DAOC is unique it has something to offer Different typs of people( pve and pvp) it even made a system where people cheer and smile once a green bar reaches its end (crafting).

Yes there issues that I think mythic needs to address, ( AE stun and AE insta Stun WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??!?! LOL ) but the HEART of the Game is still intact.
By the Heart I mean the special blend of everything, it is basicly your choise what you do when you log on.

ooh look a cookie *munches* hmm where was I oh yes.

The Game moves on, and it has to adapt to a generation of new players who didnt doodle with their Commadore 64. Please dont say that we should all go back to the good old " 8-bit" days. I have played those and I AINT going back LOL.

New Frontiers is not the doom of DAOC but the saving grace. Getting people out from the Dungeons and out in the open where the " enemy" has a REAL Intelligence, has moods swings and bad hair days ( please dont tell me im the only one with bad hair days)

When ToA hit I had people in my guild singing the doom song ( from invader Zim) for DAOC and I suddenly understood why. After playing a game for 2 years and you know Every damn aspect of the game. Your a veteran, You suddenly dont know ANYTHING. Your a ToA N00b and that Bugs you.

I Suspect that is the same with NF. Suddenly everybody is "New". The old maps and hidding places are useless, the edge you had of KNOWING where to hide and where the enemy was hiding is gone.

We didnt realy need ToA but if DAOC is going to survive patches like New Frontiers are a must.

Its a Adventure Im looking forward to taking part in.

Veni Vidi N00bi!

Dimse Dut
Guildmaster of Uranicus Phalanx

LOL you can't even begin to compare any of the old patches to NF. NF changes RvR COMPLETELY, it is unrecognizable - it's basically a different game. There is no open field now, this is all about sieges. This is different from the previous expansions in that it is essential if you wish to play RvR. So... basically the game has evolved, you're right - it's evolved from a velociraptor to a chicken.

Anyone else who thinks I'm flaming their precious game here - all I'm doing is telling you what NF is like, if you can't face it, I suggest you quit now.

 

[CliffyG]

GF3's are faster than 4's but only GF4 MX's which are the lowest of the low of GF4's. No GF3's can match a GF4 Ti4200 in todays games, it's unfortunate but times change and anyone who wants to play new games / add-ons must be prepared to have to upgrade their machine every few years.

As to NF i think i'll wait and see for myself instead of listening to your blinkered rants . I'm pretty sure the game is not doomed as is always said before big patches / add-ons.

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Anyone else who thinks I'm flaming their precious game here - all I'm doing is telling you what NF is like, if you can't face it, I suggest you quit now.

No you're not. You are telling us how YOU precieve NF! And while doing it you are acting like an 8 year old crying "I'm right and you are wrong just because I say so". but then you could be 8 years old for all I know...
It has been said before: These "DAoC is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED" threads are so old, and this one will prolly prove as wrong as the once concerning SI and ToA.

Oh and Sigurd: DAoC isn't "our" game. It's Mythics. Says so in eula and coc and what have you. don't like it? Quit, don't whine!

 

[Moriath]

LOL you can't even begin to compare any of the old patches to NF. NF changes RvR COMPLETELY, it is unrecognizable - it's basically a different game. There is no open field now, this is all about sieges. This is different from the previous expansions in that it is essential if you wish to play RvR. So... basically the game has evolved, you're right - it's evolved from a velociraptor to a chicken.

Anyone else who thinks I'm flaming their precious game here - all I'm doing is telling you what NF is like, if you can't face it, I suggest you quit now.

Your always a doom sayer Sigurd .. its always the people who are unhappy who are the most vocal.

Let us find out for ourselves as its free expansion anyway. And what ever you think your pc is very last year ...

 

[Sigurd]

No you're not. You are telling us how YOU precieve NF! And while doing it you are acting like an 8 year old crying "I'm right and you are wrong just because I say so". but then you could be 8 years old for all I know...
It has been said before: These "DAoC is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED" threads are so old, and this one will prolly prove as wrong as the once concerning SI and ToA.

Oh and Sigurd: DAoC isn't "our" game. It's Mythics. Says so in eula and coc and what have you. don't like it? Quit, don't whine!

No, I'm telling you the facts. If you'd played this piece of crap you'd realize that. The game is our game, as far as Mythic need us to be in buisness - the players make the designers, and as we're continuing to pay money, this is even more evident in this game. Blind optimism will get you nowhere... NF will destroy DAoC.

 

[CliffyG]

No, I'm telling you the facts. If you'd played this piece of crap you'd realize that. The game is our game, as far as Mythic need us to be in buisness - the players make the designers, and as we're continuing to pay money, this is even more evident in this game. Blind optimism will get you nowhere... NF will destroy DAoC.

Yet you play on . Honestly if you hate the game so much why not just stop playing, i suppose some people just love moaning.

 

[Teh FnoRd]

No, I'm telling you the facts. If you'd played this piece of crap you'd realize that. The game is our game, as far as Mythic need us to be in buisness - the players make the designers, and as we're continuing to pay money, this is even more evident in this game. Blind optimism will get you nowhere... NF will destroy DAoC.

You are definitly not given us any down to basic facts anywhere, only "this is like that and it sux because I say so" and thus discarded as silly whine! :kissit:
And please don't be as naive as to think that the whole world shares your view on everything.
Sure if you wanna say your piece on NF, but DON'T include everyone else in that view. let us try it for ourself and make up our own minds thank you very much!
No cheese for you Sigurd!

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Yet you play on . Honestly if you hate the game so much why not just stop playing, i suppose some people just love moaning.

AttensionWh**e perhaps? ^^
and lol we're playing it right in his hands!

 

[Sigurd]

Are you blind? You think I made up stuff like "steep ground" etc.? If anything you should view my initial post as an objective review, as I could say a lot worse things about NF...

And, Haedric - I still play this game because I enjoy the older aspects of it, before Mythic bastardised the whole thing. I know, that you personally find it hard to enjoy something unless you're, say, playing a level 50 character in an "uber 1337" RvR group, but... lol they don't exist in NF any more, so you'd better learn to enjoy other aspects of the game if you want to continue playing...

 

[Svartmetall]

Well NF doesn't affect PvE so I don't care.

PvE > RvR.

...

 

[CliffyG]

Are you blind? You think I made up stuff like "steep ground" etc.? If anything you should view my initial post as an objective review, as I could say a lot worse things about NF...

And, Haedric - I still play this game because I enjoy the older aspects of it, before Mythic bastardised the whole thing. I know, that you personally find it hard to enjoy something unless you're, say, playing a level 50 character in an "uber 1337" RvR group, but... lol they don't exist in NF any more, so you'd better learn to enjoy other aspects of the game if you want to continue playing...

Keep whining , can just imagine you stamping your feet too . Sadly your assumptions of me have more than missed the mark but never mind eh. Little hint though, HO sorc = not uber leet or however you want to spell it.

 

[Axuk]

all I'm doing is telling you what NF is like, if you can't face it, I suggest you quit now.

Erm actually no you are not.. you are telling us YOUR personal perception of NF and your opinion on it. What's more, you are trying to ram it down our throats, and the more obvious it becomes that not everyone agrees with you, the harder you are trying to ram.

As to the last part of your advice, if the state of NF as you see it is upsetting you that much then you would be wise to take your own advice and save yourself having a thrombie

It would appear that most people here prefer to take the sensible attitude that they will wait and see what NF is like for themselves before they make any decisions about it.

 

[Teh FnoRd]

Keep whining , can just imagine you stamping your feet too .

Made me giggle irl

 

[Kreig]

Sigard

I think you fail to realise that the American Servers arent as populated as the european servers purely becuase they have too many servers and the poulation is spread thinner overall.

Excaliber and Prydwen are THE most activate RvR servers in the world. Now with that information we can deduce that your argument of NF being purely Seige warfar is somewhat bias, most of the "Hardcore l33t" RvRers as its so commanly put imo will probley participate in Seiges as much as they do currently. Which isnt as much as they in reality want compaired to 1fg VS 1fg fights with other opted grps.

Now bearing inmind that all three realms have these groups of individuals and guilds, i think that if NF seiges arent particualarly generous in RPs etc those said players will look elsewhere for there source of engagments.

That probley means that those players will roam popular keep routes/landing zones etc and target players intending to attack keeps. Ambushing/Rear attacking etc. Or target other "elite" groups from the enemy realms with teh same ideas as them.


So what if there are silly little hills that are too steep to climb... IRL you get silly little hills that are too steep to climb... Cleaver players will use these points to there advantage, perhaps attacking grps from a certain angle leaving them no room for manoverabilty and less chance for support classes to move into better position.

Its the same as IRL warfar throught the centurys has always favoured combatants with a stratigic advatange in some aspect or another.



TBH the doom and gloom im always hearing from the Americans and players therin is utter bullshit. A) Its ALWAYS over-hyped, by the time we get it in the euro servers all the crap thats being spouted on VN boards and other out lets is complete rubbish and not nearly as bad as the kiddies that play over there make out.

B) Well like many have put already, the game is evolving constantly each day we play, new ideas/tactics/FotM ism's all come and go like various clothing and music trends. So as far as that goes, yea sometimes things arent perfect or how "You" personally like them but "others" might and thus the community goes forward.

C) I read the tech support forums and any related threads all the time, what Lags for one person in one situation is very stable and fast for another with a similar computer spec's. More often than not its untidy computers ( ie junk/clutter etc)/Badly updated or just unlucky combo of hardware/software that perhaps bottlenecks performance at certian instances. Thats even before we start talking about ISPs hops and crappy open transit connections.


And if i remember rightly? Your scaninavian right Sig, well when i play on US servers from uk from various games i get a poorer connection obviously than i do to GOA and thats on a 1mb line hardly slow for gaming. All these things need to be taken into consideration before posting half arsed ramblings.


Not to mention that CYFR plays on US servers and has completly contradictory views to your own in this thread. Go away rethink you arguments and perhaps admit that you have been overzelous and have been bais based on BAD personal experience.... That is afterall individual and not a general consensis of teh community at large. Ive seen many inteligent replys to your statements but you have still yet to show any HARD evidence of these events, IE players en-mass quiting etc....