Football The 2009/2010 Season Thread

[Gray]

Seen this on another forum, boy, Arsenal fans and Arsene might be pissed

UEFA DIVING CLAMPDOWN ENDS WITH EDUARDO
Posted 03/09/09 08:38EmailPrintSave



UEFA's supposed clampdown on diving has been brought to a halt after just one case.


In an admission that is bound to further infuriate Arsenal after Eduardo was suspended for two matches for diving, the governing body has, reports The Times, 'confirmed that there are no plans to institute a regular programme of video referral for matches under its jurisdiction or issue an anti-diving directive'.


Rather than set a precedent that UEFA are determined to follow, the charge and subsequent banning of Eduardo is thus set to remain an arbitrary one-off, principally motivated by what The Times calls an 'unfortunate series of coincidences'. It would appear, as F365 reported at the time, that Eduardo has only been singled out because he committed his dive in a match against Scottish opponents broadcast on free-for-all television on a day of the week when no other high-profile games were being played.


'Article 10 (1c), which was introduced by Uefa as a consequence of the furore that followed Rivaldo's feigning antics when playing for Brazil in the 2002 World Cup, exists to punish the worst offenders, but there is no appetite at Uefa to mount a wholesale campaign against diving through the retrospective use of video technology,' reports the newspaper.


Arsenal have still yet to decide whether to appeal against Eduardo's suspension, with the governing body unable to provide the club with the rationale for banning the Croatian until later today. To date, all UEFA have faxed to the club is a single paragraph of text that reads, 'Having examined all the documents of the case which the player charged had likewise examined the control and disciplinary body decides that the player Eduardo is suspended for two Uefa club competition matches.'


The anomaly in that judgement is that Eduardo has been suspended for an offence that the rulebook stipulates should only receive a caution. Any hope that the governing body would issue an amendment to instigate a wider clampdown has, unfortunately, already been dashed. 'Although Eduardo's suspension is similar to that which might accompany a red card, Uefa will not now ask referees to send players off for such offences,' reports The Guardian.


While the news will meet with general disappointment, Uefa's handling of the Eduardo case perhaps suggests that their withdrawal is just as well. Of the two faxes sent to Arsenal on the matter, one failed to arrive and the other was sent to the offices of Arsenal Ladies at the club's Hertfordshire training ground.

Arsene himself said they where opening a can of worms doing this when it happened, but for them to not follow through on any potential new cases in the future is a bit naughty of them... Unless its just English clubs which are being singled out

 

[megadave]

An agreement? As in a legally binding contract? Nope, didn't happen bud. A verbal agreement is generally not legally enforceable as such unless there are extenuating circumstances and/or corroborating witnesses.

Turns out Kakuta was 15 when we signed him, therefore too young for a professional contract and was on the same ‘non-solicitation’ agreement as Pogba.

 

[cHodAX]

Turns out Kakuta was 15 when we signed him, therefore too young for a professional contract and was on the same ‘non-solicitation’ agreement as Pogba.

Well then we need to wait for all the facts to be revealed then bud, FIFA seem convinced you did something wrong but as far as I am concerned if it turns out that the boy wasn't on a professional contract then he is fair game according to rules at the time of signing. If that does turn out to be the case then Chelsea are being made a scapegoat and I will vocally support them on the matter.

 

[megadave]

It might not be the same type of contract, but either way he definately didnt have a proper professional contract since he was 15.

 

[Ch3tan]

Chelsea have been slaughtered in the papers today.

 

[megadave]

^ Nothing new there.


Have you two seen this?

Manchester United could face similar transfer ban to Chelsea | Football - Times Online

 

[Bahumat]

^ Nothing new there.


Have you two seen this?

Manchester United could face similar transfer ban to Chelsea | Football - Times Online

I just heard off my informant that Oasis caught Alex Ferguson fucking in the bushes!

 

[leviathane]

Ba dum diss

 

[Everz]

Fuck internationals.. tbh

 

[megadave]

yeah, lack of football has got me bored

 

[soze]

Seen this on another forum, boy, Arsenal fans and Arsene might be pissed



Arsene himself said they where opening a can of worms doing this when it happened, but for them to not follow through on any potential new cases in the future is a bit naughty of them... Unless its just English clubs which are being singled out

Arsenal have seemingly submitted over 100 videos of professionals deceiving the ref and asking what Uefa say about it. But a few reports suggest a certain french twat pushed this though to forward a personal agenda and now he has done that it will be stopped.

I do think though that if nothing is done to other players who dive it is shocking.

 

[Lethul]

Same Interesting game for Sweden tomorrow tho. To bad i miss it cause of work

 

[Everz]

yeah, lack of football has got me bored

idd :<

 

[Urgluf]

get a life..

and belgium is going to get his ass kicked by spain

 

[cHodAX]

^ Nothing new there.


Have you two seen this?

Manchester United could face similar transfer ban to Chelsea | Football - Times Online

Again we will have to wait and see, from what I have read no professional contract was in place and United compensated Le Harve for his training costs thus far. I don't see how we induced him to break a contract when he hadn't signed professional papers.

 

[Talivar]

Its all getting confusing atm, the way they talking is that both chelsea and united lured away minors from their clubs. As said before we will have to wait to see all the details

 

[Ch3tan]

Yeah we both did, the sticking point here is that apparently we did it within the rules (full of flaws as they are) and you did not.

To be honest Chelsea should just be fined and Lens given a fair value for the player, and FIFA and UEFA should rewrite the rules to stop young players being exploited or fought over by clubs.

 

[soze]

I think Uefa were talking about stopping "free" transfers before the age of 18 or 21 I can't remember which i read. That could help stop some of this kind of problem and means the parent clubs get some money for their work.

 

[Talivar]

Thing is tho club united got player from is going through same motions as lens did to chelsea and claiming same things. Its united that say they did it all above board in same way chelsea deny doing any wrong and are going to appeal. The problem lies with the silly way the FIFA rule is worded, no proof is needed just need a youth to leave club early then join anoither club.

 

[Ch3tan]

Not at all Talivar, we had a complain filed against us and it was not followed up as we did not actually break the rules.

 

[cHodAX]

both chelsea and united lured away minors from their clubs

lol the filthy buggers

 

[Talivar]

Well according to available evidence we didnt break rules either, its a presumption that fits the fifa rule, and its because of this ruling you also being looked at again. At a wild guess they appealing the decision to try get u punished in same way chelsea appealing to try get away with it. Imo in the end neither of us will end up being punished except for the chelsea fine.

 

[Ch3tan]

Well according to available evidence we didnt break rules either, its a presumption that fits the fifa rule, and its because of this ruling you also being looked at again. At a wild guess they appealing the decision to try get u punished in same way chelsea appealing to try get away with it. Imo in the end neither of us will end up being punished except for the chelsea fine.

Once again, the fifa rule was not used in this judgement as far as I understand it. The DRC ruled against chelsea after considering the facts. They did not simply impose a penalty on you after two years without gathering any facts.

 

[megadave]

Not at all Talivar, we had a complain filed against us and it was not followed up as we did not actually break the rules.

Wouldnt be so sure, according to La Havre, Pogba was on the same contract type as Kakuta and they have evidence of this. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Doubt anything will come of it.

 

[Talivar]

Ch3tan i know but i dont think you realise that le havre havent dropepd it and are appealing or trying again in light of recent chelsea decision. Its not about the decision made at time its about fact they trying again now and trying to point out their player was on same style contract as lens player.

 

[megadave]

Also can you link to where it says La havre filled a case and were turned away? Statement from the club just says the intend to file the case but havent yet

 

[Talivar]

It all remidns me of a witch hunt where everyone will crawl out of woodwork now and try drag down as many teams as possible lol. Bit like when all the people come forward and try claim they had an affair with a celebrity. Well kinda like that lol

 

[Genedril]

It all remidns me of a witch hunt where everyone will crawl out of woodwork now and try drag down as many teams as possible lol. Bit like when all the people come forward and try claim they had an affair with a celebrity. Well kinda like that lol

I was poached from Man Utd to play for my local rugby club at an early age. I shall sue everyone!!!! Then I'll sell my story to the papers & make even more money.


.... Umm do I absolutely need to have sex in my story to sell it to the tabloids? I don't think I could stomach making up 'sex with Fergie etc' stories.

Back on football - I completely forgot to gloat about the victory over Derby last w/e. Probably 'cause I was in the pub.

 

[Wonk]

huarh, just got home! Niiiicklaaas Beeeendtneeeer

 

[CorNokZ]

Shame we didn't get all 3pts, but I was still cheering when the ref made the final whistle