Football The 2009/2010 Season Thread

[megadave]

Why does Dorimor keep coming back? go back to thidranki and wank over carrick

 

[Mauness]

Woeful? Do you seriously think Sir Alex Ferguson would play him if he played woeful in most of his games? Or is it that you know better than Sir Alex? I mean, let's think logically about this.

He played veron and forlan alot


Whats people opinion of huddlestone, think he's going to be a big player for england in the future.

 

[megadave]

How the fuck is Carrick more effective than Lampard? Lampard has consistently been one of the top 3 most productive players in the league for over five years.

Dorimor your blind love for Man Utd is boring and stupid, you put the other intelligent fans on this forums to shame.

Just fuck off and don't come back.

 

[Raven]

For the most part Carrick is gash. He has the odd awesome game though. Not really suitable for a knock out tournament.

 

[megadave]

Turam, do you know who won't be fit for our game this weekend?

 

[Turamber]

Turam, do you know who won't be fit for our game this weekend?

Petrov is carrying an injury but will probably play, ditto Milner and Dunne, for at least part of the game(?). Gabby was injured last week at the Wigan game but is said to be close to fitness. Heskey looked in a bad way last night, can't imagine he will be fit.

Unlikely that Reo-Coker or Delph will feature as they both have knocks too, and the official site isn't even updating us on their condition.

Its a hard one to call at the weekend, I'd be tempted to give Petrov et al a rest and play some reserves, but I think MON will probably play all of our walking wounded and then talk about how tired they were after a 4-0 thrashing.

 

[cHodAX]

He played veron and forlan alot


Whats people opinion of huddlestone, think he's going to be a big player for england in the future.

Forlan was good, just wasn't played enough to gain full confidence. Veron was our best player in the CL for 2 seasons in a row, he just couldn't adapt to the pace of English football and Fergie lost patience. Neither player was a total failure, that is just media bullshit based on price tags.

 

[Mauness]

Forlan was good, just wasn't played enough to gain full confidence. Veron was our best player in the CL for 2 seasons in a row, he just couldn't adapt to the pace of English football and Fergie lost patience. Neither player was a total failure, that is just media bullshit based on price tags.

Im not a utd fan, and dont listen to the media crap either, but from general concensus i got from other utd fans was the veron was a failure and they just grew to like forlan lol

 

[Corran]

Im not a utd fan, and dont listen to the media crap either, but from general concensus i got from other utd fans was the veron was a failure and they just grew to like forlan lol

Most united fans are absolutely clueless though (well tbh most supporters of football are clueless as you can tell by sitting in any stadium in the world during a game).
In other words, just because some fans say it doesnt mean it true. They probably relied on TheSun to inform them what was happening with the team

 

[Calaen]

As long as Alex can stay fit i'm not really too fussed, i think this 606 comment sums it up nicely

"This season most of the goals we've conceded have been from set pieces and Ricardo Carvalho is at fault for 90% of them"

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I have to disagree, look at the Everton match against Saha as an example he was caught out on 4 occasion with the ball in the air, and it was only highlighted because he was cheating on his wife, every other week JT is making the same kind of mistakes, his positioning is very poor for a supposed super defender, I would have a fit ricky over a fit JT all day long

 

[Embattle]

I have to disagree, look at the Everton match against Saha as an example he was caught out on 4 occasion with the ball in the air, and it was only highlighted because he was cheating on his wife, every other week JT is making the same kind of mistakes, his positioning is very poor for a supposed super defender, I would have a fit ricky over a fit JT all day long

JT is a very good defender, however he did seem to get worse with so much noise over his private life.

 

[Vladamir]

I have to disagree, look at the Everton match against Saha as an example he was caught out on 4 occasion with the ball in the air, and it was only highlighted because he was cheating on his wife, every other week JT is making the same kind of mistakes, his positioning is very poor for a supposed super defender, I would have a fit ricky over a fit JT all day long

I would too - but unfortunately that'll never be an option whilst he's in a Chelsea shirt

 

[megadave]

olol ronaldo scored despite shooting straight at the keeper, he hit it so hard it didnt matter

 

[cHodAX]

Im not a utd fan, and dont listen to the media crap either, but from general concensus i got from other utd fans was the veron was a failure and they just grew to like forlan lol

I was fortunate enough to see about 90% of the home CL ties he played at old Trafford, the guy was top draw in Europe but really struggled in key premier league games. Most of the 'United fans' who claim he was a failure have probably never even been to Old Trafford bud, it is a problem sadly endemic in modern football.

 

[megadave]

Imagine what would happen if everyone did try and go to games though.

 

[Corran]

I was fortunate enough to see about 90% of the home CL ties he played at old Trafford, the guy was top draw in Europe but really struggled in key premier league games. Most of the 'United fans' who claim he was a failure have probably never even been to Old Trafford bud, it is a problem sadly endemic in modern football.

It is a problem. I wish I could go to Old Trafford all the time, but finances never allow it.
Travel from scotland, somewhere to stay, match tickets (missus would want to come) etc mean it would cost me in the region of £300+ to actually attend the matches.

Something I hope to do when my health finally picks back up is get down there at least twice a year, unfortunately there is no end in sight for my health issues and so I remain unable to work (under doctors advice that work = health gets worse).
Gah I hate not being able to attend football matches

 

[Lethul]

I was fortunate enough to see about 90% of the home CL ties he played at old Trafford, the guy was top draw in Europe but really struggled in key premier league games. Most of the 'United fans' who claim he was a failure have probably never even been to Old Trafford bud, it is a problem sadly endemic in modern football.

Not Utd related, but its funny to read the comments on pages like goal.com. 95% of the comments are hateful comments from some african (or sometimes philinipine) who thinks player X is sosososo bad and should be sold!

 

[soze]

It is a problem. I wish I could go to Old Trafford all the time, but finances never allow it.
Travel from scotland, somewhere to stay, match tickets (missus would want to come) etc mean it would cost me in the region of £300+ to actually attend the matches.

It could be worse, i hold a season ticket i cant use. Since calling my boss an idiot i seem to be on call the same day as every home game and im never allowed to swap days.

 

[Betel]

How the fuck is Carrick more effective than Lampard? Lampard has consistently been one of the top 3 most productive players in the league for over five years.

Then I would kindly point out to you the contrasting successes of Manchester United and Chelsea over the past three years when their midfield talismans have been Carrick and Lampard respectively.

I don't know what motivates your persistance for Lampard. He has never produced in an England shirt. On the other hand, Carrick has had some great performances, notably against Germany.

As I said, everything speaks for itself.

 

[Turamber]

Gosh, Messi fanboism is one thing ... but a love in for Carrick? Please spare us, good lord!! Carrick is a nice passer but he goes missing when the going gets tough. It was easy to forget he was on the pitch for the league cup final and that happens with him far too much.

Both Barry and Milner should be ahead of Carrick in the England reckoning.

Oh and am I allowed some fanboism? Milner is our most improved player this season and he was good last year too. He played with an injury on Wednesday yet was still up and down the pitch, getting stuck in and distributing the ball brilliantly. But my favourite moment was when he finally had to be subbed (after Catermole kicked him). He didn't want to leave the ground - he kept stopping on the touchline to watch the match, until finally a steward had to escort him off for treatment.

 

[Betel]

Gosh, Messi fanboism is one thing ... but a love in for Carrick? Please spare us, good lord!! Carrick is a nice passer but he goes missing when the going gets tough. It was easy to forget he was on the pitch for the league cup final and that happens with him far too much.

Yet Carrick and Fletcher were at the centre of a United midfield which dominated possession throughout the game?

As I said, look at the silverware. It speaks for itself.

 

[Ch3tan]

Then I would kindly point out to you the contrasting successes of Manchester United and Chelsea over the past three years when their midfield talismans have been Carrick and Lampard respectively.

I don't know what motivates your persistance for Lampard. He has never produced in an England shirt. On the other hand, Carrick has had some great performances, notably against Germany.

As I said, everything speaks for itself.

Don't talk shit Dori, I like Carrick, but he is not as consistent as Lampard, or as hard a worker as Barry. He should go to South Africa as an option, but he is unlikely to start.

As for our mid-field talisman? I think you will find that most Utd fans would give that accolade to Fletcher, and then Giggs.

 

[Betel]

As for our mid-field talisman? I think you will find that most Utd fans would give that accolade to Fletcher, and then Giggs.

Then how is it that Carrick has played 5 more games than Fletcher and 15 more games than Giggs this year? Or is it that you know better than Sir Alex Ferguson? I mean, seriously?

The statistics speak for themselves.

 

[Ch3tan]

Then how is it that Carrick has played 5 more games than Fletcher and 15 more games than Giggs this year? Or is it that you know better than Sir Alex Ferguson? I mean, seriously?

The statistics speak for themselves.

Are you seriously going to ignore the reasons for Fletcher and Giggs not being available? Or the lack of defensive options that forced Fergie to play people out of position and not play the team he would have liked.

 

[Ch3tan]

BBC Sport - Football - Nani signs new four-year contract at Manchester United Hope this encourages him to continue developing, if he can play like he has this season, but with consistency then he will be really important for us over the next few years.


edit:// also, how unprofessional is Cook at Man City? Swearing at a guest in the directors box and banning him from the ground. Surely Man City's owners will get rid of this PR liability now?

 

[Marc]

Then I would kindly point out to you the contrasting successes of Manchester United and Chelsea over the past three years when their midfield talismans have been Carrick and Lampard respectively.

I don't know what motivates your persistance for Lampard. He has never produced in an England shirt. On the other hand, Carrick has had some great performances, notably against Germany.

As I said, everything speaks for itself.

No, no he hasnt. Hes had one good game against germany. Hes not a bad player, but hes not wanking off material like the current best player in the world by a country mile, Lionel messi is.

Arteta > Carrick by plenty

 

[Marc]

BBC Sport - Football - Nani signs new four-year contract at Manchester United Hope this encourages him to continue developing, if he can play like he has this season, but with consistency then he will be really important for us over the next few years.


edit:// also, how unprofessional is Cook at Man City? Swearing at a guest in the directors box and banning him from the ground. Surely Man City's owners will get rid of this PR liability now?

Its because one of the Everton Directors who were invited to the game started singing everton songs at him :lol:

 

[Ch3tan]

It was a friend of an Everton director, Cook told him to shut up and then allegedly started a torrent of abuse that was returned.

 

[Corran]

Going a bit far on the Carrick front Dori. You seem to not know the reasoning behind Giggs and Fletcher not playing as much as they should have... and the reason why carrick has played so much.

I leave you to do a little research into that matter yourself, but lets justs say that even Fergi would tell you that when there is an important game then it is Fletcher that makes the difference... and now if you watching games you will know that when you need a hard working midfielder that can support a solo Rooney, track back, and hassle the opponents then you play Park in the middle.

Carrick is disposable. many people can play where he plays and do almost as good a job (better in some areas). What Carrick has going for him is he has an OK all round game as opposed to being focused on passing, defensive or offensive duties.

 

[Marc]

It was a friend of an Everton director, Cook told him to shut up and then allegedly started a torrent of abuse that was returned.

LOL. Man City. The whole club is full of class from the top to the bottom.

fckin mercenaries.