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How are you getting into OB early? it wont let me start till tommorow QQ
 

Ctuchik

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They just need to fix power usage on cannon weapons then it be good, hopefully that get done between todays closing and OB starting (they pretty quick at times).

you mean the extensive drain they have?

i only had that happen on my escort when i used turrets on the rear aswell as heavy cannons front.

same thing happens when you use all beams on other ships aswell. and i think thats supposed to happen.


good thing is that the escort start to suck quite a bit less once those MK4's start to drop and get rewarded in missions :)

and i hope they will add in respecs later aswell as i'm notorious in gimping my toons the first time i play and isnt realizing it untill i'm to high level to reroll comfortably :p
 

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Cannons are meant to have less drain then the beams... the Devs have stated that there various escort bugs atm including the energy drain (a single volly of cannons - 4 heavy, 2 turrets) left me on 0 power.

A single volley of 6 beams would leave you on 50% power iirc... and cannons are meant to fire more often. Cant do that with no power :p

Escorts are great fun though, i had my teir 6 equipment, (and couple tier 7) on my defiantish ship. When i had power i decimated the enemy. when i didnt i cried in corner.
Just they could blow you up so easy. lol
 

Ctuchik

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well, not sure i like that they will lower the energy drain, atleast not to much i hope.

otherwise there would be no need to think about what setup you should use.

having guns that can all fire at the same time at the same target SHOULD mean that your losing out on staying power against those that maybe put torps in their rear slots.

besides, weapon batterys dropped often enough that i never had any issues really, and if i did i just used emergency power to weapons.

wich is what they are there for.
 

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well, not sure i like that they will lower the energy drain, atleast not to much i hope.

otherwise there would be no need to think about what setup you should use.

having guns that can all fire at the same time at the same target SHOULD mean that your losing out on staying power against those that maybe put torps in their rear slots.

besides, weapon batterys dropped often enough that i never had any issues really, and if i did i just used emergency power to weapons.

wich is what they are there for.

5minute timers make that a no no (btw im gonna chat now as the NDA drops for OB, and lots of OB getting CB forum access already which means anyone interested in it will have access).

Basically if you have to rely on batteries they cant be a 5 second thing every 5minutes, it doesnt work.

Currently, at higher ranks, even if you havent got 2 turrets, you eat your power very quickly. Rapid fire 3 + 4 cannons left you without power in 2 rounds of attack.
The distance modification means that if you want the power to alpha strike you needed to be within 5km, this means escorts are being easily out damaged by cruisers (and even science ships), due to the time to get into place.

Escorts can not keep the auxiliray up (for turning arc), the weapon power high for damage, and the shields/engines at a decent level so as not to be destroyed.

It isnt really noticable though until you get to captain and start looking into it.
Remember also, escorts fire twice as often as a cruiser (2s for cannons, 4s for phasers). This means that they will naturally use up their power quicker even without the current over the top energy drain that they face.

Also keep in mind that if you using normal cannons (not heavy), then you actually losing half you dps most the time as by trying ot fire all weapons at once you only get 2 rounds, not the 4 they get if shot alone. This isnt a problem for phasers.

Think this is coming round to the point that you can not load out on cannons even if you want to. Even having phasers will make things easier.

(p.s. at captain (maybe just before)you also get an ability to use that allows you to ignore teh energy drain of an additional weapon for 27 seconds, this was not even making a difference to my energy drain in the defiant which made matters worse.

At higher levels, the only wya you can get hte dps in an escort is to stop firing and attacking after 20 seconds, that gets you better dps then you can get by constant fighting with worse weapons, which is stupid. I often waited 30s just go get rapid fire on my BO back up (roll on training BO being back so can get lower tier rapid fire on another one)
 

chipper

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anyone know what time we can download from D2D?


scrub that just tried and its finally letting me :)
 

chipper

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i bought my copy from direct2drive ive just started downloading it ive got my key and ive just tried entering it on website and it says this key is already in use?


i go into my account and it says

Star Trek Online
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* Star Trek Online - Preorder

does this mean i can login or has someone managed to guess my beta code? because i dont remember using the key before now??
 

Corran

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startrek online - preorder means that your preorder key was accepted. Is it possible you inputted and sent it twice?

Looking like you guys will only have a 50-100mb download from what you getting to get on when the server opens tomorrow.
I got 600mb to go though. Damn "rollbacks" through files not needed being released and them not wanting to cut into our play time by forcing a patch over weekend. :)
 

chipper

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possibly long as its accepted on my acct im not bothered :)
 

Corran

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aye that is it accepted. Exact same as mine for the amazon key (ello missus borg officer.)

Had to phone amazon to get my key, glad it freephone in UK. Speak to an american, who didnt understand what open beta was.

Then i told him exactly where to look on my order for the key (one their guys said where to get them to look on hte forums of amazon) and he took 25minutes to take me off hold and provide te key. lol.

Oh. And one of the things you must do when you playing is to make the trip to Deep Space Nine. Probably the best area in the game currently, AND, they have a wormhole that opens and shuts so you can just stand on the promanade and watch it :D

p.s.
Closed beta forums more or less locked now and everything moving to the public forums. Guessing they wont carry over most our discussions though which be alot of good things lost :(
 

chipper

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am so annoyed i didnt get into closed beta i been talkin about this game since 2002 and somehow ive been passed up lol oh well i suppose it will make the longevity of the game longer
 

Ctuchik

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i have one major gripe with this game tho, and thats the crafting...

anyone that played guild wars knows what to expect.


basically you just collect the materials (edit: wich really isnt that hard to come by as theres "material nodes" in every instance you enter) and then go to a NPC and buy the modded stuff from them.

so if your expecting a crafting system ala WoW or DAoC or even CO your in for a disapointement. its pretty fucking dull.


tho a good thing is that more ppl will get access to "crafted" stuff without having to spend a fortune leveling the shit up :)
 

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p.s.
Closed beta forums more or less locked now and everything moving to the public forums. Guessing they wont carry over most our discussions though which be alot of good things lost :(

some of it atleast, but the vast majority are so outdated it would just cause confusion. and i dont think cryptic's mods felt like sifting through ~500.000 posts to get the valid stuff :)
 

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Also keep in mind that if you using normal cannons (not heavy), then you actually losing half you dps most the time as by trying ot fire all weapons at once you only get 2 rounds, not the 4 they get if shot alone. This isnt a problem for phasers.

heavys only fire 2 rounds either way then? because i used 2 heavy MK4's and never got more then 2 shots off from them when i used them both.
 

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heavys = 2 rounds, normals = 4 rounds.

heavies you basically ok firing 3 or 4 with auto fire without it affecting you, even above that aint too bad. Normals you need to really manually fire 1 at a time to get full use out of them which lowers the dps massively but does keep power up. But doing so lets phasers outdamage you ofc.
 

chipper

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anyone else in open beta log in yet? keeps saying you are not allowed to log into this server at this time?
 

Corran

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anyone else in open beta log in yet? keeps saying you are not allowed to log into this server at this time?

hasnt started yet.

It starts at 10am pst (think that right time zone anyways.)

anyways, whatever the timezone they are in, this equates to 18:00 UK time and therefore 4hrs 30mins from the time of this post.

......

lvl 16 restriction at the moment. blah.
Wonder how long they will take to open other areas but can understand why, they dont a massive restructure of missions and levels they available for this weekend, but didnt force a restart for all players to test it due to not wanting to upset players trying out their new ships.

Though if you hit this cap, just hit the PvP (helps klingons) and also do "fleet actions" to try get some good mk IV equipment for when you can do the 16-21 area where they will make things massively easier
 

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bah, full maps. but cant really play anyways as at inlaws. strange as this shouldnt happen due to the instance setup they use but it a nice server test anyways.

if anyone wants to give me a yell ingame (wont play for awhile probably)... i be on as Shiro@Corran2000
 

Ctuchik

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yep, same here. either getting full maps or stuck at "retrieving list of maps".

have to be sad to use instanced servers and still end up getting login capped >.<
 

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haha

had a great bug, beam from the azure back to my ship... apart from my ship wasnt there. Just my character standing in space with her ground skills available. Shame there wasnt a ship in range and i couldnt move from the spot. A ground sniper rifle phaser, vs a ship would be interesting :p

Really need to remember the screenshot code as printscreen dont work like it should :p
 

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hehe. i honestly think they broke alot more then they fixed in this patch.

for instance, i keep getting forcefully joined with a team and thrown into instance missions i've already completed even tho i have my team setting set to closed.

and the bridge bug is funny to. you can fly your ship inside your ships bridge... >.<
 

Corran

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Im seeing how big my tribble will grow at the moment.afk leaving it growing :p
 

chipper

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been playin few hours now and i love it :D

had a couple of weird bugs that were funny tho was a ship onboard the station which was quite amusing then i was a human in space which was even funnier.
had a few other glitchy bits but those 2 where the biggies quite common too b all accounts will prob get fixed quite quick
 

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im constantly doing starbase 24 atm, it just so chaotic and fun because there about 30 fed ships flyiing around :D
 

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nice blues dropping in there aswell.

really unfair to spend a day in there and then go pvp'ing :) klingons don't really stand much of a chance hehe.
 

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nice blues dropping in there aswell.

really unfair to spend a day in there and then go pvp'ing :) klingons don't really stand much of a chance hehe.

aye indeed. i got bored after 5 or 6 of them. so gonna level up, get escort and then maybe go back
 

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back to having lots of fun.

Escort ship, 3 duel disruptor cannons, 1 disruptor cannon turret + Cannon:Rapid fire 9 = dead ships in seconds.

I can take out at least 2 BoPs of equal level in the 15s or so tht the ability is up and damage the last one heftiily. And the fact that there is only about 11s between ability going down and being available again is great.
Was in a "secure sector XXX" mission earlier and I think everyone was getting upset. I was getting all the loot because i was outdamaging them by miles, could destroy 1 ship then turn to their target and still out damage them. lol.
 

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