Some thoughts on 'adding'...

[anioal]

True in some cases, complete bollox in others. There are rp horny people in all camps, just like there are some people in all camps who don't care about rps

As for the original post...got to admire Svart's balls for asking for a flaming (heck I'll even rep him for it) but I can't really agree with him. The beauty of DAOC is it allows all playstyles. If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better

rep given

 

[Eruptix]

Another idiot have spoken, hallelujja!

xD xD xD

quoted for teh truth !

 

[pip]

Well my thoughts on adding :kissit: j/k I try to make movie on hunter 95% of stuff i got someone came along and fooked it up, so I quess I see 1v1 I tend to let it be cause I no the feeling.

 

[Shirel]

The beauty of DAOC is it allows all playstyles. If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better

Rep given Don't think you can say it any better tbh

 

[>.< Pooned]

It's war. It's not Realm Team Deathmatch, it's not Realm 1v1 Tournament Deathmatch, it's a 3-way Realm War. There is no such thing as 'adding'; it's just a term invented by people who wanted to jealousy cling to 'their' RPs. Every single enemy is fair game. All the time. Everywhere. I've always found it interesting that the people who whine the loudest about 'adding' are often the same people who are first to sneer 'someone died in an RvR zone' at anyone they don't consider part of their own little l337 clique.
Which is more than a little bit hypocritical.

You want guaranteed 1v1? Play Quake Tournament Deathmatch.
You want guaranteed 8v8? Play Quake Team Deathmatch.
You want war? Play DAOC.

A bunch of l337-kiddies will probably now leap in and flame me to death for saying this (oh noes, I only have one RR5 toon so far, how could I possibly know anything about the game?), but those are that facts. You can splutter in indignation all you want, but those are the facts.

DAOC is not a 1v1 game.
DAOC is not an 8v8 game.
DAOC is a realm war game.

If you want to try and have 1v1 or 8v8 fights in DAOC, fine, great, more power to you. But the game isn't set up for that, so don't whine if an enemy of your enemy helps kill your enemy. If your FG is fighting an enemy FG and more of either side or the third side piles on, oh well. Deal with it. It happens, and it's going to keep on happening...because that's how the RvR part of this game is set up.

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Quick tip: if you want a 1v1 - or even an 8v8 - fight with someone with no chance of someone adding, do it down in the southern end of the Irish Sea. No bugger ever goes there, and the chances of you getting 'added on' are about as great as the chances of George Bush using a five-syllable word (and knowing what it means).

Don't try to have a 1v1 fight 10 feet to the left of Brynja Bridge and then howl in indignation when someone else piles in as well; it's a bit like deciding to have a screaming argument with someone in the middle of a restaurant and then going "FFS stop eavesdropping!" at everybody else.


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Couldnt agree more m8 from ur avatar u are a MID? u did some mistake come to albs asap u r a bit difrent from all the others

 

[Jorof]

The only reason ppl add is because they know they have no chance in hell beating you by themselves.
That's the conclusion i've made of it all.

 

[Gotmagi]

Adding is and will always be lame to me, ppl who add on everything they see are in 95% cases just rp horny fuckers trying to get rr 11 asap to show off their leet title In the other 5% cases it could be some roleplayers with the "defend the realm from dirty invaders" stuff

Or there's just a lot of bitter ppl out there that feel they have to add on the person(s) who just killed them last run, coz they cant beat em face to face

 

[Calo]

Why do you need to make your own post about it? Because everybody ignores your opinion in the serious discussions perhaps? Maybe you should consider why.

look who's talking

you're probably the must useless guy on whole fh. Basicly all your post are clueless whines with a way too high ego added from yourself.

Oh well, not like you would care, you probably still think you're the best player ever in daoc.

funny tho that you react, its just a big laugh with everything you say.

 

[Elrandhir]

not again

this issue has been beaten to death already, over and over again, just drop it? on a side note, nice fights at crau yesterday. especially solamnus and elrandir ofc!

Was nice yeah, And underestimating you abit became my Undoing ;D
Nice fight though, am in BG playing around abit now, felt like I needed to do something else for abit, usually get tired of BG rather fast though ;D

Expect harder resistance in next fight though ^^ was hopeing to face you more times that day, but never did ;/

Get so few fights when out with hero so usually get bored rather fast though >.<

 

[Void959]

look who's talking

you're probably the must useless guy on whole fh. Basicly all your post are clueless whines with a way too high ego added from yourself.

Oh well, not like you would care, you probably still think you're the best player ever in daoc.

funny tho that you react, its just a big laugh with everything you say.

What the hell gave you that idea? Post links to some threads so I can get an idea of where I insulted you so much.

 

[Z^^]

its the same as always even if you ae a soloer or a fg random or setgroup your looking for good fights and then the random or even guild group of your realm adds because they like to play realm war on your engaged group...

You remove the fun of from their fg and the opposing one but on the other hand I guess you have no chance vs stajjions groups and the likes and find your fun in doing what you can fighting all other realms as if you are at war.

And lately i've lost some fights to stajjion's group anyhow but i find fun in trying.

The real soloers who go out there hours after hours trying to find a good fight really deserve credit and not the ones who make 2full groups looking for "war".

Zoia I think is very respected because he/she really trys to have fun soloing many hours and get killed by both groups and duos and whatever..

 

[Phake]

It's war. It's not Realm Team Deathmatch, it's not Realm 1v1 Tournament Deathmatch, it's a 3-way Realm War. There is no such thing as 'adding'; it's just a term invented by people who wanted to jealousy cling to 'their' RPs. Every single enemy is fair game. All the time. Everywhere. I've always found it interesting that the people who whine the loudest about 'adding' are often the same people who are first to sneer 'someone died in an RvR zone' at anyone they don't consider part of their own little l337 clique.
Which is more than a little bit hypocritical.

You want guaranteed 1v1? Play Quake Tournament Deathmatch.
You want guaranteed 8v8? Play Quake Team Deathmatch.
You want war? Play DAOC.

A bunch of l337-kiddies will probably now leap in and flame me to death for saying this (oh noes, I only have one RR5 toon so far, how could I possibly know anything about the game?), but those are that facts. You can splutter in indignation all you want, but those are the facts.

DAOC is not a 1v1 game.
DAOC is not an 8v8 game.
DAOC is a realm war game.

If you want to try and have 1v1 or 8v8 fights in DAOC, fine, great, more power to you. But the game isn't set up for that, so don't whine if an enemy of your enemy helps kill your enemy. If your FG is fighting an enemy FG and more of either side or the third side piles on, oh well. Deal with it. It happens, and it's going to keep on happening...because that's how the RvR part of this game is set up.

-----

Quick tip: if you want a 1v1 - or even an 8v8 - fight with someone with no chance of someone adding, do it down in the southern end of the Irish Sea. No bugger ever goes there, and the chances of you getting 'added on' are about as great as the chances of George Bush using a five-syllable word (and knowing what it means).

Don't try to have a 1v1 fight 10 feet to the left of Brynja Bridge and then howl in indignation when someone else piles in as well; it's a bit like deciding to have a screaming argument with someone in the middle of a restaurant and then going "FFS stop eavesdropping!" at everybody else.


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All nice and all that . BUT .. i seriously doubt that the casual players want the guildgroups to go full out and add on everything .. thats kinda makes it impossible for them to play dossent it? .. or sure they can still play but should make it MUCH harder for them to kill something and get RPs .. so i think you should rethink the situation tbh svart .. and see it as it really are ..

peace.... better than war :]

 

[Zebolt]

lol Svartmetall don't make a fool out of yourself... oops, too late xD

 

[Cadiva]

The beauty of DAOC is it allows all playstyles. If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better

Forgive me for being stupid but isn't that exactly what Svart has said in his post?

Interesting to see how you're repped for it and he gets flamed for it. Reading his post just seems to me he's saying play how you want but don't whine about adding when the game is publicised as a 3-way war between realms.

 

[ebenezer]

Forgive me for being stupid but isn't that exactly what Svart has said in his post?

Interesting to see how you're repped for it and he gets flamed for it. Reading his post just seems to me he's saying play how you want but don't whine about adding when the game is publicised as a 3-way war between realms.

Its all about how you put the words and how you come across. bracken used a more diplomatic way of saying the same thing perhaps...but he refrained from using words as "realmwar" or adding etc....words that is like gasolin in some peoples eyes
over and out..

 

[Raven]

True in some cases, complete bollox in others. There are rp horny people in all camps, just like there are some people in all camps who don't care about rps

As for the original post...got to admire Svart's balls for asking for a flaming (heck I'll even rep him for it) but I can't really agree with him. The beauty of DAOC is it allows all playstyles. If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better

bingo, though people should be allowed to disagree with others playstyles, they should not try and enforce their playstyle on others, this is an mmo, you can do what you like so long as you keep within the CoC.

 

[Raven]

Forgive me for being stupid but isn't that exactly what Svart has said in his post?

Interesting to see how you're repped for it and he gets flamed for it. Reading his post just seems to me he's saying play how you want but don't whine about adding when the game is publicised as a 3-way war between realms.

because svart is a gibbering monkey that tries to impose his playstyle on everyone else and is blind to other peoples opinions.

 

[Bracken]

Forgive me for being stupid but isn't that exactly what Svart has said in his post?

Interesting to see how you're repped for it and he gets flamed for it. Reading his post just seems to me he's saying play how you want but don't whine about adding when the game is publicised as a 3-way war between realms.

It's just the bit about DAOC not being a 1v1 or 8v8 game and that it's a realm war game. I just pointed out that it's actually all of those - which makes it the game it is. I don't disagree with some of what Svart said, but it just doesn't help making a post where the tone is belittling to those who prefer fg/solo. It's no better than making a post where the tone is belittling to us zerging adders

 

[Thornea]

Basics of RvR
For a while now, we receive more and more complaints following arguments between players from a same Realm who don't share the same view of RvR.

The frontiers are the battlefield where the armies of the three Realms fight each other. A place where characters fight an endless battle. Of course, everyone goes there with their own motivations. But be it for the pleasure of the victory whatever the cost, for a balanced encounter won without loss, or simply to increase the number of their realm points, to lead guild companions to a fortress attack, to protect the relics against the avidity of the adversary of the time, to try and have a title by accumulating rogue duels, to block a bridge until death, to follow the 120 allies who are making themselves ready to become the masters of the Isle of Agramon, to fight for the glory of their King, for one's own glory or even to try and fight only with one group versus another group, there is no motivation better or more legitimate than another.

Everyone is free to propose to the others some rules of conduct. But offering does not mean imposing. There can be no rule, for instance, that stipulates that two groups that are fighting each other must be left alone. It is also out of the question to establish a zone restricted to solo characters or group versus group confrontations by blaming those who preferred to come with 40 allies and played their own way. As there is no reason to demand to the members of a group to come and back up the action of their Realm if they prefer to take care of something else.

Each one has his own view of fair-play, of the type of game he likes and of what he expects from his companions. But whatever happens, it is not acceptable to have players insulting or threatening others which includes when some players did not follow their own RvR code of conduct. As long as we remain within the frame of the GOA Rules of Conduct there is no good or bad way to play Dark Age of Camelot, and thus, no reason to try and impose one's way to the others.And we must keep in mind that everyone is here to play, that every character met, friend or enemy, is only the representation of a player who, as oneself, logged in to have fun.

 

[Svartmetall]

because svart is a gibbering monkey that tries to impose his playstyle on everyone else and is blind to other peoples opinions.

lol

Try actually reading what I said next time. Or is mindlessly flaming people the best you can manage?

 

[Nosufer]

Brackens post is spot on, this game caters for all play styles, the problem is, only certain playstyles are deemed "acceptable" by the majority who visit here and frequent IRC. If you add, you get whined at constantly, yet are you not just exercising your right to play the game as you wish?

 

[Svartmetall]

Its all about how you put the words and how you come across. bracken used a more diplomatic way of saying the same thing perhaps...but he refrained from using words as "realmwar" or adding etc....words that is like gasolin in some peoples eyes
over and out..

So, calling the realm war a realm war is undiplomatic?

What are we supposed to call it, a multi-national aggressive diplomacy situation?

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[Svartmetall]

Brackens post is spot on, this game caters for all play styles, the problem is, only certain playstyles are deemed "acceptable" by the majority who visit here and frquent IRC. If you add, you get whined at constantly, yet are you not just exercising your right to play the game as you wish?

Exactly.

It seems that in some people's eyes, all playstyles are acceptable...as long as it's their playstyle. And they'll be the ones howling loudest and longest about anyone daring to play the realm war - ooo, that phrase again - daring to play the REALM WAR in the manner they see fit.

 

[Svartmetall]

lol Svartmetall don't make a fool out of yourself... oops, too late xD

Wow! What a well-thought-out and reasoned argument by way of response!

 

[Svartmetall]

True in some cases, complete bollox in others. There are rp horny people in all camps, just like there are some people in all camps who don't care about rps

As for the original post...got to admire Svart's balls for asking for a flaming (heck I'll even rep him for it) but I can't really agree with him. The beauty of DAOC is it allows all playstyles. If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better

Excellent post, repped for it.

I wish the people who constantly bitch about 'adding' would read it and take it to heart.

 

[Elrandhir]

because svart is a gibbering monkey that tries to impose his playstyle on everyone else and is blind to other peoples opinions.

This goes both ways though everyone is trying their best to make it so what they think should be will happen, nothing strange that it is that way either, even if it is abit narrowsighted.

 

[Elrandhir]

It's just the bit about DAOC not being a 1v1 or 8v8 game and that it's a realm war game. I just pointed out that it's actually all of those - which makes it the game it is. I don't disagree with some of what Svart said, but it just doesn't help making a post where the tone is belittling to those who prefer fg/solo. It's no better than making a post where the tone is belittling to us zerging adders

As said, people is trying to make what they want happen ofcourse, if you see a post for strikt soloing never add, fair fights some will speak as this is how all should play and all others are crap (hard, but to some degree true)
and the others will go, it's Realm vs Realm mates yada yada.

Who is right, well both and noone really, because as said anyone can play as they like so both solo and 8 vs 8 and Realm vs Realm is as legit as anything else.

Some care to much though, I seldom make any QQ's and if anyone whine on me I couldent care less they will just waste their time if they PM/Post or whatever to whine at me ^^

I will usually respect a friendly PM, but a whine will get you nowhere, then you will probably get a laugh back tbh, or the last one that whined at me logged after awhile ;D

 

[ebenezer]

So, calling the realm war a realm war is undiplomatic?

What are we supposed to call it, a multi-national aggressive diplomacy situation?

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First of all i couldnt care less what you call it But many people that read FH certainly does...as you notice. if you would drop that word for people that doesnt read FH or maybe doesnt play daoc it wouldnt be undiplomatic. Its like saying ow...i soooo like weapons and war out aloud in front of a mother whos son was just shot by a shotgun the other day, she would take offense.
ok harsh example...but i think you know what im getting at
This discussion is so old and poisoned so that any reference to adding...realm war...or "fair" play....make for a predictible explosion eveytime it is mentioned...
Unfortunatly its nothing we will ever get anywhere..i think the best everyone can do is to just play it like you want yourself and ignore what ever is thrown at you. I know many people that never ever get involved in these discussions here and just laugh and plays and are happy about the game. They dont know what kind of subcultures or views that goes around these forums and couldnt care less, they play with their circle of friends and i think thats how it should be. its a game and anyone taking it futher then that should start a serious detox and stay away from game. I see many on these forums that behave worse then some junkies i met in rl. At least some of them can behave like decent human beings....
over and out..

 

[Edlina]

Excellent post, repped for it.

I wish the people who constantly bitch about 'adding' would read it and take it to heart.

And the rest of us wish you would read it and stop talking about realm wars when it's a game, and it is what you make of it, maybe you'd stop bitching about people preferring fights with equal numbers, be it 1on1, 8vs8 or anything else. I bet the irc-crew from midgard prioritizes their enemies over you so they're not gonna help you out by adding - but instead help the hibs/albs - because it's not your rr5 toon that helps make rvr fun for them, it's the enemies that gives them tough and fun fights.

 

[kivik]

Excellent post, repped for it.

I wish the people who constantly bitch about 'adding' would read it and take it to heart.

I don't know how many times I've said it. But I wish, this time, that people who constantly bitch about people whining about adds will read this and take it to heart.

When you zerg and add on 'fair-game'-players you are insulting and provoking them, you should really expect whines and maybe insults.

If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better

That sadly won't happen until zergers/adders stop provoking us to bitch at them.