Some thoughts on 'adding'...

[xxManiacxx]

Because sieging doesn't currently provide enough of an RP reward to make it tempting. The whole 8v8 mentality started because people realised an organised FG was the fastest/most efficient way for people to farm RPs.

No it´s not.

 

[Ethild]

Whatever you want to call it ("realm war"), the bottom line is that above all else, DAoC is a game. A game that people play for fun. Dieing 3,4,5,6+ vs 1 from adds where you can do nothing about it is (well obviously I don't speak for everyone) most certainly not fun.

If you get your kicks out of deliberately ruining other peoples fun then fair enough, but I certainly don't. I play the game the way I would like others to play toward me. After all, if I get zerged/added on a few times in a row, all I do is log out. Don't you find enjoyment decreases when running around in an empty zone?

 

[Ryuno]

Well i'm not pro fg, pro 1vs, or pro zerg (though I don't like zergs much kthx), but from reading your post I still felt you were trying to tell people how to play the game.

From the other responses, I would say that others think the same. Maybe just bad wording I don't know, but your post is pretty negative and more akin to a whine/flame imo.

I still think its time to give this a rest. This issue is getting old and boring now

 

[Svartmetall]

So when i'm out soloing with my zerker and don't want people to add on my fights, it's because i "jealousy cling to 'my' RPs"?

No, I said the term was originally invented by people who did. I have the utmost respect for people who try and make it solo in RvR - you, Kagato, Warhead, whoever.

I usually don't whine at people for adding now and then or outnumbering me.
However, when some people will do everything they can do ruin someone elses fun, it does piss me off(even made some strong whine in a grats thread last night, but that's deleted now).

Ah, now, deliberately adding just to piss someone off is pretty much griefing and is whole different kettle of ballgames.

 

[Gungo]

Svart you are my hero or erm... warrior

Add away i say, if i dont the next person will

 

[Svartmetall]

Whatever you want to call it ("realm war"), the bottom line is that above all else, DAoC is a game. A game that people play for fun. Dieing 3,4,5,6+ vs 1 from adds where you can do nothing about it is (well obviously I don't speak for everyone) most certainly not fun.

Agreed; I never said it was.

If you get your kicks out of deliberately ruining other peoples fun then fair enough, but I certainly don't.

I don't, either. People who do have no penis. However, I sincerely doubt that most adding situations occur because someone goes "Bwahaha let's spoil their fight meightzors!"...in the chaos of today's fast-paced RvR, it's not like there's a sign above an enemy players' head that says "Svartmetall's Inconnu Gryphon Knight, DO NOT ADD". You see an enemy/enemies, you tend to default to a kill-first-and-ask-questions-later approach. Because if you don't, they'll probably kill you.

 

[Svartmetall]

Well i'm not pro fg, pro 1vs, or pro zerg (though I don't like zergs much kthx), but from reading your post I still felt you were trying to tell people how to play the game.

I really, really wasn't. I was pointing out that the behaviour of those that by and large do is illogical in a game that's set up the way this one is.

I still think its time to give this a rest.

I'll fire up me Thane, then.

 

[Majsan]

It's war. It's not Realm Team Deathmatch, it's not Realm 1v1 Tournament Deathmatch, it's a 3-way Realm War. There is no such thing as 'adding'; it's just a term invented by people who wanted to jealousy cling to 'their' RPs. Every single enemy is fair game. All the time. Everywhere. I've always found it interesting that the people who whine the loudest about 'adding' are often the same people who are first to sneer 'someone died in an RvR zone' at anyone they don't consider part of their own little l337 clique.
Which is more than a little bit hypocritical.

You want guaranteed 1v1? Play Quake Tournament Deathmatch.
You want guaranteed 8v8? Play Quake Team Deathmatch.
You want war? Play DAOC.

A bunch of l337-kiddies will probably now leap in and flame me to death for saying this (oh noes, I only have one RR5 toon so far, how could I possibly know anything about the game?), but those are that facts. You can splutter in indignation all you want, but those are the facts.

DAOC is not a 1v1 game.
DAOC is not an 8v8 game.
DAOC is a realm war game.

If you want to try and have 1v1 or 8v8 fights in DAOC, fine, great, more power to you. But the game isn't set up for that, so don't whine if an enemy of your enemy helps kill your enemy. If your FG is fighting an enemy FG and more of either side or the third side piles on, oh well. Deal with it. It happens, and it's going to keep on happening...because that's how the RvR part of this game is set up.

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Quick tip: if you want a 1v1 - or even an 8v8 - fight with someone with no chance of someone adding, do it down in the southern end of the Irish Sea. No bugger ever goes there, and the chances of you getting 'added on' are about as great as the chances of George Bush using a five-syllable word (and knowing what it means).

Don't try to have a 1v1 fight 10 feet to the left of Brynja Bridge and then howl in indignation when someone else piles in as well; it's a bit like deciding to have a screaming argument with someone in the middle of a restaurant and then going "FFS stop eavesdropping!" at everybody else.


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Another idiot have spoken, hallelujja!

 

[Svartmetall]

Another idiot have spoken, hallelujja!

Wow! What a well-thought-out and reasoned argument by way of response!

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Wow! What a well-thought-out and reasoned argument by way of response!

Majsan doesn't have that many braincells u c

 

[Vodkafairy]

epic fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight (c) majsan

 

[ebenezer]

not again

this issue has been beaten to death already, over and over again, just drop it? on a side note, nice fights at crau yesterday. especially solamnus and elrandir ofc!

haha....aww why you little!
yeh was a nice fight no excuses. you did caught me with my ip down, but some fairness for higher ranks is acceptable heheh. You play the character very good. Plus the combo shield/traitors proc must be the worst bane for a hero Hehe cya out there again)

And to svart. I feel for you and players that i know are confused over all the add whine and sub rule cultures. But first of all Fh is death ears for you. Cause i believe most of the click you are referring to make their home here
Also YOU gotta accept that people that dont whine on you for playing the war styleish type of daoc you want, have to be able to play solo....or 8vs 8. Daoc is perfectly acountable for those playstyles as well as any other. its a matter of accepting ANY playstyle that will make this comunity working.....
over and out..

 

[Svartmetall]

"co inventor of luripee rolls"

I'm deeply scared by any possible interpretation of the phrase 'Luripee roll'.

 

[ebenezer]

"co inventor of luripee rolls"

I'm deeply scared by any possible interpretation of the phrase 'Luripee roll'.

If only you knew

 

[Dorimor1]

Yes, the game is what you make it. But those shouldn't whine when they are added on, svart, what you say is so true, shame the leet kids can't come up with anything other than 'stfu' and 'qq' ..

 

[Septina]

Yes, the game is what you make it. But those shouldn't whine when they are added on, svart, what you say is so true, shame the leet kids can't come up with anything other than 'stfu' and 'qq' ..

What thread have you been reading? :x

 

[Dorimor1]

What thread have you been reading? :x

This one.

As a l337 k14 I'd expect that kind of a responce from you

 

[Kinag]

olololol stfu kthxbye!

 

[Fyric]

This game is something altogether different now than mythic intented it to be im sure.

This game isnt WAR as you claim, its a GAME, games are harmless ways of passing time, having fun with your friend, that sort of thing.

To the elitists as you call them, this is now a competitive game, none of them cares about the rps anymore, they want the challenge of fighting an enemy of equal terms, by 'adding' you ruin that chance, but by now most of the groups have found a way to counteract adds.

Like septina wrote, most of the FGvsFG guilds will back off if another group adds, and the enemy group will then most likely kill the adders, then they'll salute eachother and then run their seperate ways.

Some of you might have a problem with this, but being that a game is what you make of it, tough luck.

 

[Andrilyn]

Yes, the game is what you make it. But those shouldn't whine when they are added on, svart, what you say is so true, shame the leet kids can't come up with anything other than 'stfu' and 'qq' ..

You can't expect people to act leet and also make a sensible post without insults that's asking too much tbh

 

[duact]

wish i could group with svartmetall's thane

 

[Coldbeard]

This one.

As a l337 k14 I'd expect that kind of a responce from you

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39

Go back to your little playground, big boy.

 

[Septina]

This one.

As a l337 k14 I'd expect that kind of a responce from you

There you go...
Oh and nice edit you little bitter thing

 

[rure]

It's war.

No its not war, its a computer game. For trying to post a semi-rational post I am still amazed that you havent figured the very basic difference of a war and something abstract in a pseudo-world that's governed by a set of rules that doesnt apply to the real world.

A bunch of l337-kiddies will probably now leap in and flame me to death for saying this (oh noes, I only have one RR5 toon so far, how could I possibly know anything about the game?), but those are that facts. You can splutter in indignation all you want, but those are the facts.

DAOC is not a 1v1 game.
DAOC is not an 8v8 game.
DAOC is a realm war game.

Feel free to back your facts up with evidence. If you dont, its just another useless oppinion. Indication about this "realm war" is the best you can come up with.

 

[kivik]

My ideas about this.

Ah, now, deliberately adding just to piss someone off is pretty much griefing and is whole different kettle of ballgames.

When you add or zerg me, you do piss me off. It doesn't matter if it was intended or not, you provoked me. I might whine or insult someone. Expect that.

Yes, the game is what you make it. But those shouldn't whine when they are added on, svart, what you say is so true, shame the leet kids can't come up with anything other than 'stfu' and 'qq' ..

Oh and shame about the casuals grown-up that can't come up with anything other that 'leet kids!' Such a ideal example to to look up to, right?

 

[Septina]

Oh and shame about the casuals grown-up that can't come up with anything other that 'leet kids!' Such a ideal example to to look up to, right?

:worthy:
Have a rep.

 

[Eleasias]

Wow! What a well-thought-out and reasoned argument by way of response!

Because you seem to be just ignoring the good posts such as Kirennia's, just like in the other threads you've made about the subject. If it was all about RP's I'd be out there zerging with a caster minigroup 24/7.

 

[Dorimor1]

There you go...
Oh and nice edit you little bitter thing

Where was the edit? It doesn't say underneath my posts.

And ofc, the leet kids coming up with BG insults, and 'bitter'. Original.

Tbh the first leets were quite funny. Now its just becomming repetative and boring, I could spice things up, but I don't wanna start a flame war

 

[gravedigger]

Quake 3 etc is this section svart https://forums.freddyshouse.com/forumdisplay.php?f=14 think you posted wrong section m8ey


PS omg thats a FPS game ya know lmao

 

[Bracken]

the only reason people add is for RPs, its the useles zerging wankers that are the RP horny people, not the 8v8'ers or soloers, RPs are just a byproduct

True in some cases, complete bollox in others. There are rp horny people in all camps, just like there are some people in all camps who don't care about rps

As for the original post...got to admire Svart's balls for asking for a flaming (heck I'll even rep him for it) but I can't really agree with him. The beauty of DAOC is it allows all playstyles. If people just accepted it and got on and played the game how they wanted without bitching at those who don't play the same way we'd all get along much better