Some testing after the nerf.

[Blazor Meneth]

In duel vs a rr6 warrior, and just look how sick this is. My doublefrost did almost the same dmg(little lower)as his UNSTYLED dmg!is it supposed to be that way? hope not
Think something should be done becouse warriors unstylded dmg shouldn't at any time be higher then a perfectly styled Havoc (unstyled was teh same as my havoc) snowblind or doublefrost.
Even tho he hits vs studded and I hit vs chain.
His havoc: ~250+ (1h)
My havoc: ~150 (1h)

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[19:23:29] You enter combat mode and target [Urme]
[19:23:29] You prepare to perform a Havoc!
[19:23:29] You perform your Havoc perfectly. (+132)
[19:23:29] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 154 (-98) damage!
[19:23:29] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 42 (-27) damage!

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[19:23:39] You enter combat mode and target [Urme]
[19:23:39] You prepare to perform a Snowblind!
[19:23:39] You perform your Snowblind perfectly. (+117)
[19:23:39] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 150 (-96) damage!
[19:23:39] You fumble the attack and take time to recover!

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[19:23:52] You enter combat mode and target [Urme]
[19:23:52] You prepare to perform a Doublefrost!
[19:23:52] You perform your Doublefrost perfectly. (+118)
[19:23:52] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 138 (-88) damage!
[19:23:52] Urme is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[19:23:52] You hit Urme for 56 damage!
[19:23:52] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 32 (-20) damage!



So Havoc->snowblind->doublefrost?!?!

And I mean WTF is 138 dmg??

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[19:25:23] You enter combat mode and target [Urme]
[19:25:24] You prepare to perform a Snowsquall!
[19:25:24] You perform your Snowsquall perfectly. (+186)
[19:25:24] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 193 (-123) damage!
[19:25:24] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 39 (-25) damage!

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[19:25:31] You enter combat mode and target [Urme]
[19:25:31] You prepare to perform a Evernight!
[19:25:31] You perform your Evernight perfectly. (+98)
[19:25:31] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 125 (-80) damage!
[19:25:31] You attack Urme with your axe and hit for 38 (-24) damage!



So yes, snowsquall (chain) is still better then axe behind style(chain).
But hell please don't come tell me that this is the way it should be.
Don't even want to mention his Evernight (1h), ofc it's higher then my Snowsquall.

PS. Yes we both got SC armor capad (I got 62quick)

 

[gunner440]

May you find that love never leave you
may you find it by the end of the day
you wont be lost, hurt tired and lonely
something beautiful will come your way

Addressed Left Axe combat style being very overpowered. Not a popular decision with Berserkers and Shadowzerks, but a good one for game balance.

 

[elvothesorc]

You cant compare with Havoc.

The nerf was the LA styles. So you cant use axes styles to compare.

And hes dmg is so high cause warriors are on THE highest damage table in the game.

And as you said, he were using chain, you studded.

Come back when you got some real testing.

 

[censi]

And I mean WTF is 138 dmg??

This figure is subtracted from your opponents hit point pool. When that pool gets to 0 your opponent dies. Before the patch your class was rather effect at removing that pool. After the patch your class is not quite so effective. Your class is still more effective at removing that HP pool than other LW tanks in your catagory.

Roll a savage. I hear they are good at removing hit point pools too....

 

[Blazor Meneth]

So Axe>LA? always?
No savage, will stay zerk but with a bored smile.

So you think that unstyled warrior dmg (on studdeD)should be better then zerks styled (~lvl 38style,on chain) dmg

//Edit

Yes pin I tested the styles more then once, df was down at 117 at the lowest I think (vs the warrior) so just picked one that was in the middle of all the hits.

 

[Pin]

So you tested by using slash against 27% absorb and 10% bonus resist. While he used slash against 19% absorb and 10% vulnerability and you expect to see similar damage? That's a 30% difference.

Nevermind that you swing follow-ups faster and get past shield easier, etc.

And that you only tested 1 hit from each so haven't accounted for any variability.

 

[old.Outlaw]

Let me get this str8, Mythic identified a problem/bug with Zerkers, nerfed/fixed it, and then (or thereabouts ) invented the Savage/Bug. Strange.

 

[saltymcpepper]

roll your fricking merc allready outlaw

 

[sorusi]

all makes sence to me..

#1 improve buff bots (this way everyone has to get one to fight equal )

#2 nerf sb's (now they will have to rely on useing 2h/LA and do high base dmg since style damage was nerfed) and haste rocks for base dmg -> they wanted these fellows to get haste bots too

#3 nerf zerkers, ok whole vnboards was whineing about zerkres so they had to do something, and they nerfed zerkers.

same time they add savages, so that the "zerkers" can keep playing the savages, with hope that they will do the "uber" dmg they once had (ie keep them in the game)

 

[grothe_rudash]

gr8 m8, yu0 s3t 1t str8

 

[old.Isos]

haha they probably just changed zerker damage table to an alb one....

 

[sorusi]

yep and keept the insane end cost for LA styles :>

 

[Blazor Meneth]

VS studded as requested (SC).
Havoc beats LA anytime styles.
Snowsquall still bettter then the axe behind style.


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[20:50:14] You perform your Doublefrost perfectly. (+129)
[20:50:14] You attack Corith with your axe and hit for 206 (-42) damage!
[20:50:14] Corith is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[20:50:14] You hit Corith for 42 damage!
[20:50:14] Corith evades your attack!

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[20:50:17] You prepare to perform a Snowblind!
[20:50:18] You perform your Snowblind perfectly. (+99)
[20:50:18] You attack Corith with your axe and hit for 172 (-35) damage!
[20:50:18] Corith parries your attack!
[20:50:19] Corith is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[20:50:19] You hit Corith for 51 damage!

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[20:50:21] You prepare to perform a Snowsquall!
[20:50:22] You perform your Snowsquall perfectly. (+177)
[20:50:22] You attack Corith with your axe and hit for 250 (-51) damage!
[20:50:22] You attack Corith with your axe and hit for 49 (-10) damage!
[20:50:23] Corith is surrounded by an acidic cloud!
[20:50:23] You hit Corith for 52 damage!
[20:50:27] Corith is surrounded by an acidic cloud!

 

[Pin]

buffed?

 

[Blazor Meneth]

None neither me or him.

 

[kinag]

Im having alot of fun playing my zerker Blazor, how can you be bored just because the damage is lower? still same gameplay
Get some warriors/savages to assist you and you should do great for once mids need good balanced groups isntead of a group filled with zerkers, there is still the savage tho...
But as I said, im having alot of fun..

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Yeah maybe just be, haven't really tested a good rvr grp yet since the patch just got so frustrated when tried some dmg on own team mates

Haven't been in one emain/odins grp with healer/shaman/skald since patch day actually
We'll you'll see me out there tonight but still frustrated about unstyled vs style

 

[Subbiz]

stop whine. at the end of the day its not your damage, but your teamplay that wins the fight.

if u want damage, roll a troll warrior 2h 50 sword and hit some casters in the back. once every 2 hrs ull break 2k damage probably.

 

[Subbiz]

Originally posted by kinag
Im having alot of fun playing my zerker Blazor, how can you be bored just because the damage is lower? still same gameplay
Get some warriors/savages to assist you and you should do great for once mids need good balanced groups isntead of a group filled with zerkers, there is still the savage tho...
But as I said, im having alot of fun..

or just get a couple of savages :sleeping:

 

[adari]

Originally posted by gunner440
May you find that love never leave you
may you find it by the end of the day
you wont be lost, hurt tired and lonely
something beautiful will come your way

May you find that love that won't leave you

kaka

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Have I said that I want to do THE MOST dmg on the server sub? (wouldn't be a d0rf if I wanted to do most dmg as you said)
Just said that I wanted to do more then a unstyled axe warrior

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Blazor Meneth
None neither me or him.

and who the hell RvRs unbuffed?

do some proper tests

 

[Subbiz]

Originally posted by Blazor Meneth
Have I said that I want to do THE MOST dmg on the server sub? (wouldn't be a d0rf if I wanted to do most dmg as you said)
Just said that I wanted to do more then a unstyled axe warrior

my point was:

your damage doesnt win fights. teamplay does

there's several ways to get high damage hits for fancy ss, but it wont be worth much really.

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Did some snowsquall + icq and ab on a shaman (chain)

Buffed vs shaman (chain)

[18:46:28] You perform your Snowsquall perfectly. (+189)
[18:46:28] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 304 (-45) damage!
[18:46:28] You miss!

[18:46:29] You prepare to perform a Icy Brilliance!
[18:46:31] You perform your Icy Brilliance perfectly. (+198)
[18:46:31] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 295 (-44) damage!
[18:46:31] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 81 (-12) damage!
[18:46:31] Kimpaii is bleeding!
[18:46:31] You hit Kimpaii for 7 damage!

[18:46:32] You prepare to perform a Aurora Borealis!
[18:46:33] You perform your Aurora Borealis perfectly. (+227)
[18:46:33] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 333 (-50) damage!
[18:46:33] You critical hit for an additional 53 damage!
[18:46:33] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 70 (-10) damage!
[18:46:33] You hit for 41 (-7) damage!
[18:46:36] Kimpaii is bleeding!
[18:46:36] You hit Kimpaii for 7 damage!

[18:48:23] You perform your Doublefrost perfectly. (+153)
[18:48:23] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 282 (-42) damage!
[18:48:23] You miss!

[18:48:31] You perform your Havoc perfectly. (+129)
[18:48:31] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 235 (-35) damage!
[18:48:31] You critical hit for an additional 96 damage!
[18:48:31] You attack Kimpaii with your axe and hit for 75 (-11) damage!
[18:48:31] You critical hit for an additional 7 damage!

LA>Axe buffed.

 

[VodkaFairy]

thats nice dmg imo.

 

[tildson]

Who cares about havoc, compare it to Plague instead - Havoc isnt anytime, its frontal positional. Something that is hard to pull off than back-pos in RvR (end-game etc).

And check the damage on SS compared to Evernight, wow!

 

[solvin]

Yeah, zerks do horrible damage. Was one-shot by one for 923 + 2xx damage a little while ago.
Before the patch that would have been a nice 2k hit I imagine.