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Vladamir

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censi said:
yer fair play but the fatal consequence of that is it means your prolly a <cant even say it now ffs> irl.

(which is your problem!)

Not really, i just do it because its fun :p
 

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Anyone who's been playing a stealther for more than just 20 mins on a friends toon would know that one of the harder challenges is to find a fight without adds, not to actually fight it anymore...
 

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i'd attack u, but then i'm a troll ;)
& usually if i'm solo i start mocshearing when i think it's about the last thing i could do b4 i'm going down, why should only i /rel & rb ;)
 

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Not really, i just do it because its fun

ofc meightor! but the thing that your missing is, its only fun is your a <cant even say it ffs> irl :)
 

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Wait, your argument for pro-buff bots is that everybody has them, they're a part of the game, its a necessary evil. But you can't accept that sheers could also fall into that category?
 

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Wait, your argument for pro-buff bots is that everybody has them, they're a part of the game, its a necessary evil. But you can't accept that sheers could also fall into that category?

not really. Just dont particulary like it when certain players are not interested in killing targets just sheering them then sitting down to die. seems like basically griefing to me. or??
 

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As a cleric, even if i fully buffshear my ''victim'' i will still get my ass handed to me if i dont then make a hasty withdrawl. Then again if i have range i will stun + smite :p
 

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censi said:
Rock.

especially ones that dont even fight back just sheer and then sit for death.


Anyones else have bad experiences with this kind of stuff?

Every realm does it. Probably atleast a couple times a night soloing at DC. A druid will root, and buff shear you, and then run away. And thanks for removing dmg from buff shears, means i can't do jack all now with being rooted. Lets just sit and wait for me buffs to go, and then wait for the random zergers to come own me as the druid runs to tower guards.:(

It sucks, they should change it so soloers arn't affected to much by it. Like is just greys out the buffs, and 2 minutes later they should come back.

Not like it will affect fg v fg fights as they wont last long enough to make a difference. It's just lame you boat for 10 minutes to find ure self buffless as you hit the shore. All it does is promote camping ure doorstop meaning no one fights anyone.
 

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and then wait for the random zergers to come own

yer sorry about that meight i didnt realise you didnt have buffs! :)
 

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Tilda said:
Working as intended tbh.
Don't attack them if you cant handle them.
Stealth classes are lucky enough to be able to choose who they can attack and who they can't, its really simple, if you cant cope with them, or kill them, dont attack.
Now if a visible class made this thread, they might have a point but as a stealther has, its not even worth arguing about.

Maby this is news for you, but i will take it slow, just in case.
We lose our stealth while in fight! :)
So while we are in the fight a cheerer can pop from clipping ranger ore
just being hiding behind some rock and buff cheer us just for fun while we run away to save our poor weak body.
 

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i play solo some times :kissit: but i dont mind getting buffed raped at the end of the day you can go die on guards. Just think seerer takeing away you buffs or a Caster nukeing the crap out of you Give more solo Seer that shear and sit to die :fluffle:
 

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Aiteal said:
And a wonderful contribution to the thread by yourself.

Buffshear spells are one of the many things that are "balanced" I guess in FG action but have disproportionate effect on the smaller game.

Saw a US vid of a convoker druid taking on multiple opponents with root, buffshear and the ML'ed pet.

Was quite "impressive" that a pure group class could solo so well.

Thats the Lios Alfar Druid isn't it? he has something like 20million rp's
 

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This thread made me laugh, people dont like it that a class which can buff, can also shear buffs.

what does it matter if he shears you and then sits down, you still get your rp's....oh wait, you wanna be able to pwn him without taking any dmg or loosing any buffs.

as for the full groups shearing solo'ers thats fucking awesome! in real war you throw grenades...not to kill opponents, but to maim them, and then make the other soldiers have to carry their wounded thus slowing them down.

If they shear a stealther it means he has to spend time suiciding or running back to rebuff. that will make him spend far more time than simply killing him and knowing he will be back out there in a few minutes.

Its part of the game mechanics, it may not be something you like, but its not breaking any rules. Also the people who "waste other players time" are actually helping their realm.
 

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Bahumat said:
in real war you throw grenades...not to kill opponents, but to maim them

GRENADE!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Soldier1: you got them good!!
Soldier2: shit, you killed one of them
Soldier3: ffs
 

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eggy said:
GRENADE!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Soldier1: you got them good!!
Soldier2: shit, you killed one of them
Soldier3: ffs

More like tear gas tbh ;)
 

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Bahumat said:
This thread made me laugh, people dont like it that a class which can buff, can also shear buffs.

what does it matter if he shears you and then sits down, you still get your rp's....oh wait, you wanna be able to pwn him without taking any dmg or loosing any buffs.

as for the full groups shearing solo'ers thats fucking awesome! in real war you throw grenades...not to kill opponents, but to maim them, and then make the other soldiers have to carry their wounded thus slowing them down.

If they shear a stealther it means he has to spend time suiciding or running back to rebuff. that will make him spend far more time than simply killing him and knowing he will be back out there in a few minutes.

Its part of the game mechanics, it may not be something you like, but its not breaking any rules. Also the people who "waste other players time" are actually helping their realm.

in a game where all sides are equally populated and you also have a constant flow of action allover the place and there is an actual WAR, your argument is solid but DAoC isnt really that since the introduction of RP's so.. cant really agree with you. Shearing is annoying but there are far more irritating things out there imo, like.. zergers, adders, griefers etc. Griefing in any form though in todays DAoC doesnt maim the "enemy" anymore, it cause people to leave the game since it further adds to the crappiness state of the game for alot of people so I guess in one way you are right, if maiming = enemyplayers quit the game then yea, you are right. I guess thats one way to play :)
 

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Bahumat said:
This thread made me laugh, people dont like it that a class which can buff, can also shear buffs.

what does it matter if he shears you and then sits down, you still get your rp's....oh wait, you wanna be able to pwn him without taking any dmg or loosing any buffs.

as for the full groups shearing solo'ers thats fucking awesome! in real war you throw grenades...not to kill opponents, but to maim them, and then make the other soldiers have to carry their wounded thus slowing them down.

If they shear a stealther it means he has to spend time suiciding or running back to rebuff. that will make him spend far more time than simply killing him and knowing he will be back out there in a few minutes.

Its part of the game mechanics, it may not be something you like, but its not breaking any rules. Also the people who "waste other players time" are actually helping their realm.

Not the same thing.

Same thing woud be if my HP whent down like i woud break my hand ore something.
Then i need to rest to get my HP back like a man in the army need to rest to get his hand fixed.
If Mythic woud like to have longer rest time, then they have to give us slower HP regain.
But now i need to suicide!?
Do you whant to have BB's? do you whan't to have BB's in Warhamer aswell?
I hate my BB, use to slap him :p
But i need to have my bb, otherwise it woud be unbalanced. It's fucked upp imo.

Few mins? takes atleast 5 min to get somewear. if i am not playing in my own frontier ofc.

If you still think this is awesome, then i will need to piss on your face :D and slap my bot twise today.
 

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censi said:
Rock.

especially ones that dont even fight back just sheer and then sit for death.


Anyones else have bad experiences with this kind of stuff?

Not me this one,but got one more fun xD

Runing behind a ranger by the water from Surbr Tower to Caer Erasleigh+ keep to finally kill her xD but is not the fun, it is that the ranger had a guard hiting her all the way in water, me on horse and still i cant cacht her XD; could swim to Dun Bolg or something, but i think she had to much shame of herself thinking that the Wizz could start think rare things if this X-file went on more in time ... :p
 

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Shike said:
in a game where all sides are equally populated and you also have a constant flow of action allover the place and there is an actual WAR, your argument is solid but DAoC isnt really that since the introduction of RP's so.. cant really agree with you. Shearing is annoying but there are far more irritating things out there imo, like.. zergers, adders, griefers etc. Griefing in any form though in todays DAoC doesnt maim the "enemy" anymore, it cause people to leave the game since it further adds to the crappiness state of the game for alot of people so I guess in one way you are right, if maiming = enemyplayers quit the game then yea, you are right. I guess thats one way to play :)

Imo its all in the way people think when they execute and action.
First of all for me a thing happening in game doesnt really bother me that much....all is fair in love and war.
Even though i usually play "fair"

Same with adding/sheering etc. if people add on me cause they really play like that , i dont think about it much.
Griefing goes much deeper. Its when someone goes out of the way to destroy my gaming experience.
That doesnt happen very often..

Situasion when i DO think it happends, are when a buff sheerer class know he isnt even gonna be in a fight with me.
And just decides to sheer me cause he know he destroys my run...
Also when a fg or more runs by and im sitting down/dancing etc,
- and they just wack me down and emtoes me:p
Thats when i think people can think a bit^^
eb.
 

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ebenezer said:
Imo its all in the way people think when they execute and action.
First of all for me a thing happening in game doesnt really bother me that much....all is fair in love and war.
Even though i usually play "fair"

Same with adding/sheering etc. if people add on me cause they really play like that , i dont think about it much.
Griefing goes much deeper. Its when someone goes out of the way to destroy my gaming experience.
That doesnt happen very often..

Situasion when i DO think it happends, are when a buff sheerer class know he isnt even gonna be in a fight with me.
And just decides to sheer me cause he know he destroys my run...
Also when a fg or more runs by and im sitting down/dancing etc,
- and they just wack me down and emtoes me:p
Thats when i think people can think a bit^^
eb.

there are tons of situations one can twist and turn around and its just one of those subjects that can be debated forever and ever since we all are fundamentally different in how we play the game and what we consider to be a fair and decent playstyle :)
 

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Shike said:
there are tons of situations one can twist and turn around and its just one of those subjects that can be debated forever and ever since we all are fundamentally different in how we play the game and what we consider to be a fair and decent playstyle :)


aye:)
 

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Kagato said:
Buff shears should never of been added in any form. Simply no point in fighting a buff shear class, even if you win you still lose as you have to return back to the boarderkeep regardless. probably just to get jumped by other fully buffed enemies who do/don't know your sheared and will think they had an easy win.
Buff shears is one of the best things in this game not for soloers but in fg rvr. Having a timer on bs or so would just be shit. With good support the other grp gets sheard fast and your own grp gets rebuffed much, much faster then a silly timer(say 3 min). Having shears on cleric, shammy and druids is just great but no other classes should have it (hello valk's, tic's).

From your solo view of everything I can agree it's shit, but not for fg's.
 

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censi said:
Rock.

especially ones that dont even fight back just sheer and then sit for death.


Anyones else have bad experiences with this kind of stuff?

Keep on MoC sharing buffs, only way to go. Keep up the good work fellow Shamans, Droods and Clerics
 

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Runing behind a ranger by the water from Surbr Tower to Caer Erasleigh+ keep to finally kill her xD but is not the fun, it is that the ranger had a guard hiting her all the way in water, me on horse and still i cant cacht her XD; could swim to Dun Bolg or something, but i think she had to much shame of herself thinking that the Wizz could start think rare things if this X-file went on more in time ...

are you accusing me of some sort of water bug abuse? maybe ask yourself how you kept getting into spell range to cast and dismount then get out of range and have to remount stationary and catch up.

thats how I managed to get so far and it only took you 5 minutes to realise you actually needed to get right near to me before you start casting.

oh and keep up with the adding meight. Remeber though I will meet you on your tod one day and you will be face down though...
 

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Be glad this isn't the prenerf FZ days...

1) You start your run
2) FG inc
3) Zephyred...
4) Buffsheared...
5) Zephyred...
6) Damaged to <10%
7) Diseased
8) Messed
9) Emoted
10) FG takes off :>
 

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Hmm...

Nuxtobatns said:
As a stealther.. u can have a fight..and the buff shearing class can come after and shear u...that aint a point. Also .. not all classes can quickly kill an enemy after losing some buffs

Just a thought...if the class that added (or joined in just after you were done whichever you meant) had been any other class he would just have taken you out. Is that better than beeing shared ?

/Charmangle
 

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well shammy, cleric or druid sheer equals dead tbh.

you cant fight other opponents with like af, and haste, when they got the full array, and I would say like 1 in 100 opponents u meet is unbuffed, so you cant really just carry on with your runs.

plus u dont wanna fight without buffs you might loose to some newb who thinks he owns you forever!
 

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