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Welsh nationalism on the rise as young people back independence
The pro-independence campaign group YesCymru has 17,000 members with 25,000 people pledging to back a referendum on Wexit
That's the wrong type of nationalism!!!!111oneoneone![]()
Welsh nationalism on the rise as young people back independence
The pro-independence campaign group YesCymru has 17,000 members with 25,000 people pledging to back a referendum on Wexitwww.telegraph.co.uk
Again, it's economic problems that are at the base of this. Just like with Brexit. Just like with Trump.That's the wrong type of nationalism!!!!111oneoneone
It's not a response to the blatant English nationalism in Westminster then? Wales has been on the end of the economic shitty stick for decades without a large rise in independence sentiment.Again, it's economic problems that are at the base of this. Just like with Brexit. Just like with Trump.
What's that? A shade under 1% of the population? I would imagine Wales always has at least that many people who want independence.![]()
Welsh nationalism on the rise as young people back independence
The pro-independence campaign group YesCymru has 17,000 members with 25,000 people pledging to back a referendum on Wexitwww.telegraph.co.uk
Polls put the number of people backing independence at over double what they were a few years ago. Maybe not something to worry about right now, but worth keeping an eye on.What's that? A shade under 1% of the population? I would imagine Wales always has at least that many people who want independence.
Not in my experience. No.It's not a response to the blatant English nationalism in Westminster then? Wales has been on the end of the economic shitty stick for decades without a large rise in independence sentiment.
Good luck in that while still being attached to England.They don't want to have to leave home and go to the big smoke to have prospects - but that's where they are really. Fundamentally, it's economics - yes, exploitative wankers can point at <whatever> and use it - but nobody listens to them if they're economically comfortable.
Affects the english too. Just how many of us live by where we grew up?Good luck in that while still being attached to England.
Yep, way too London centric, and I say that as someone who lives in zone 2.Affects the english too. Just how many of us live by where we grew up?
Norway did come up in a reply:NO, NO NO, Unicorns, sharting gold!
It's all the oil money you see.
Responding to the analysis, Fiona Hyslop, the Scottish Government’s Economy Secretary, said: “As an independent member of the EU, free from the damage of Brexit, Scotland would be part of the huge single market, which is seven times the size of the UK.”
She argued there was “no reason whatsoever” why Scotland could not emulate the success of similar-sized independent countries, which were far wealthier per head than the UK, noting how Norway’s GDP was nearly 40% higher than the UK’s.
It would be interesting to see the same type of analysis done for NI; I would imagine the outcome would be rather different.![]()
People would be up to £2,800 a year worse off in independent Scotland, claims new research
INDEPENDENCE would “leave Scotland considerably poorer,” hitting its economy up to three times harder than Brexit and leaving Scots as much as…www.heraldscotland.com
Neither does Norway - both the UK and Norway have about 8-10 years' left (Norway 5m barrels, UK 3m). Difference is what they've spent their oil money on already, not what's still there.Scotland does not have Norway’s oil ....
Scots, Irish and Welsh would still be living in caves if it wasn't for the English.Huzzah another independence argument as well as everything else.
Hook.Scots, Irish and Welsh would still be living in caves if it wasn't for the English.
/bait
The English reap what they sowHuzzah another independence argument as well as everything else.
Fuck ourselves over to fuck over Scotland slightly more?Jesus christ who resurrected this thread? How many years ago did I make it?
Anyway, I think Westminster is the problem for pretty much anywhere that isn't London. Levelling up? Northern powerhouse? We're all lied to and treated like scum.
I think if Scotland get indy the Tories will fuck them over royally. Hard border etc. I think 60% of Scotlands exports are to the rUK, they'd tariff the piss out of those. It's a worrying and risky move but all should be fine in a few generations (life not political generations).
Never, ever the Tories that get fucked over though is it? They've all had their payday, pound of flesh. Stripped all the assets. It's the little people that get fucked.Fuck ourselves over to fuck over Scotland slightly more?
Yeah, sounds pretty Tory to be fair.