Rant Scammed.

Ceixah

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Couldn't tell you exact length I think for the duration of his bail for now - although last I heard he was still in custody. reading up now
 

DaGaffer

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they can be banned from owning/using computers for X time though cant they ? thought they can do that for cyber crimes.. or is that in the US only, cant remember :/

Not in the EU. There isn't specific legislation to let the powers that be do that, except;

Nope,

they can be banned from using any device that has the ability to access the internet.

the guy that was apparently in Lulzsec Ryan Cleary has been banned from using any device that can access the net!

...as a condition of his bail. He hasn't been convicted of anything yet, and even if he is, see above, there's no laws to let a judge ban you from accessing a computer or the internet, and these days, no practical way to enforce such a prohibition anyway. Its one of the problems with all the "three strikes" proposals for kicking people offline; an ISP can refuse to sell you access, but Data Protection Rules mean you can simply go to another provider, and a judge has no power to issue a blanket ban.

There is a small loophole for the authorities if they use anti-terror laws (and internet bans in the US have more teeth for this type of reason) but in the UK and EU even that is time-limited.
 

Damini

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So I got woken up by a phone call from the police this morning, just updating my details. 146 crimes being put against the scammers - that's the ones up until the cut off point in March.

Last year.

So plenty more crimes being "taken into account", but not actively tried. Cash haul? 136k. That they know about.

And yes, they are *still* scamming.
 

TdC

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that's disgusting Dams :( I hope they get the works tbh!
 

Damini

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I tell you what though, I do love the digital age, in conjunction with people being retards. If i wasn't such an upstanding, law abiding citizen, it would be the easiest thing in the world to turn up on the doorstep, or at one of their gigs.

If you are going to be a criminal, at least invent an alias, and make it a little more difficult. And no, I don't mean putting an extra i in your name, Calv1n. That didn't work.
 

ECA

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I would call myself Sir Drinksalot Mcstealyourstuff if I was a criminal. If questioned on my alias I would blame my celebrity parents.

Plausible Deniability.
 

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I would call myself Sir Drinksalot Mcstealyourstuff if I was a criminal. If questioned on my alias I would blame my celebrity parents.

Plausible Deniability.

Is Plausible Deniability your mum or your dad?
 

Tom

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They'll get a suspended sentence and will plead poverty, repaying their debts at £10 a week.

And they'll still go out scamming.
 

Damini

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He's still got to be sentenced yet. And I'm rather disappointed they didn't kick the door in. And by door, I mean face.
 

Sockstuff

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Shame they didn't get to bash the door down, he would have pissed in his mums knickers.
 

Nate

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How longs he gonna be away for though? 2 weeks?
 

Damini

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They're probably used to the routine, since his Dad and brother were nicked before him.

Nice family.
 

MYstIC G

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And by face you mean testicles?
 

TdC

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Lou I must say that I am extremely proud of you for not letting this slip. extremely proud indeed. just so you know.
 

Ctuchik

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Someone asked how they knew they were fraudsters, i'm so tempted linking to this thread... :)
 

Kahland

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Any dealing with tickets from the black market is bad. Even you, buying them.

Is this not illegal in .co.uk ?

I think you're as guilty as he is!
 

Damini

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It's not illegal, no. Sadly, it's pretty much the only way to buy them in the UK, as touts buy every single ticket as soon as they go on sale.

Care to explain why I'm so bad for buying them this way? Especially as I refused to pay anything over cost price for them, because I will not allow anyone to profit from holding tickets to ransom? I'd rather not see a band, than pay over the odds and let someone profit. I'm stubborn and principled like that.

But hey, you're right. I'm obviously just as bad as he is, and he's stolen over 135k of money from people, including children, and people with disabilities. How dare I try to get hold of a ticket for a band I've wanted to see since I was 14? I might as well rape a puppy with a severed monk's dick. ITS THE SAME THING!!!!
 

Damini

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Awww... Tanks, Toto :)

I might have slightly over reacted, but since I've actually made public before my hatred of ticket touts, and joined campaigns to ban the resale of tickets for profit, it got my back up. I *hate* the fact that the only way for a music fan to lay hands on tickets involves being forced to turn to places like ebay, gumtree, and so on.
 

Kahland

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It's not illegal, no. Sadly, it's pretty much the only way to buy them in the UK, as touts buy every single ticket as soon as they go on sale.

Care to explain why I'm so bad for buying them this way? Especially as I refused to pay anything over cost price for them, because I will not allow anyone to profit from holding tickets to ransom? I'd rather not see a band, than pay over the odds and let someone profit. I'm stubborn and principled like that.

But hey, you're right. I'm obviously just as bad as he is, and he's stolen over 135k of money from people, including children, and people with disabilities. How dare I try to get hold of a ticket for a band I've wanted to see since I was 14? I might as well rape a puppy with a severed monk's dick. ITS THE SAME THING!!!!

Oh no, he scammed children and people and disabilities. Why is that worse than scamming you? stick to the facts. You shouldnt need to be extreme to prove your point. You're acting too much like the tabloid press.

I reckon you could have gotten yourself an article in the paper about this if you had a disability. This is not meant as an offense, just chill out dude.

Its indeed sad that the black market is peaking in .co.uk
 

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That is enough Kahland.
 

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