SB against Infiltrator

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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by Runolaz
[01:16:08] You perform your Snowblind perfectly. (+148)
[01:16:08] You attack Jax with your axe and hit for 280 (-21) damage!


[01:16:11] You perform your Snowblind perfectly. (+133)
[01:16:11] You attack Jax with your axe and hit for 252 (-19) damage!

[01:16:13] You perform your Snowblind perfectly. (+124)
[01:16:13] You attack Jax with your axe and hit for 236 (-18) damage!

[01:16:15] You are now preparing to perform a Snowblind style as a backup for Comeback!
[01:16:15] You perform your Snowblind perfectly. (+182)
[01:16:15] You attack Jax with your axe and hit for 313 (-24) damage!

:rolleyes:

Aye we're totally fine.
 
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ulke

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I'm donating 1p to Jax, he really, really needs sc-gear :eek:
 
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Carlos Bananos

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he has 7% or so slash resist, an extra 19% would knock around 60 dmg from the 313 snowblind (doublefrost still hits slightly harder..and comeback, FG, SS and IB harder still) knocking it down to 250...whcih is still 2x as hard as DW/CD can hit.
 
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Gekul

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DW/CD are hardly the benchmark for working style lines though...
 
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belth

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Originally posted by Gekul
DW/CD are hardly the benchmark for working style lines though...

They are when it comes to DW lines. Shit happens, eh? Get used to it.
 
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Aloca

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DW/CD is working as planned tho LA is (soon was) overpowered.

This has been so much fun reading.
Peps say: SBs will be game worst gimps after nerf etc etc...
I say they will have exctly same stuff as a NS, (infils still need that 2.5 removed)
what i know cs is the same in all realms and that is what all shades are using.

So stfu now you have the skill lines as the other assassins.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by Aloca
DW/CD is working as planned tho LA is (soon was) overpowered.

This has been so much fun reading.
Peps say: SBs will be game worst gimps after nerf etc etc...
I say they will have exctly same stuff as a NS, (infils still need that 2.5 removed)
what i know cs is the same in all realms and that is what all shades are using.

So stfu now you have the skill lines as the other assassins.

They still dont have resistant armour
the ability to spec str/dex weapons
Avoid Pain RA
WA RA
A decent class specific RA (Shadowrun hardly compares to viper or vanish..)
no 1st chain evade stun

So no, they wont have exactly the same as other assasins had.
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
:rolleyes:

Aye we're totally fine.

Jupp it's overpowered vs gimped INF's, but the real world against INF that have everything maxed is this:

[02:52:07] You perform your Comeback perfectly. (+133)
[02:52:07] You attack Remi with your axe and hit for 161 (-63) damage!
[02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 80 damage of your attack!
[02:52:07] You attack Remi with your axe and hit for 41 (-16) damage!
[02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 20 damage of your attack!

Now take away 20% form relics and another 35-40% ~ SB a destroyed class vs INF/NS. The problem with LA is that for assassin balance you have to look at the dmg they are doing debuffed. If you let the SB do dmg to you at full str you have lost in the first place.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by Runolaz
Jupp it's overpowered vs gimped INF's, but the real world against INF that have everything maxed is this:

[02:52:07] You perform your Comeback perfectly. (+133)
[02:52:07] You attack Remi with your axe and hit for 161 (-63) damage!
[02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 80 damage of your attack!
[02:52:07] You attack Remi with your axe and hit for 41 (-16) damage!
[02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 20 damage of your attack!

well..

You do 241 mainhand damage, and 61 offhand (15 dps handaxe im guessing?) and you admit being DEBUFFED, against a realm rank 7 infil, one of the best at that.

note: [02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 80 damage of your attack! (ie if the AA shield hadn't gone off, your dmg would have been 241.)

now, 20% from 241 is 196 (2 seperate 10% relics, so would be 241 - 24 = 217 - 21 = 196)

then 35-40% from that aswell..and your still doing more Damage than Remi (The realm rank 7-8 infil with a ton of RAs when he's using a good lvl buffbot) unless he gets in a lucky high crit.

fyi the damage absorbed by the BARRIER ALONE is higher than most infils hit back for.


It's funny, most SBs nowadays sound like the chanters who say "our baseline nukes which cap everytime are totally fine".

seriously man, forget about the whine threads on ign, and count the amount of times you TOTAL spank an infil in 2-4 hits, you never really remember them, but theres more than you expect in 1 run in emain (always 1-2 camping mtk, mmg, amg, tower, atk, hills between atk-amg etc)
 
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Vasconcelos

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Ah!! So You are Paris!!!
Can remember you n Teza soloing emain and ganking my lonely n00bass merc in the old good days.






PS: +1
 
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Carlos Bananos

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got the char paris from a rl friend, when he'd just dinged 50, so if it was sub 50 it wasn't me :)
 
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Vasconcelos

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It was sub-50 (by the time a lvl 40+ was a purp cons :p:p)
 
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kaod

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
and you admit being DEBUFFED, against a realm rank 7 infil, one of the best at that.

Does Remi get hit for different values than other RR7 Infils because he's one of the best? ;)

1.63 Nerf the man - not the class. ;)
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by kaod
Does Remi get hit for different values than other RR7 Infils because he's one of the best? ;)

1.63 Nerf the man - not the class. ;)


better than other infils in general, in the sense he has resists :)

skill in daoc = items ;)
 
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kaod

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
better than other infils in general, in the sense he has resists :)

skill in daoc = items ;)

Hehe - I don't really agree with skill = items though.

I use crappy items, always have done and I do ok, not bothered with SC.
Edit: And I spent months with 23 rsp to use because the choices were crap.

Skill = timing, knowledge of enemies and classes and tactics really IMHO.

Items in Daoc can make up for lack of skill in daoc. ;)
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by kaod
Hehe - I don't really agree with skill = items though.

I use crappy items, always have done and I do ok, not bothered with SC.
Edit: And I spent months with 23 rsp to use because the choices were crap.

Skill = timing, knowledge of enemies and classes and tactics really IMHO.

Items in Daoc can make up for lack of skill in daoc. ;)

well yea, i guess thats more accurate :)
 
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froler-mid

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Originally posted by Runolaz

[02:52:07] You perform your Comeback perfectly. (+133)
[02:52:07] You attack Remi with your axe and hit for 161 (-63) damage!
[02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 80 damage of your attack!
[02:52:07] You attack Remi with your axe and hit for 41 (-16) damage!
[02:52:07] A barrier absorbs 20 damage of your attack!



this one is better:

runolas_heal_pls.jpg



:D
 
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froler-mid

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Originally posted by Runolaz
was unstyled :p

got you earlier today though :)

it was in that fight.....i procced like 10times etc...still u got me?
+i got PA in. + you are rr4...im rr9.....................................





NERF imo.
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by froler-mid
it was in that fight.....i procced like 10times etc...still u got me?
+i got PA in. + you are rr4...im rr9.....................................

NERF imo.

Hmm...you missed your CD. I purged your debuff. I evaded like 5-6 times and I had like 1% hp left. You fumbled. I was extreamly lucky with evades etc, you were not. Get purge and don't always walk with the zerg :p
 
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froler-mid

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Originally posted by Runolaz
Hmm...you missed your CD. I purged your debuff. I evaded like 5-6 times and I had like 1% hp left. You fumbled. I was extreamly lucky with evades etc, you were not. Get purge and don't always walk with the zerg :p


lols....didnt miss my CD.....never use it vs sbs....

i was solo.


well....purge >> me anyways....
 
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Lomald Umilinn

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
better than other infils in general, in the sense he has resists :)

skill in daoc = items ;)

Can't ever remember the day that 28% slash resistance, and complete MP af 102 suit helped me vs LA styles :), fyi I haven't fought a sb since dragonstones implemented that can't hit me for less then 180 in opening (compared to my uberness 70 if lucky).
Hell my offhand weapon hits for double the damage of my mainhand using the thrust anytime style.

Can show logs if you want to ;). Its usually this way:
You perform your Tranquilzer perfectly!
You hit <xxx> for 50(-30) damage! (main hand)
You hit <xxx> for 100(-47) damage! (offhand)

Thats a normal thrust opening :) using this spec:
50 Thrust
34 Dual Wield

Edit: using Dualists Reflexes III as RA to at least hit with offhand since we dont swing every round ;>

Hell, i even see RR2 sbs that can easily chain off 1000 damage on me and i have to deal with getting 200 off and really hoping for an evade.

Debuffed or un-debuffed .. sbs hits for way more then intended to when using LA spec :). I usually debuff sb, sb debuffs me .. usual fights .. still he do tripple my damage on my hardest hiting style (Wyvernfang) even when im fully buffed and using MP Guarded Rapier.
 

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