Rift

[eksdee]

CC inherently makes it more than a DPS vs healing race. Therein lies the point you apparently are having a hard time grasping.

I played Warhammer for 1-2 years in what was seen by a large amount of the playerbase as the best 1fg guild that ever played the game - not much to brag about in Warhammer since 99% of the playerbase were mouth breathers anyway - but irrespective of that, if you honestly believe Warhammer had some kind of deep and meaningful PvP that went beyond a DPS race, you're either an idiot or completely ignorant of the facts.

 

[Huntingtons]

(...)
So what else do we got? Is it so freaking hard to make a 3 realm pvp game! (...)

The Secret World will be 3 faction game with PvP zones

 

[Punishment]

The Secret World will be 3 faction game with PvP zones

Meh tbh it doesn't look jaw dropping and i don't like the look of the game world

 

[Huntingtons]

what are you talking about? HP Lovecraft, cthulhu, demons and other sinister doomspawn, awesome viral campaigns, cool skill system and other goodies like London, New York and Shanghai! im looking forward to it big time!

 

[Punishment]

what are you talking about? HP Lovecraft, cthulhu, demons and other sinister doomspawn, awesome viral campaigns, cool skill system and other goodies like London, New York and Shanghai! im looking forward to it big time!

Meh !

 

[Zede]

I was slow to 50 in rift actually, it took me about a week or so, a bunch of guildies were there within 3-4 days.

18 days later and im L37, and thats playing 5 hours a day. I expect to ding 50 in a month. it's the getting there that counts.

 

[Punishment]

18 days later and im L37, and thats playing 5 hours a day. I expect to ding 50 in a month. it's the getting there that counts.

Same i got the game 6 days ago and only been playing maybe 3h a day and i just got 30 last night, fucking scarlet gorge you cant walk 5 feet w/o tripping over an artifact

 

[Punishment]

Hmm an i the only one who is getting kind of "Meh" about logging on ? + im having dirty thoughts about resubbing my 3 daoc accounts

 

[ECA]

hmm an i the only one who is getting kind of "meh" about logging on ? + im having dirty thoughts about playing korean tera

fyp.

 

[rynnor]

CC inherently makes it more than a DPS vs healing race. Therein lies the point you apparently are having a hard time grasping.

Heh - now you have come full circle to be contradicting your own article - nice one

 

[rynnor]

what are you talking about? HP Lovecraft, cthulhu, demons and other sinister doomspawn, awesome viral campaigns, cool skill system and other goodies like London, New York and Shanghai! im looking forward to it big time!

I love the idea of that one but I have serious doubts we will ever see it in retail

 

[Huntingtons]

I love the idea of that one but I have serious doubts we will ever see it in retail

are you kidding me? its funcom whos making it, they have gameplay trailer already

it will hit retail for sure

The Secret World | Funcom

they still have alot of work to do

 

[Vasconcelos]

The Secret World | Funcom

Help me Obi Wan, you are my only hope

 

[rynnor]

are you kidding me? its funcom whos making it, they have gameplay trailer already

it will hit retail for sure

The Secret World | Funcom

they still have alot of work to do

Awesome I still have a code for some kind of special goodie when it launches - got it from one of the puzzle games they set a few years back.

 

[Everz]

No MMO will ever compare to DAoC..shame but its true.

 

[rynnor]

I see a bunch of nerfs were briefly revealed in hotfix last night then moved back.

Chloromancer/Bard got hit hardest but tbh it was crazy that an afk pulser could top the healing - purifier? group heal also got nerfed - in general the affected heals went down to 5 targets and the chloromancer one went from base 30% proc to base 10% proc.

Is this the shape of things to come?

 

[Huntingtons]

chloromancer? Oo

 

[eksdee]

Heh - now you have come full circle to be contradicting your own article - nice one

No, you just clearly don't understand basic English.

 

[Bugz]

No MMO will ever compare to DAoC..shame but its true.

To an extent that is nostalgia blurring your vision. Everything featured in DAoC has been recreated elsewhere or had the potential to exist elsewhere. Set group vs set group never truly took off in WAR but there was the potential there for it. But to be honest, it was the players who did not want it, as such - not the developers trying to stop it.

Games have also moved away from the sheer level of communication exhibited between sides that was in place with DAoC. Communities being smart enough to co-create designated zones or provide ways to distribute equal-level fights is something that has been lost with time.

I would say that DAoC's time as being an early entrance to the new-era MMO market was one of the key factors in it's success.

 

[Raven]

It didn't have much success though...without having the actual figures, I very much doubt it broke the 1000,000 subscribers figure. It was sustained by below average but loyal subscriber levels. Even at its peak it was tiny compared to the likes of Everquest.

The reason for this was not that it wasn't very good, it's the fact that it wasn't marketed properly, if at all.

The 3 realm system is the best pvp system in any MMO so far and hasn't been repeated properly since. I would actually like to see a game which has more than 3 realms with some sort of political system where people can communicate with other realms, form and break allegiances etc. Though it would probably get ruined by idiots.

I really can't see that much of a future for the MMO in their current form, none of them bring anything drastically new to the table. With all the current MMOs It's is still a case just getting equipment so that you can get better equipment at the end of the day and like it or not, World of Warcraft is by far the most polished for this.

 

[eksdee]

Peak for DAoC was 250,000.

Agree with the nostalgia/time was right for it vibe of the above responses, but as also stated I believe the overarching factor that made DAoC PvP work was simply the three realms. Of course, instancing takes away from proper PvP a lot too, but that's a whole different issue.

 

[Laddey]

Laddey/Laddeh/Laddez


Playing around with a few chars, beastmaster and champ at the minute which seems fun

 

[rynnor]

No, you just clearly don't understand basic English.

Lol - you really shouldnt publish anything if you cant take simple criticism - I didnt even say it was shit, predictable or un-original and you went all handbags let alone your laughable e-peen waving 'we were the best group Evahh!!' nonsense.

Thanks for giving me some amusement

 

[eksdee]

Merely stating facts, read into it what you wish. You're simply wrong and misunderstood what I wrote, not my problem you apparently can't read very well.

Criticise all you like - but if you're wrong - in an objective sense here by the virtue that you're implying I said something that I didn't - then you're wrong, no ifs buts or maybes.

Edit, to be crystal clear as you obviously need this spoon fed to you: You seem to believe I wrote that, and I quote "WAR was a simple DPSvHealing race". This is not true, I wrote that "Warhammer is the crown prince of this [DPS race-style PvP]". This points to the major element of the PvP being a DPS race, it in no way states that is the ONLY thing in the PvP. If I were to write that, I would be a moron. Hence why I didn't.

You also seem to believe I contradicted myself by saying CC inherently breaks the chance of PvP being a DPS race, if you bother to read and understand what I wrote, you'll realise that was the entire point of that paragraph. Rift has exponentially more CC, thereby the PvP is more varied and un-DPS-race-like.

If you can't grasp the above, I can't think how to simplify it more for you, sorry.

 

[Vasconcelos]

*brings*

 

[eksdee]

I'm fully aware of how pathetic this is, I just have a severe distaste for being told I've written/said something I simply haven't. Pedantic, maybe, but whatever. Anyway, I believe the previous post sums up my position on it, I won't debase myself further by arguing such a non-issue.

 

[Zede]

and on a darker note, YOU CAN CHAT TO THE ENEMY.(edit. shout abuse)

/S
/Y

Works 0_o

 

[Dutch_NS]

DAOC is the best game still ill explain why.

3 realms
Different classes on all realms
Alot of crowd controll
Speed Classes
Positional styles
Healers/Casters cant cast when there hit, but shine when guarded or left alone.
PBAE aoe spells without a freaking cooldown
Good Stealth classes/system
Follow up Styles.

In DAOC when your guild group is good you can take on 50+ or even like dem hibbies/nolby pride/eclipse 100+

In WoW or Warhammer or every other wank MMO that is out now, you can have the best guild group, but if they got a few healers your fucked, they just can cast heals when your hitting them and that sucks.

We wont c a combat system like daoc cause idiots want to solo on healers/casters in pve and if they cant they whine or quit.

Sad but true DAOC will remain the best MMO ever, or i need to win 50 mil euro and ill make my own!

 

[Huntingtons]

I really can't see that much of a future for the MMO in their current form, none of them bring anything drastically new to the table. With all the current MMOs It's is still a case just getting equipment so that you can get better equipment at the end of the day and like it or not, World of Warcraft is by far the most polished for this.

TSW is the only one i can think of who will try and do something brilliant (besides the 3way PvP)

 

[Punishment]

and on a darker note, YOU CAN CHAT TO THE ENEMY.(edit. shout abuse)

/S
/Y

Works 0_o

Yea when i was 29 doing a quest in scarlet gorge some 33 healer class attacked me while i was fighting 3 mobs and killed me /laughed at me and ran off

Then 2 mins later i come back kill him on 50% twice while killing a mob until he walks up to me and goes off on one "OMG WHY GANK ??? Im doing quests "

To which i replied, Orly, and i just came here for the dwarf hookers ?