Realm rank, Title (importance?)

[cougar]

Everyone < RR10 Claims RR its directly proportional to Time spent. ok. So when I dropped Davidandgoliath and the Elf ( ml6.10 robes on ) lastnight at Amg, it was due to the time I was spending Playing. Er mmm Ok . Killing 3000 Midds every Fens raid, is due to the time spent Playing. Nice theory m8s.

They mean the player dont have to play better just because he is high rr, not that your character isnt better at high rr.

 

[[NO]Subedai]

High rr = experience,
Experienced players are more likely to win /do well than inexperienced ones.
If you're an experienced rvr'er with one char and role another (different not like mecr rolling a bm )you will be better than most, but will not be as good as someone who has had the same amout of experience as you, but entirely with that char.
At a certain level of experience you cap off and your true ability is easier to gage.
Therefore an rr7 group will beat and rr2 group even if at rr7, the rr2 group would turn out to be better players. However an rr10 group could well loose to an rr7 group if that rr7 group has better players. (when the rr is directly proportional to the amount of experience the players have, e.g the rr2 grp don't haverr10 alts).
High rr = experience
Experience with low skill> no experience with (potential) skill
Experience with skill > experience with low skill

it can be argued that experience=skill...when u look up the definitions of each of them in the dictionainry they are very similar. its also a willingness to learn, sum rr3 people will wajn and QQ about people telling them how to play when they do summin wrong and leave the grp etc. they culd stay like that to rr6 (if they ever got that far) and still suck. while sum1 who is willing to learn is gonna get alot better very fast. there is alot of skill in daoc and a large amount of that is teamwork and good communication. alot of it is decision making also which can be though as skill and experience.

 

[vintervargen]

RR has nothing to do with "skill". Only time spent.

i would say

time spent * RR = skill

 

[popa]

well
who got alot of rr get ra ( alot off ) but that dont save your life
tivock sell hes skald rr10 and who buy have no idea how too play
are ppl alter whit low rr and play very good
and are ppl who leacher all hes life and he play like hell
but the RR title hava inportance on 1vs1 alot of ppl rr 3 rr2 jump on stt he got title invader whit the ML and is rr10

soo even if u low rr but u know how too play get a good set ( and on 1vs1 u are a good strafer ) u can kick ass

 

[Aloca]

#1 Some people learn faster. #2 Also those than want to learn even if it take long time. #3 then there is those that think they know. #4 those that doesnt care at all. #5 and those that just cant learn even if they want.

The first 2 will be good on mostly any class they pick after they got some base experience in RvR. Maybe not first run, but after 2-3 runs they already doing better than most of the 3-5 people.
After played a week the "good" players should master their class to almost perfection. Why?
A few reasons someone will be good is that he know who his enemy is, what class and abilities they have. He know what to attack, who does dmg so be prepared to heal. he also have trained reactions for diffrent events. They dont need to think, they just act.

 

[Bracken]

Depends on the people I think, I generally don't associate high RR emainers as highly skilled players, just the ones who have spent alot of time there yelling lfg and zerging the same terrain over and over, they know what there expected to do in a group and thats it.

Its not necessarily a bad thing, it may well mean they have more detirmination then others but most wont know how to look after themselves if they ever faced an experianced soloer one on one. Which one could be classed as more skilled? an entirely different debate but I generally respect high realm rank people I know who can play alone and in groups good as being skilled rather then just high RR zergers.

Soloing is 90% class, spec and buffs, 10% skill. Grouping is 90% classes, specs, buffs, rr, ml and how well your group combines those factors as a unit, with 10% skill on top. In both cases you can't judge how "skillfull" a player is unless you spend a lot of time fighting with (or against) them - simply because there are too many other factors which affect outcomes.

 

[Fedaykin]

soon the <Pure Vision> group will be out in emain - running at RR1 from the start - i fully expect us to get owned by the high RR groups for a long time - BEcause they have much more tools on their classes and will have had much more experience playing their characters

When we get rr5 + things should start to even out a little

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i dont know whether i'd define daoc as needing "skilL" to be good - i do know however that some players suck more than others.

experience is king in my opinion - knowing exactly when to break off and mezz, or knowing when to hit sprint or when to face, when to purge and when to MoC, when to qq and when to DD

High realm rank players have this experience - they should know what to do in situations that arise - some people make the wrong call and some make the right one

i know many times in the NO pbaoe group opinions on situations were divided between the group - people saying we should have run to the room to fight instead of standing on the ground etc - high realm rank players with differing opinions on situations

 

[Clipse]

They mean the player dont have to play better just because he is high rr, not that your character isnt better at high rr.

stop being ironic, and just say what j00 mean oOOoOoOOOo

 

[Clipse]

#1 Some people learn faster. #2 Also those than want to learn even if it take long time. #3 then there is those that think they know. #4 those that doesnt care at all. #5 and those that just cant learn even if they want.

Im not being quick-witted here, but unfortunatly most of those who think they r #1 and #2, are infact #3 Since beta, peeps have been telling me how to play wizard, from Treniel at lvl 28 to Aussie At RR11 xD It only happens in RPG's, I hate it, in COH, people tell u how to play, in Lineage peeps tell u how to play, as if there is a rulebook set in stone, and everyone MUST play like this.

 

[Clipse]

people saying we should have run to the room to fight instead of standing on the ground etc - high realm rank players with differing opinions on situations

FIGHT !!!1!

 

[Stallion]

I find movement and using your surrounding area (inkl grp members) to your help in survival. (strafing not included) to be the true skill..Neglected abit with morphs.. teamplay and thinking as a grp is a top priority. solo performance is ofc skill in someways but its alot more class dependant/buff dependant. its easy to differ good from bad group players.. but look at it this way.. good players usaly pay 110% attention to the game. others read mirc while roaming or browse forums..while others pan and stay alert.

But good players can be seen as bad ones dependant on the situation and the ppl he plays with. I for certain know grp affects your playstyle and affection for the game. players way ahead of their grp usaly perfom worse as the good player is used to grp paying attention and with decent group play. while the others read mirc and browse forums.. the good player dies as he will be main target unsticking..

 

[cougar]

stop being ironic, and just say what j00 mean oOOoOoOOOo

i wasnt ironic

 

[vintervargen]

hmn stajj, so if someone read forums at the same times he's RvRing, that means hes a bad player?

 

[cougar]

hmn stajj, so if someone read forums at the same times he's RvRing, that means hes a bad player?

not only bad player, you might die if you are in wrong guild

 

[Stallion]

hmn stajj, so if someone read forums at the same times he's RvRing, that means hes a bad player?

no but it is an indication

 

[Powerslave]

agreeked with vintervargen, stajj, and cgr

i also want to add that high rr has nothing to do with someone being skilled as a player. for example:

- Alpha rr11, is a very skilled player

but

- Sst, is the worst rr11 n00b ive ever seen
- Vivisect, rr10 mincer who plays like he has an e-handicaped brain


(imo)

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

agreeked with vintervargen, stajj, and cgr

i also want to add that high rr has nothing to do with someone being skilled as a player. for example:

- Alpha rr11, is a very skilled player

but

- Sst, is the worst rr11 n00b ive ever seen
- Vivisect, rr10 mincer who plays like he has an e-handicaped brain


(imo)

commin from somebody who i have NEVER seen solo i find this comment rather funny

must take a lot of skill to run emain with 2-3 sb's/hunters watching yur back

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

There is no such thing as skill? How come it is possible that I was solo in emain and rooted a group with a sorc leading?

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that sorc burnt his toast

 

[Stallion]

commin from somebody who i have NEVER seen solo i find this comment rather funny

must take a lot of skill to run emain with 2-3 sb's/hunters watching yur back

says GANKSTAR!

 

[Tay]

Everyone < RR10 Claims RR its directly proportional to Time spent. ok. So when I dropped Davidandgoliath and the Elf ( ml6.10 robes on ) lastnight at Amg, it was due to the time I was spending Playing. Er mmm Ok . Killing 3000 Midds every Fens raid, is due to the time spent Playing. Nice theory m8s.

Actually I think the amount *you* kill is directly proportionate to the RA's and Time spent playing your char. If people want to equate that more RA's and more familiarity to Skill then so be it.

Unfortunatly skill+RR1 will *rarely* beat a High RR char..

I wish we could have a Fens every week I might get over my butt and play the wiz then

 

[Clipse]

some people are afk, when they are not afk. If u get what I mean

 

[Clipse]

Unfortunatly skill+RR1 will *rarely* beat a High RR char..

So explain Elwizardo and Eso Btw fyi , no is RR1 for longer than 1 hour.

 

[RaiztliN]

Im not being quick-witted here, but unfortunatly most of those who think they r #1 and #2, are infact #3 Since beta, peeps have been telling me how to play wizard, from Treniel at lvl 28 to Aussie At RR11 xD It only happens in RPG's, I hate it, in COH, people tell u how to play, in Lineage peeps tell u how to play, as if there is a rulebook set in stone, and everyone MUST play like this.

Word

 

[Outlaw]

RR does not dictate the good players, but imo the high RRs do r0x xD (if I can say that ;p)

A good sorc is blatantly better than a bad sorc, some clerics simply r0x, some do not. These players aren't limited to the rr10s+ tho.


For the HErbal dissers, as a cleric HErbal is Ubar. Ubar.

 

[Raven]

zoyster anyone? or as everyone else calls him, walking group purge

 

[Konah]

Vivisect, rr10 mincer who plays like he has an e-handicaped brain

skill is in the eye of the beholder?

viv is one of best grp mincers in alb no doubt of that, solo i wouldn't know.

and anyway, we all have good and bad days, unless ur some genetically engineered cyber athlete pro dood, or swedish :worthy:

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

says GANKSTAR!

im always solo on my scout

yes i add on fg v fg fights (every stealther does) but i dont have mincer/scout/inf bots /stuck to me like most other stealthers (including alb ones) have.. amount of times ive ts'd and seen a hunter/ranger or alb scouts with 1-2+ infils/sb's/ns /stuck to the archer is untrue

 

[Raven]

im always solo on my scout

yes i add on fg v fg fights (every stealther does)

not all do...

 

[Marczje]

raven explain: why should an archer not leech at all in fg vs fg fights, as when every fg ruins every 1v1 stealther battle they see? hypocrits

 

[Raven]

raven explain: why should an archer not leech at all in fg vs fg fights, as when every fg ruins every 1v1 stealther battle they see? hypocrits

i am not saying they shouldnt, i couldnt care less tbh, i am saying not all do, i dont.