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[Scouse]

Agree, good coffee is fricking awesome, but I can't justify the outlay of the necessary kit.

I drink tea until I go on holiday. Coffee's just something else that makes going on holiday cool.

 

[CorNokZ]

Real stuff lol, they are both processed to the hilt, they simply freeze dry the stuff in jars.

It's coffee snobbery, and you are simply regurgitating the marketing and advertising.

You have never been more wrong, and that says quite a lot in your case

 

[Raven]

He is wrong. But on the same note there is no magical field around europe that makes coffee taste better there. Its bollocks.

Good coffee tastes like good coffee everywhere. Bad coffee tastes like bad coffee.

 

[Raven]

Raven talking right out of his arse, as usual. I have a burr grinder and an espresso machine, not the world's most expensive combo but easily £600 or so of half decent kit.

I buy my beans from Pollards in Sheffield, who roast consistently good beans that give my coffee a decent head of crema. That's the thick gassy head, like on a pint of bitter, that simply does not appear on your supermarket rubbish. No matter how much you spend on off-the-shelf beans, they taste rank and bitter compared to something that's been roasted the week before.

For the uneducated, coffee beans go off. And with even the best coffee beans, if you don't extract the flavour from them correctly, they'll still taste rank. Wrong temperature, low pressure, over-extraction - it all matters.

The uneducated will say I'm talking nonsense, like good coffee is some kind of Monster-branded platinum directional speaker cable, but I bet anyone with no education could tell the difference between supermarket beans and properly-roasted beans. The difference is huge.

Oh and freeze-dried coffee is absolutely not the same as fresh coffee. It's like comparing powdered milk with fresh milk.

That is an awfully long and dreary wall of text to say exactly what i said. Good, properly prepared coffee is good coffee, bad is bad, geographical location is irrelevant.

Now if the idiot had said, "I have visited better coffee shops on the continent than the UK" that would be fine, but he didn't, he explicitly said that all coffee was bad in the uk, which would also include the coffee you buy.

If you visit a wanky chain coffee place, any of them, its expensive bad coffee, here or the continent. Statistically people will visit indies in foreign countries to try something different, rather than exactly what they have at home. At home they will visit chains because they are idle.

 

[Raven]

Edit. I mean, I never struggle to find a decent place for a coffee and a bit of lunch if I wanted to go out and pay someone to feed me, I never struggle to find decent beans (just started grinding my own, previous was pre-ground) for my machine.

I guess its like anything else, if you are too slow to do the homework and find decent places then you will be stuck with the chains and roadside cafes, same with anything.

Some people are happy (or in this case not, but unwilling/too lazy to find better) to follow the heard.

 

[CorNokZ]

I never said Europeans make better coffee. I have no grounds for doing so. What I stated was that the method plays a massive role in the taste

 

[Scouse]

Not particularly talking about coffee beans you buy and grind yourself- but if you go to any of the big providers in the high street, or most pubs/bars the coffee is cheap shit.

Specialist independent places trade on quality - and it can be great - but literally every cafe, restaurant and bar I've ever been to in France, Italy (and to a lesser extent Germany, Spain and Switzerland) has had coffee that's minimum standard is as high as the best British independents.

It's one of the things I most look forward to in European travel. I've drunk more coffee in the last three weeks than the rest of 2017.

Tea abroad, on the other hand: shite. (Unless Sri Lanka/India).

I said this @Raven, but nice backtracking.

And enjoying the continuation of the personal insults - must remember to bring this up next time you whine hypocritically about this very thing again.

 

[Raven]

Actually, you didn't. You said that later on, changing your mind and agreeing with me (But oddly, still ranting like a loon)

What you actually said was...

Yep.

Coffee on the continent is way better than British coffee but you're all wrong anyway because: Tea.

Drink of kings, gods and champions. Imbibed regularly it makes you a genius, grants peak physical performance and makes you a goddamn sexual tyrannosaur.

Just like me

And calling you a spaz is only an insult if it is untrue. But if you take being called dense, when you are being dense as an insult then, well, maybe you do have a problem? Special snowflake syndrome maybe?

 

[georgie]

I never said Europeans make better coffee. I have no grounds for doing so.

tee hee hee

 

[Scouse]

@Raven - it was my second post on the subject - to clarify. That's a normal part of discussion and I clearly DID say it.

Why are you being such a monumentally obstinate and obnoxious thundercunt?

 

[caLLous]

If you "agreed" with him (somehow, according to him), why did he then disagree with you in the very next post?

 

[Raven]

You mean, when you completely 180 degree about turned on your original comment? Then still managed to argue about it, despite in fact agreeing with my point, then really losing your shit in hilarious fashion, then pull out the hard done by card?

Its like saying beer is horrible, then claiming you like pale ale. then arguing that the other person is wrong when they say not all beer is horrible.

You're a buffoon.

 

[Raven]

If you "agreed" with him (somehow, according to him), why did he then disagree with you in the very next post?

You mean, that bit where he said tea on the continent was horrible and I said, again, no it isn't...that bit?

 

[DaGaffer]

That is an awfully long and dreary wall of text to say exactly what i said. Good, properly prepared coffee is good coffee, bad is bad, geographical location is irrelevant.

Now if the idiot had said, "I have visited better coffee shops on the continent than the UK" that would be fine, but he didn't, he explicitly said that all coffee was bad in the uk, which would also include the coffee you buy.

If you visit a wanky chain coffee place, any of them, its expensive bad coffee, here or the continent. Statistically people will visit indies in foreign countries to try something different, rather than exactly what they have at home. At home they will visit chains because they are idle.

That's some epic level pedantry going on there. You know exactly what he meant.

 

[Scouse]

Raven in starting unnecessary arguments shocker

 

[Raven]

Challenging your opinion then a page of you ranting like an only child in a supermarket that has just been told he can't have an icecream = me starting an argument?

Haha

 

[Raven]

Brilliant, my day is complete - facepalms, the epitome of your ability to communicate

I can just imagine the sound of you beating your keyboard, proper noisy typing.

lol

 

[Scouse]

1) Lighthearted (but essentially accurate) comment made.
2) Raven jumps on it.
3) Clarification.
4) Raven starts ranting
5) Multiple others agree with me
6) Point out Raven's sillyness (and abuse) after others agree
7) More ranting.

Coffee IS better in Europe. Tea IS better here. Like Gaff said, you know exactly what I meant.

Why are you insisting on turning this into a Toht-like argument?



Edit: I've admitted before and I'll admit again - I facepalm cause you hate it. Almost as much as everyone hates page after page of you and me arguing. It's toxic - and why I very rarely respond to you. But following the thread it's really easy for everyone to see what's going on here...

 

[Ormorof]

You are all wrong, Finland is greatest coffee country

 

[Raven]

1) Factually inacurate, typicaly anti UK for the sake of anti UK nonsense
2) Raven corrects the idiot.
3) Idiot agrees and changes his argument but introduces a second load on nonsense about something different.
4) Raven corrects that too
5) Multiple others missed the idiots second point
6) Ranting from the idiot, despite his adversary not even posting, which includes capital letters, and one would presume soiled pyjamas
7) Idiot gets laughed at
8) Idiot pulls out the big guns, the facepalms, just like a real boy.
9) Idiot gets laughed at again

Coffee IS better in Europe. Tea IS better here. Like Gaff said, you know exactly what I meant.

Why are you insisting on turning this into a Toht-like argument?

Fixed

And as for a Toht like argument, you mean you getting corrected, agreeing then ranting on page after page that the other person is still wrong? Yeah, just like that.

Edit, and Jesus, I don't give a shit about facepalms on an internet forum, I find it hilarious that it is your safeplace though, what a sado, grow a spine man.

 

[fettoken]

This is gold. *drinks some 'Swedish' coffee*

 

[Ormorof]

Ranting for pages about someone else ranting for pages

Ah the internet, we truly live in a golden age of humanity

 

[Scouse]

Factually inacurate, typicaly anti UK nonsense

Lol. Little Englanders

 

[Raven]

You want to carry on getting laughed at?

I am sure you can just go into a pub or something for that can't you?

Anyway. Random annoying things.

Plumbers that don't turn up to fix toilets.

 

[Ormorof]

They fix them better on the continent

 

[Raven]

Don't they still squat over a hole in the ground in France?

 

[Tom]

Plumbers that don't turn up to fix toilets.

The amount of shit you come out with, you need a new toilet. You can't repair a cracked bowl.

 

[Raven]

Lol. So witty. Lol

 

[old.user4556]

Don't they still squat over a hole in the ground in France?

In some French ski resorts, yes.

 

[old.user4556]

Also this thread's gone full retard. Let's stop being fegs.