SPAM random annoying things

[Hawkwind]

I have a ground coffee press machine but have to say I quite like the Nespresso, just for the simplicity and ease of making it. Sometimes I cannot be arsed to take 10 mins to make a cup of coffee, clean the press and machine. Agreed it does taste better but sometimes I just want a quick coffee and Nespresso is great for that.

 

[dysfunction]

Ive started making a large pot of espresso and put it in a jug the fridge.
Each morning I put a shot of coffee in a mug, fill it with boiling water and a bit of milk and have a great cup of coffee in minutes!

 

[Job]

Milk sugar, boiling water, Tesco freeze dried coffee.
I don't seem to have the taste buds to find the difference between that and any coffee in any trendy bar...lucky me.

 

[DaGaffer]

Milk sugar, boiling water, Tesco freeze dried coffee.
I don't seem to have the taste buds to find the difference between that and any coffee in any trendy bar...lucky me.

If you can't tell the difference between instant coffee and real stuff you don't have any taste buds at all.

 

[Scouse]

Yep.

Coffee on the continent is way better than British coffee but you're all wrong anyway because: Tea.

Drink of kings, gods and champions. Imbibed regularly it makes you a genius, grants peak physical performance and makes you a goddamn sexual tyrannosaur.

Just like me

 

[caLLous]

Tea is fucking horrible. There, I said it.

 

[fettoken]

Tea is the best. Had a tea made from mint leaves and licorice roots. Godly. Also another one that tasted bit like i'd imagine tar/wood/smoked tastes like. It's more thirst-quenching than just water also, and soothes a sore throat. The fucking best.

 

[Raven]

Yep.

Coffee on the continent is way better than British coffee

No it isn't. It is literally the exact same thing, grown in South America mostly, whether you drink it in France or England is not going to change its taste. There is no such thing as British coffee (Nor European for that matter) it doesn't grow here.

 

[Scouse]

Not particularly talking about coffee beans you buy and grind yourself- but if you go to any of the big providers in the high street, or most pubs/bars the coffee is cheap shit.

Specialist independent places trade on quality - and it can be great - but literally every cafe, restaurant and bar I've ever been to in France, Italy (and to a lesser extent Germany, Spain and Switzerland) has had coffee that's minimum standard is as high as the best British independents.

It's one of the things I most look forward to in European travel. I've drunk more coffee in the last three weeks than the rest of 2017.

Tea abroad, on the other hand: shite. (Unless Sri Lanka/India).

 

[Raven]

Again, no it isn't.

They source them from the same place and most do some dodgy deals in transfer pricing.

It is exactly the same thing.

It is just your unconscious bias rearing its ugly head again.

 

[Scouse]

It is exactly the same thing.

All beans are the same eh?

I don't see you protesting that tea is just as good over there...

 

[Raven]

You are as equally dense as @Job today, any particular reason for that?

Tea made properly, again, is just fine in Europe.

 

[Scouse]

Awww. Starting with the personal insults already @Raven? I thought you hated that sort of thing?

How about we just agree to disagree and resume avoiding interacting on FH. It makes for much less of a toxic atmos.

 

[Raven]

Agreed, you can go back to your delicate echo chamber.

 

[DaGaffer]

No it isn't. It is literally the exact same thing, grown in South America mostly, whether you drink it in France or England is not going to change its taste. There is no such thing as British coffee (Nor European for that matter) it doesn't grow here.

Just because its the same beans doesn't mean its the same taste. By that logic every coffee chain's coffee would taste the same when it clearly doesn't. The Italians make better coffee than everyone else, and always have.

You are as equally dense as @Job today, any particular reason for that?

Tea made properly, again, is just fine in Europe.

The key line there is "made properly", and in most of Europe it never is made properly, because they don't use boiling water and they don't steep the tea for long enough (God help us, most of the fuckers microwave the water). I'm not a big tea drinker, unlike my missus who takes the stuff intraveanously. One time we were staying in a posh hotel in Croatia and she couldn't get a decent cup of tea. In the end she went into the kitchen of this five-star hotel and taught them how to make it. No word of a lie she had other British guests coming up to her at breakfast to say thankyou and the staff in the hotel were bringing tea to her in shifts for no charge for the rest of the holiday.

 

[Scouse]

Look @DaGaffer - how dare you suggest anyone, anywhere, has or does something better than in the UK. Any suggestion that this could be the case makes you a brit-hating drooling moron.

 

[Raven]

Right. So your point here is method then? So all the EU people working over here as baristas suddenly forget how to do it? Do you take on a different gait on the continent and work the (made in China, same machines all over Europe) coffee machine differently? The machines are set up to make the coffee so the temperature is the same, nobody would hack a machine to make it produce boiling water instead of 98c (or whatever it is) water.

Or are you just talking absolute bollocks again.

hmm...

 

[old.user4556]

I think it's fair to say that the method plays a huuuuuuge part of the flavour.

Ales are water, yeast, barley, hops? Clearly differing methods have different tastes.

 

[Scouse]

Absolute bollocks @Big G.

 

[DaGaffer]

Right. So your point here is method then? So all the EU people working over here as baristas suddenly forget how to do it? Do you take on a different gait on the continent and work the (made in China, same machines all over Europe) coffee machine differently? The machines are set up to make the coffee so the temperature is the same, nobody would hack a machine to make it produce boiling water instead of 98c (or whatever it is) water.

Or are you just talking absolute bollocks again.

hmm...

Fuck sake. No, its not (just) method, its quality of beans, and yes, clearly the Italians buy better stuff than the chains and within the chains they buy better stuff than each other; Caffe Nero for instance simply tastes a lot better than Starbucks and Starbucks tastes better than Costa, which is fucking dishwater. Second, there is something in method, which may be like the Guinness pipes thing; maybe Europeans clean their machines better or warm them up properly, or use nicer milk, I don't fucking know, but the coffee tastes better. To be honest the coffee tastes better in Ireland than the stuff I get in London, even within the same chains, which may be down to softer water or something.

There can be dozens of small reasons why the coffee tastes better abroad (and tea tastes emphatically worse), but trying to claim its all the same when it simply isn't is just being contrary for the sake of it.

 

[old.user4556]

Hard English water for example, tastes like licking Anne Widdecombe's fat folds.

 

[Scouse]

trying to claim its all the same when it simply isn't is just being contrary for the sake of it.

I think it's more to do with the fact that I was the original poster. I could say that it's sunnier in the south of france and raven would find a reason to call me a brit hater and ask why I haven't fucking moved there yet if I love it so much

 

[Raven]

My patience with fuckwits is pretty small, due to the fact you spout an awful lot of rubbish, fantasy and narcissistic bullshit you just happen to get the brunt of it.

 

[CorNokZ]

Quality of beans, how they are roasted (VERY important key factor), how finely the beans are grinded depending on their oil levels which changes day by day, how firmly the coffee is packed, the water pressure when it travels through the coffee, the water temperature and so many other small factors.

A good barista starts the day by making a bunch of espressos at different settings in order to get the best out of the coffee. An 18y old coming in at 6am to do a shift at Starbucks turns on the machine and starts making coffee

 

[Scouse]

LOOK @CorNokZ - COFFEE IN BRITAIN IS JUST AS GOOD AS ANYWHERE ELSE

Anything else is narcissitic fantasy bullshit. K?

 

[Tom]

Raven talking right out of his arse, as usual. I have a burr grinder and an espresso machine, not the world's most expensive combo but easily £600 or so of half decent kit.

I buy my beans from Pollards in Sheffield, who roast consistently good beans that give my coffee a decent head of crema. That's the thick gassy head, like on a pint of bitter, that simply does not appear on your supermarket rubbish. No matter how much you spend on off-the-shelf beans, they taste rank and bitter compared to something that's been roasted the week before.

For the uneducated, coffee beans go off. And with even the best coffee beans, if you don't extract the flavour from them correctly, they'll still taste rank. Wrong temperature, low pressure, over-extraction - it all matters.

The uneducated will say I'm talking nonsense, like good coffee is some kind of Monster-branded platinum directional speaker cable, but I bet anyone with no education could tell the difference between supermarket beans and properly-roasted beans. The difference is huge.

Oh and freeze-dried coffee is absolutely not the same as fresh coffee. It's like comparing powdered milk with fresh milk.

 

[Scouse]

AARGH! Look @Tom! HOW CAN YOU NOT GET IT!!!?! No matter how many of you agree, Raven is right, you delusional brit-hating cunt

 

[Job]

If you can't tell the difference between instant coffee and real stuff you don't have any taste buds at all.

Real stuff lol, they are both processed to the hilt, they simply freeze dry the stuff in jars.

It's coffee snobbery, and you are simply regurgitating the marketing and advertising.

 

[Raven]

AARGH! Look @Tom! HOW CAN YOU NOT GET IT!!!?! No matter how many of you agree, Raven is right, you delusional brit-hating cunt

You are actually quite mentally unwell, aren't you?

Have another tablet dear boy.

The mock indignation was funnyish the first time but replying to everyone with the same line just makes you look like an obsessed weirdo with nothing better to do.

I mean, it's cute that you have got yourself so emotional because someone disagrees with you about coffee but seriously, lol.

 

[old.user4556]

Raven talking right out of his arse, as usual. I have a burr grinder and an espresso machine, not the world's most expensive combo but easily £600 or so of half decent kit.

I buy my beans from Pollards in Sheffield, who roast consistently good beans that give my coffee a decent head of crema. That's the thick gassy head, like on a pint of bitter, that simply does not appear on your supermarket rubbish. No matter how much you spend on off-the-shelf beans, they taste rank and bitter compared to something that's been roasted the week before.

For the uneducated, coffee beans go off. And with even the best coffee beans, if you don't extract the flavour from them correctly, they'll still taste rank. Wrong temperature, low pressure, over-extraction - it all matters.

The uneducated will say I'm talking nonsense, like good coffee is some kind of Monster-branded platinum directional speaker cable, but I bet anyone with no education could tell the difference between supermarket beans and properly-roasted beans. The difference is huge.

Oh and freeze-dried coffee is absolutely not the same as fresh coffee. It's like comparing powdered milk with fresh milk.

Agree, good coffee is fricking awesome, but I can't justify the outlay of the necessary kit.