PS3 has lost to Wii and Xbox360 (discuss)

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Here is the full article incase you couldn't view the link. Would be suprised if they are wrong but it happens I guess.

They did say early access to beta tests, but not demos. Though tbh, there were already exclusive demos in Qore (not many, maybe 2 so far?), maybe that's being included since Qore is part of the price now.

There's no way I'm going to subscribe to it, but at least Sony aren't really screwing over those who don't want to pay, and I'm sure they'll make some money off a few people who do think it's a good idea.
 

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I have replayed Cash Bandicoot and Syphon Filter as PS1 classics and paid £3.99 for each. So depending on the titles £30 (already been on hot uk deals) for access to all the classics for a year might be ok. Will hopefully get a list of the titles at some point.
 

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I'd love this on the 360 but it should be made imo so you can get achievements for playing these games. I know that would require a bit of work but it would certainly attract people.

Achievements are really addictive and encourage you to try things you normally wouldn't in a game.
 

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Why would anyone pay to play demos?

You don't demos are still free you just get them early with this (which is not right). You pay for other features like access to all the PS1 classic games. But the important thing is you do not need this at all.
 

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Ohh, that sounds pretty good actually. Would that include playing them on the PSP? If so, that alone would be worth a subscription. Not fussed about demos really, never bothered with them before.
 

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You pay for other features like access to all the PS1 classic games.
Which you might probably have if you had the promised and included in the original PS3's backwards compatibility that was removed for wait, what reason was that again?
 

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It was always coming though, Sony have been eyeing up MS's income stream from LIVE with jealousy for some time now. Was there any doubt that they were not going to try and get a slice of that action for themselves?
 

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Which you might probably have if you had the promised and included in the original PS3's backwards compatibility that was removed for wait, what reason was that again?

PS1 backward compatibility was never promised only PS2 from what i remember. And i had a ps3 with backward compatibility but seeing as i sell games when i finish them i never used it. So to be able to download play again then delete a old game is fine by me.

It mentions software emulation for ps1 games but i can't find that it was ever planned to be able to play the disks.
 

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Which you might probably have if you had the promised and included in the original PS3's backwards compatibility that was removed for wait, what reason was that again?

As I said last time, if you're going to troll, at least spend some time thinking up a good argument. Every PS3 can play PS1 discs.
 

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It was always coming though, Sony have been eyeing up MS's income stream from LIVE with jealousy for some time now. Was there any doubt that they were not going to try and get a slice of that action for themselves?
Absolutely not. I just don't see it as this innovative extra is all amigo.
 

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Well it's a subscription model for arcade games / old titles (although I'm still confused on this, is it access to all old game as some suggest, or selected titles?), so it offers more than MS do with Gold.
 

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Well it's a subscription model for arcade games / old titles (although I'm still confused on this, is it access to all old game as some suggest, or selected titles?), so it offers more than MS do with Gold.

If its the currently available games it is not all by a long distance.
 

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If its the currently available games it is not all by a long distance.

Think he is wondering if we get access to all PS1 games that are already on the store, or just a selection of the ones available to buy.
 

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Right, I can only find any mention to it being selected games that will be free. Which isn't surprising.
 

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As I said last time, if you're going to troll, at least spend some time thinking up a good argument. Every PS3 can play PS1 discs.

Waaa? Didn't know this either. Thought they removed both PS2 and PS1 compatibility.

<dusts off PS1 collection>
 

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I prefer playing PS1 games on my PSP anyway. They look fucking horrid on a HDTV :)
 

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As I said last time, if you're going to troll, at least spend some time thinking up a good argument. Every PS3 can play PS1 discs.
I'm not trolling ST^ so stop being so stupid. If I was wrong then I was wrong. Oh no, the world didn't end.
 

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I'm not trolling ST^ so stop being so stupid. If I was wrong then I was wrong. Oh no, the world didn't end.

How do you know it didn't? What if this is the afterlife and we're all trying to remember how much we loved eachother so we can spend eternity together?
 

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Because the cake is a lie.
 

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Uses HALF the power of the 2005 editon xbox 360, that is a fuckload less heat to get rid of. :D
 

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The sound difference is somewhat interesting. 5db reduction while idle and 3db while under load.
 

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The sound difference is somewhat interesting. 5db reduction while idle and 3db while under load.

Didn't really understand his description of the measuring enviroment. He measured it in an office which is a bit odd, you can't get true figures that way. X-bit labs or one of the other hardware sites should have some more accurate figures soon.
 

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the new hdd caddy is nifty wish to fuck ms would allow us to switch hdd like ps3.
 

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PS Blog says
"Exclusive offers on select demos, betas and early purchases" and
"Finally, wherever possible we’ll be making sure that members are included in selected demos and beta trials before they go live to everyone else, so you can be the one to tell all your friends about the next big game they ‘must’ get."

I did not read Demo's only available to PS Plus.
 

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Don't be so obtuse...

Panico points out that the current PlayStation Network will remain a free service. PlayStation Plus subscribers will get the existing PSN features plus PlayStation Plus features with exclusive games, store discounts, exclusive demo selections, betas, and early purchases. Buyers will also get full game trials and automatic downloads.

Exclusive demo selections is what it says on the tin. Early access demo's amount to the same thing. Plus members will get what XBL Gold members get, demo's before anyone else.
 

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