PS3 has lost to Wii and Xbox360 (discuss)

[old.user4556]

Yeah we both have a 40 GB

 

[Raven]

With the phones they tend to offer on those deals as well as the price and length of contract, the PS3 isn't quite 'free'

Yeah I know its not free, hence I put it in ""

The contract I am looking at is £25 a month with an average phone and a decent calls/texts package (tesco mobile). I hardly use my personal mobile (I have a work one) I have got fed up of paying extra for functions on a phone that I don't use (GPS, camera, MP3 player etc) so the deal suits me.

Back on topic:

Sony's problem is they spent far to much money in development and have very little to show for it, the console is nothing special when you sit it next to a 360 and it has far to few good exclusives to justify its price tag. They lost the casual gamer and family gamer to the Wii and got beaten savagely by their own stupid delayed launch schedule. When it did finally arrive in the UK they tried to sell it off the back of PS1/PS2 popularity. Its by no means a bad console, its just not £150 better than an XBOX. If they want to increase sales they need a dramatic drop in price.

 

[ST^]

Sony's problem is they spent far to much money in development and have very little to show for it, the console is nothing special when you sit it next to a 360 and it has far to few good exclusives to justify its price tag. They lost the casual gamer and family gamer to the Wii and got beaten savagely by their own stupid delayed launch schedule. When it did finally arrive in the UK they tried to sell it off the back of PS1/PS2 popularity. Its by no means a bad console, its just not £150 better than an XBOX. If they want to increase sales they need a dramatic drop in price.

Wut? Blu-ray drive, hard drive in every model, wifi in every model, up to 7.1 channel PCM, very good build quality (c'mon who's gonna argue the issue of reliability? )... whether or not you like the games, there's a huge gap between the hardware itself.

 

[Yaka]

mine started to sound louder than normal. i leave mine folding but it was loud not as loud as my 360. took it out side blasted out wot seems like a ton of dust thru the air vents with a can of compressed air. its silent now. did the same with my 360 but the noise is the same with that

any ways. seeing how a few of you guys have ps3s now join the FH folding@home team
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/news83/223344-freddys-folding-home-team.html help save the world or some shit

 

[gunner440]

I still don't get why I should fold. It seems stupid to me.

 

[Raven]

Wut? Blu-ray drive, hard drive in every model, wifi in every model, up to 7.1 channel PCM, very good build quality (c'mon who's gonna argue the issue of reliability? )... whether or not you like the games, there's a huge gap between the hardware itself.

That's great!... if you are selling a media centre. not going to sell many games though is it?
Who in their right mind would pay so much when they can get a console that does exactly the same but costs nearly half? Only the fanboys who would snuggle up with shit if it had a Sony badge on it. I am not a fan of the 360, it looks ugly, has poor reliability, the controllers are pathetic but its perfectly priced and knows what it is, its a console first, a media centre 2nd.
The PS3 is a solid piece of kit and makes a great media centre, its priced perfectly for a media centre, it looks like a good media centre. Its just not priced as a games console.

Isnt that the point of this thread? Which is the better games console not which is the better hardware?

 

[ST^]

Everything I mentioned is completely relevant for a games console, completely ignoring any media centre capabilities.

And don't pretend the hardware is the only difference, because the reason I bought a PS3 was in fact the exclusives such as GT5, MGS4 and God of War 3. I'm not the xbox 360 demographic. I don't play mostly shooters and I don't like my game hero to be pumped with enough steroids to kill an elephant. I'm not some american frat guy, I don't play games for mindless gore and violence. I have an awesome gaming PC so I don't need any of the "exclusives" that really aren't.

That is why in my "right mind", I bought a PS3. If Gran Turismo 5 was exclusive for 360, I'd buy one.

 

[Sparx]

i dont know a single person who has made the jump from DVD to Blu-ray, not one. I have a couple of HD DVDs but thats it, all the cool kids are preferring upscalers as they are cheaper. Yes i know PS3 upscales, but you can buy an upscaling DVD player for a fraction of the price

 

[Bodhi]

Hmmm. I've just read a feature on IGN comparing all three consoles on the standard of their exclusives, and how the game selection across all genres compared on them. It seemed to say that the PS3 had the best exclusives and the best selection of games, the Xbox only coming back with better downloadable content. So there's plenty of good games for the PS3 out there, and there are a potential 14 million people out there to play them with. So in what way is the PS3 a failure as a games console?

 

[Wij]

Hmmm. I've just read a feature on IGN comparing all three consoles on the standard of their exclusives, and how the game selection across all genres compared on them. It seemed to say that the PS3 had the best exclusives and the best selection of games, the Xbox only coming back with better downloadable content. So there's plenty of good games for the PS3 out there, and there are a potential 14 million people out there to play them with. So in what way is the PS3 a failure as a games console?

It's losing Sony money.

 

[Bodhi]

It's losing Sony money.

How is it though? Do you have numbers to back this up? And do you have the numbers for the amount the PS2 is still making Sony?

 

[Wij]

Nope. But it is. And PS2 is still making money.

 

[~Latency~]

That's great!... if you are selling a media centre. not going to sell many games though is it?
Who in their right mind would pay so much when they can get a console that does exactly the same but costs nearly half? Only the fanboys who would snuggle up with shit if it had a Sony badge on it. I am not a fan of the 360, it looks ugly, has poor reliability, the controllers are pathetic but its perfectly priced and knows what it is, its a console first, a media centre 2nd.
The PS3 is a solid piece of kit and makes a great media centre, its priced perfectly for a media centre, it looks like a good media centre. Its just not priced as a games console.

Isnt that the point of this thread? Which is the better games console not which is the better hardware?

raven sums up the point of the thread.

i agree ps3 is the undisputed all-round system, xbox360 just does gaming (online and off) so much better for half the price

 

[ST^]

Ok seriously how does the 360 do gaming "so much better" :/

 

[Wij]

Ok seriously how does the 360 do gaming "so much better" :/

Not better at all imo. But...

Cheaper.
As good gfx.
More titles.

Wii is another matter again...

 

[Sparx]

"potential" the most used word in PS3 fanbois dictionary

 

[soze]

i dont know a single person who has made the jump from DVD to Blu-ray, not one. I have a couple of HD DVDs but thats it, all the cool kids are preferring upscalers as they are cheaper. Yes i know PS3 upscales, but you can buy an upscaling DVD player for a fraction of the price

I buy all my new films in blu ray with 3 for 2 deals you pay around £10 a film and the difference in quality vs and upscaled dvd is worth it. I have purchased a few old films again on blu ray too but by no means will i replace every dvd i own.

I still think some of the PS3 hatred comes from the fact Sony are the big boys and no one likes the big boy like apple vs Windows. Do xbox owners really want to see Sony fold the playstation division do you really think if Xbox has no competition they will release the next consol so cheap?

 

[Sparx]

I dont want PS3 to fail at all. Without competition from wii and PS3 the NXE wouldnt have happened for example. Competition is needed for them to keep making great things happen for us 360 users

 

[Raven]

Ok seriously how does the 360 do gaming "so much better" :/

It doesn't do it better, it does it exactly the same, it is just you have to pay around £100-£150 more to play the exact same games with the exact same graphics on a machine with a Sony badge on it. If all you want your machine for is to play games then a 360 is the obvious choice.

 

[old.user4556]

all the cool kids are preferring upscalers as they are cheaper

No disrespect Sparx, but that's a pile of merde .

 

[old.user4556]

If all you want your machine for is to play games then a 360 is the obvious choice.

Agreed, I nearly bought a 360 Elite when they were first about, but then I decided I was going to get a games console and a blu-ray player - why buy seperate when I could have both in one for less cash, so I knocked the 360 on the head and got the PS3.

Can I just add to this mix that if the PS3 hadn't played BDs, I wouldn't have touched it with a barge pole. For me, the blu-ray and media centre functions are a definite make in terms of 'make or break'. Without it, it would have (to echo what's been said) a very expensive console.

However, that external PSU is very Amiga 500, noone wants that in their batcherlor pad.

 

[Sparx]

No disrespect Sparx, but that's a pile of merde .

Your probably right


Oh oh wait your not

http://www.1920x1080p.co.uk/Sony-DVP-NS78HS-Upscaling-DVD-Player-with-HDMI.html

Sony DVP-NS 76 H - Review - great sub £200 upscaler DVD

Play.com (UK) : Toshiba SD-580 HD Up-Scaling DVD Player : Electronics - Free Delivery

 

[nath]

Clearly upscaling players are cheaper, I very much doubt G was disputing that. The point is the difference in quality is astonishing. Granted, I watch HD stuff on a 106" projection screen, but given that I can see the difference in spades on my 19" LCD monitor I think it's safe to say there's a fairly significant difference.

 

[Sparx]

Clearly upscaling players are cheaper, I very much doubt G was disputing that. The point is the difference in quality is astonishing. Granted, I watch HD stuff on a 106" projection screen, but given that I can see the difference in spades on my 19" LCD monitor I think it's safe to say there's a fairly significant difference.

On a 19" you will barely notice any difference. I dont know anyone who has a TV larger that 36". And testing using my upscaler and HD DVD (used Firefly i have it in HD DVD and reg DVD) and no-one could tell any difference at all

 

[nath]

I just told you, I've watched DVD's vs HD content on my 19" and I notice a HUGE difference...

 

[Bodhi]

On a 19" you will barely notice any difference. I dont know anyone who has a TV larger that 36". And testing using my upscaler and HD DVD (used Firefly i have it in HD DVD and reg DVD) and no-one could tell any difference at all

Your friends are all peasants then. I don't know anyone with a TV smaller than 36".


(Except me I have a CRT. It 0wns j00)

 

[Sparx]

Most regular people never see a difference, its not a passing comment its a fact. Thats why blu-ray hasnt taken off at all, not like the great VHS to DVD change over

 

[Sparx]

Your friends are all peasants then. I don't know anyone with a TV smaller than 36".


(Except me I have a CRT. It 0wns j00)

Only knowing 3 people doesnt count as a 100% rate

 

[old.user4556]

Your probably right


Oh oh wait your not

No. I'm saying regarding people are preferring upscalers which is ... bollocks sorry . Everyone knows you can't polish a turd, as good as upscalers are.

 

[nath]

Most regular people never see a difference, its not a passing comment its a fact.

This comment is so stupid I think you've just given me an aneurysm.