Prydwen RvR

[hangianix]

Originally posted by old.Emma
This isnt a whine but i honestly have seen a rapid increase in the population of stealthers from albion, and im sure the same is true for hibernia regarding rangers and nightshades.

If I have 1 hr only, then no way in hell that I can get a grp with cleric. Or if I can they will disband after the 1st death on mid gank grp. With a stealther you can find some fun even in 1 hr.

Well, it seems the future mid fotm grp will be (due to the stealther zerg from other realms): 5 hunter with ts, skald, healer, shammy.

 

[constanze]

Originally posted by old.Emma
The way i see it is. Mid are killing emain off themselfs.

The guild groups that run with multiple savages are just too hard to beat as your everyday random/guild group from other realms. Because of this more and more people are shelving there char and rolling stealthers. Primarily because stealthers are great at soloing and there are always other stealthers out and about doing there thing.

This isnt a whine but i honestly have seen a rapid increase in the population of stealthers from albion, and im sure the same is true for hibernia regarding rangers and nightshades.

i agree with emma

before 18:00 emain is kinda useless for albs we got 3-5 active sorcs in our realm (and in the future there will be none) so rvr before 18:00 is a joke becouse no group got a sorc -> insta win for mids
after 18:00 you got a small chance to leech from PE or FL

the problem is our cc char is dead in every fight, so its no fun for sorcs to play rvr -> there will be no sorcs soon

mid healers pop like flowers and survirve very long in fights
so the mid group rezz the healers all the time and the 3 savages do the same damage as the alb assist train with 3 mercs 1 pala 1 minstrel

this means while you kill the healer for the 3 time the mid group ganked all support chars and the fight is over

 

[Maleg_Grumpton]

Originally posted by leviathane
fuck it tbh, if your gonna whine all fucking day then quit the game.. ill admit mid fotm groups are hard to kill but not impossible just get higher rr tbh.

Correct, I know the Hib groups I run in have some chance of taking down a Mid group...... but guess what, we're never fighting just 1 Mid group cause "chums" always add in before the fight is over.

Mid has pretty much the most powerful 1FG setup at the moment (exception being high RR / high skill Alb group maybe). We'd take our chances if we though we had a far chance, but we're not only out gunned, you out number us as well.

What to you expect people to do, keep running into Emain where they know for certain they've probably only got a 30% chance of winning a 1FG vs 1FG encounter (which we'd be prepared to do) and 0% of suviving when another Mid group adds (which is 90% of the time). Boring and frustrating, still hope it's just as boring and frustrating for you to find no enemys about. Rot in Emain for all I care.

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

Dont like RvR? Dont go.
Like RvR, but not getting owned? Change realm.
Dont have a clue what you're talking about? Register on BW.

 

[Zarmin]

mmmm

Originally posted by grizlasthehero
maybe the mid players are getting better 2? maybe its not just down to asd spam, savages but ill shut up now, even when savages get nerfed. and asd is nerfed we will soon find out.. and im lookin forward to it.

U aren't the only one ...

 

[Zarmin]

bah

Originally posted by old.Hardbein
^^thats the spirit

FYI:

Everlast only have 1 (one) savage in grp, not 3 like other savage grps does.

Skald (gimp Taxi - getting love tho)
Healer Pac/Mend (the good old healer)
Healer Aug/Mend -"-
Healer Mend/Pac -"-
Shaman (needs love - survivability)
Warrior (to be mids next fotm)
Bonedancer (uber 1vs.1, not that powerfull in a grp except for its insta nukes...and oop after 5 secs)
Savage (fotm...sure, getting its nerf soon)

edit: lol...forgot the skald

U guys don't wanna understand it eh? it's the COMBO tons of Healers Savages the disrupt the balance, tbh 1 vs 1 Savages are dealable

 

[Zarmin]

And again

Originally posted by painman
ehhh thats some good advice there? that will surely make it easy for albs and hibs!

valhallas

There's no such blind as the one who don't wanna see ...

 

[Ziva]

Imo u can't blame any realm for setting up the best possible RvR group available. Sure RvR guilds will most likely try to make the perfect group but they usually recruit their members accordingly unlike mixed guilds. Personally i would love to see some different group setups in all realms but it's not likely going to happen.

I blame Mythic\GOA for this since they don't do anything to encourage different group setups. If having a group with two times the same classes is just as rewarding (usually even much more) as having a group with 8 totally different ones why should people bother if all that they will get is beeing slaughtered by the others because they try to be different.

The only "solution" i can think of is rewarding different group setups more then the fotm ones. This may sound silly but if people get more rewards (e.g. more points, money whatever) for trying different setups (for example: a fg of 8 different classes get twice as many points as a group with doubles classes) i think this will encourage them more to try it.

The only big problem with this is the fact not all realms share the same amount of core classes. Like Alb has only two healerclasses while Hib has three and so on.

 

[old.windforce]

<in stealth till 1.65>

along with 3000 other infils / scouts / mincers

i loved my cleric and i played him till RR5L5 but it is sheer imposible atm to get a decent rvr group becasue there are none

PE and FL barely run emain these days

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by -redb-

Whine about the 4fg of high rr mids

we talking about prydwen right?

 

[Maleg_Grumpton]

Originally posted by Ardrias_Mid
Dont like RvR? Dont go.
Like RvR, but not getting owned? Change realm.
Dont have a clue what you're talking about? Register on BW.

Stl0ng RvR with everybody in the same realm

Personally ASD is a real pain, mixture of ASD fix and Savage fix will make Mid groups easier to fight but I'll doubt it will change attitudes in Hib and Alb if 3 FG's continue to desend on a single FG as soon as it appears in a frontier.

Yep I know it's RvR (not FG vs FG) but how many Mid FG's would continue to go to emain if 3FG's of PE / FL / Eclipse / NP attacked them every time they got to MMG.

Strongest whine here is from Mids as they don't have anybody to farm - seems Hibs and Albs have just accepted it for the crap it is and moved on.

 

[Zarmin]

Side note

Due to the fact actually savages has a spell line shouldn't they be treated as Hybrids? So shouldn't they be forbidden to achieve Determination for instance? and be in same dmg table of Hybrids?
oh but wait wait, Mythic CEO has only Mids accounts sorry

 

[)nick(]

ASD will be fixed, so will savages. After that the slapping of mids who abused all the bugs till RR10 can commence.

 

[Zarmin]

eheh

Originally posted by -nicolas-
ASD will be fixed, so will savages. After that the slapping of mids who abused all the bugs till RR10 can commence.

I think they'll roll another class tbh doh!

 

[)nick(]

Re: eheh

Originally posted by Zarmin
I think they'll roll another class tbh doh!

I was kind of hoping they would come back to hib! Come back m8s

 

[zapzap]

Dont think it matters if the RvR guilds run out with 0 savage and use thane or berserker or BD or even SB, FG V FG the RvR guild will win easy against a random group allways.
Time spend and some kind of plan and playing with same people means more then the just having right damage dealers.

I personal play games to have fun but wining is allways more fun ofc I can loose and say wow nice fight, but I sure try to make sure next time the reason we lost dont happend again.

Atm mids that are active are just higher RR and played longer as teams, Iam sure if NP Eclipse Sotl PE and 1 more for each realm ran same Zone same time things looked different.


Zapsi

 

[faderullan]

But as that dont happend anymore its kinda boring to play against the add odds.

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by zapzap
Atm mids that are active are just higher RR and played longer as teams, Iam sure if NP Eclipse Sotl PE and 1 more for each realm ran same Zone same time things looked different.

But they dont, and thats the problem, see? Afaik Eclipse / NP stoppled playing because of Savage groups. Sotl moved mid/exc Forgotten Legends moved hib/exc.

 

[zapzap]

But they did and mids didnt stop coming out did they ?

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by zapzap
But they did and mids didnt stop coming out did they ?

Why would you stop coming out? You're the biggest realm, easy mode etc.

 

[old.Emma]

Originally posted by ilum
Why would you stop coming out? You're the biggest realm, easy mode etc.

Alb is the biggest for population now ;p just mid has more rvr active players it seems.

 

[zapzap]

ALBION
RealmRP: 791.919.482 (36.20%)
Guilds: 194 (32.61%)
Player: 4.215 (36.74%)
Chars: 21.677 (33.87%)
Active: 8.642 (38.03%)
Melee: 10% bonus
Magic: 0% bonus

HIBERNIA
RealmRP: 519.626.376 (23.75%)
Guilds: 203 (34.12%)
Player: 3.779 (32.94%)
Chars: 22.029 (34.42%)
Active: 6.669 (29.35%)
Melee: 0% bonus
Magic: 0% bonus

MIDGARD
RealmRP: 876.368.418 (40.05%)
Guilds: 198 (33.28%)
Player: 3.479 (30.32%)
Chars: 20.299 (31.71%)
Active: 7.411 (32.62%)
Melee: 0% bonus
Magic: 20% bonus

K

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by zapzap
ALBION
RealmRP: 791.919.482 (36.20%)
Guilds: 194 (32.61%)
Player: 4.215 (36.74%)
Chars: 21.677 (33.87%)
Active: 8.642 (38.03%)
Melee: 10% bonus
Magic: 0% bonus

HIBERNIA
RealmRP: 519.626.376 (23.75%)
Guilds: 203 (34.12%)
Player: 3.779 (32.94%)
Chars: 22.029 (34.42%)
Active: 6.669 (29.35%)
Melee: 0% bonus
Magic: 0% bonus

MIDGARD
RealmRP: 876.368.418 (40.05%)
Guilds: 198 (33.28%)
Player: 3.479 (30.32%)
Chars: 20.299 (31.71%)
Active: 7.411 (32.62%)
Melee: 0% bonus
Magic: 20% bonus

K

Cant you see how flawed those numbers are when Hibs are #1?

 

[zapzap]

Originally posted by ilum
Cant you see how flawed those numbers are when Hibs are #1?

Active: 8.642 (38.03%) Albs
Active: 7.411 (32.62%) Mids
Active: 6.669 (29.35%) Hibs

 

[Dorin]

d00d you play fotmgard, be happy that you find any grp you can wtfpwn, but dont whine for more plz. ty

I tend to not agree with Constanze, but he is damn right about sorcerors, if fotms not stoping this shit (1 fotm did 80% dmg to my sorc against caped resists... and that wasnt MA train that was only 1 lonely fomt) there will be very few active sorcerors/casters in albion/hibernia, couse its not fun to be asd/tauntshout interrupted and rapped into pieces in less then 3seconds after the start of the fight

 

[kalgarn]

Originally posted by Zarmin
U guys don't wanna understand it eh? it's the COMBO tons of Healers Savages the disrupt the balance, tbh 1 vs 1 Savages are dealable

and he says that they only have 1 savage.or are you saying that savage kills your whole group solo?

Originally posted by ilum
Afaik Eclipse / NP stoppled playing because of Savage groups.

don't know about eclipse but NP just moved exc because they had a bigger chance to be uber in mid/exc then on hib/pryd imo.
would be bad for the reputation of the self declared "best guild of the english servers" if they got beaten every fight don't you think?

 

[faderullan]

Originally posted by kalgarn
would be bad for the reputation of the self declared "best guild of the english servers" if they got beaten every fight don't you think?

According to their webpage they are the "The number 1 guild on the European servers"

Pfft, like they would only consider themselves best on english servers.

 

[faderullan]

Originally posted by kalgarn
and he says that they only have 1 savage.or are you saying that savage kills your whole group solo?

That has happend fyi. We ran around killing like 10 healers. (They ressed) In the meantime Aldrick killed our whole support.

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by kalgarn
and he says that they only have 1 savage.or are you saying that savage kills your whole group solo?

don't know about eclipse but NP just moved exc because they had a bigger chance to be uber in mid/exc then on hib/pryd imo.
would be bad for the reputation of the self declared "best guild of the english servers" if they got beaten every fight don't you think?

Exactly! Midgard, the best realm, in the hands of the best guild in europe basically gets you the best results in europe! Hib classes on prydwen are a complete joke when up against a) 3/4 groups of adds b) savages who kill you in anything from 2-4 swings c) ASD spamming d) stupid amounts of CC e) sos d) bof.

 

[kalgarn]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
Exactly! Because midgard, the best realm, in the hands of the best guild in europe basically gets you the best results in europe! Hib classes on prydwen are a complete joke when up against a) 3/4 groups of adds b) savages who kill you in anything from 2-4 swings c) ASD spamming d) stupid amounts of CC e) sos d) bof.

changing to the best realm to get most rp's = skillz
*gives teh gabber a coockie*