Prydwen RvR

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by kalgarn
well used to be the same when mids got owned by pbaoe groups and alb caster groups.only a few groups could compete and then only when the other groups had their ra's down.
don't forget mid/prydwen was the last realm to run high rr gankgroups on regular base we just ended up doing it because it was the only solution.and now atm mid has the upperhand.big deal,if you can't take them with 1 fg zerg them then.instead of rolling assasin alts or moving to another realm.
and yes savages are overpowered and yes zerks are on par with mercs but how will an assisting mid zerk group compete against an alb group whit bof and sos?
the thruth is although mythic tries to balance the game they don't allways know how a certain change to a class will influence the whole realm balance and they keep messing up sadlly.
and people will allways make try to make the best possible setup for a group.and the realm who has the best setup will own the other realms.
p.s.:this wasen't adressed to you mats,just a general thought

I know what you are saying, but having to rely on ra's too much in this game really does ruin it.Thing is kalgarn, when a melee class has killed me quicker than a group of pbaoers it's saying something...

But a lot has changed since retail too, there's far too much perfect groups in mid lately(more rvr guilds i guess), it's not a case of trying another realm because 90% of mids run savages lately(well that's a small reason), the main reason is why log on at all on pryd if i just talk to people now?it's boring doing nothing.

The game is more perfect now(player wise), people play more to win than for fun, that's why i been playing my ice wiz lately, god casters are hard and they are fun xD

 

[kalgarn]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
the main reason is why log on at all on pryd if i just talk to people now?it's boring doing nothing.

that's one of the reasons i retired
and yes the fact that mid has more uber groups running atm then the other realms together ruins alot.will even ruin it for mids eventually.but tbh this is how the game has develloped.when alb or hib gets the upperhand i can see the same happening sadlly.
the realm with the best setups will have the most uber groups out and the other realms will lose their hardcore rvr ppl because they are tired of getting owned.
<shrug> nothing really you can do about it,this is how it is now and i doubt it will change.
once someone gets a group setup that will do good others will copy it because they see it gives good rp's and more and more high rr groups get born.and then why would they change if they see it works?
the fact is when you're used to running in optimized groups and win alot it's hard to start running pick up groups and getting defeated most of the time so people stay with the best setup.
so will it change?no,the only thing that will change is the realm that will have the best setups.and the realms that are whining about it.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Kalgarn play with me in operation flashpoint xD it takes a lot more skill than daoc xDDD

 

[kalgarn]

lol,i suck at fps.i rock at tetris though

 

[cHodAX]

Originally posted by kalgarn
lol,i suck at fps.i rock at tetris though

bleh, play a man's game. solitare wtf pwns

 

[Jace]

Funny thread, admitting that there’s 4-5 guild groups of Mids running in emain and wondering why the 2fg at APK won’t venture out. Still a mystery to me that’s for sure

RvR on this server is ridiculous atm with Albs moving between RvR zones just to avoid the Mid fotm groups. As players I suppose we can’t help what Mythic has done to the game and there will always be people who want to be uber, hence the Zerker fotm players jumping ship to Savages when their characters were actually brought in line.

No real solution to this, praying the income incoming nerfs will sort it out just in time for the master levels to completely screw it all up again.

 

[greatred]

Doesn't help that savages with Det RA and resists are damn near unmezzable. And alb doesn't have many people with AOE root. Usually those people who do have AOE root are mezzed by the pac healer that is inevitably in a savage assist grp, and last under a second versus savage assist. Pac healer getting the jump with insta CC is everything.

Only defence against savage/healer assist groups is a zerg that understands to take out their support first. Even so that zerg will lose several people in the process.

 

[klavrynd]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Kalgarn play with me in operation flashpoint xD it takes a lot more skill than daoc xDDD

i play et

its free, i get to give people crap, i can switch servers if they're filled with tossers, and i can get my daily dose of frustration to keep me going

:great:

 

[old.Sko]

master levels are same for all realms though.

 

[sweeft]

The truth is that you guys are boring...
It was fun at first, fighting FOTM groups everyone knew were overpowered just because of the group setup & class. It was challenging, especially for the ones of us usually judged decent in RvR but still casual players...
...Then it became frustrating...
...and now it's boring...

It's pretty simple, now, if you guys are around or reported to be moving to a place, groups just suicide and go somewhere else. Nobody even wants to fight you because with your "gimps", your "roxors", your "uber groups" and everything related, you are not fun fighting, plain and simple.
More than that, you killed entire classes like every single casters. Where are the wizards? the cabalists? the runematers? Mythic didn't kill them, you did, you and your opted ideas. It's not because you can do something that you have to do it...

Another thing that really annoys me is that you are killing the RvR casual playing of this game and don't tell me it's Mythic fault again, assume the burden, nobody's forcing you to play like that. I think casual players don't even hate you, or despise you, they just look at you and your fotm groups, always the same, like bots in some FPS game and think: "these guys not playing the game I am playing" then they reroll more characters, have fun with friends and find other enjoyments in DAoC than RvR because they know that your only goal is to ruin it for them.

My only hope now is that you guys will just get bored to death and either leave or change the way you play. Give the game back to players please, not to some professional players caring more about winning and destroying other players the fastest possible than having a good fight. While I understand that your fun is just to do that, your fun is ruining everyone else's fun and that's why you guys are wrong here.

My advise to all players bored with fotm groups and "supa gankas", next time you RvR with your balanced but normal group and you meet them, sit down, let yourself killed and /release. Don't even fight, don't emote, don't run...just let them get their rps but give them no fun at all...none...they don't exist and they don't even matter, they are not even playing the game you play...
...once done, just move to another frontier, and I'm sure you will find random groups, just like you, here for the fun, for a fight you may win or you may lose, but from which you will take something that you thought lost because of these fotm groups: fun in RvR.

Give this game back to casual players, there are hundreds out there on Prydwen just not coming out anymore because of just a small amount of players, their way to play and there will to "pwn"...

 

[kalgarn]

Originally posted by sweeft
next time you RvR with your balanced but normal group

so mid balanced group= FOTM group,other realm balanced group=normal group?
:sleeping:

 

[Myddrin]

Apk in Emain atm reminds me of the good ole days when Trolls camped it 24/7 and were purple con and ALb only had a few level 50's and everyone was shit scared to venture out

Bring back Blood and Thing tbh to complete the nostalgia

 

[leviathane]

fuck it tbh, if your gonna whine all fucking day then quit the game.. ill admit mid fotm groups are hard to kill but not impossible just get higher rr tbh.

 

[grizlasthehero]

maybe the mid players are getting better 2? maybe its not just down to asd spam, savages but ill shut up now, even when savages get nerfed. and asd is nerfed we will soon find out.. and im lookin forward to it.

 

[old.Hardbein]

Originally posted by leviathane
fuck it tbh, if your gonna whine all fucking day then quit the game.. ill admit mid fotm groups are hard to kill but not impossible just get higher rr tbh.

^^thats the spirit

FYI:

Everlast only have 1 (one) savage in grp, not 3 like other savage grps does.

Skald (gimp Taxi - getting love tho)
Healer Pac/Mend (the good old healer)
Healer Aug/Mend -"-
Healer Mend/Pac -"-
Shaman (needs love - survivability)
Warrior (to be mids next fotm)
Bonedancer (uber 1vs.1, not that powerfull in a grp except for its insta nukes...and oop after 5 secs)
Savage (fotm...sure, getting its nerf soon)

edit: lol...forgot the skald

 

[Keif.THATfriar]

My Day On prydwen as a Solo Friar..

Log On , Where Do i Wanna Go .. I Know lets trot off to hadrians wall... opon arrival i have a good look round examine the mmg and move to the hmg.. ok not much around one last check the mmg ... out strolls a fg savage grp ...ok "not that bad, just bad luck"

Next On the agenda , ok that didnt work so well i know what ill do , ill go into Odins Gate for a walk around.. Buff Up Run out of the pk get the to amg killed by a full savage fotm grp , and to add insult to injury its the same group :|

ok fine if they wanna be there, ill go emain .. get to emain buff up etc , wander down from the apk.. "this isnt so bad" i think ... o wait here comes , yup you've guessed it ... the same savage fotm grp,

and basically rinse and repeat adding differant guilds players etc , and you have how my rvr day has become , last sunday i was logged on for about 12+ hours and make 3k (the last 3 k i had needed all day to get rr5 was made at exactly 5am the morning after)

and i really do thank koxine the hunter for being my ONLY solo kill that day was nice to be jumped by something that wasnt a savage gank group

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by leviathane
fuck it tbh, if your gonna whine all fucking day then quit the game.. ill admit mid fotm groups are hard to kill but not impossible just get higher rr tbh.

That's the key point "high rr"

You go emain as a low rr group today in any realm you're most likely toast.

Savages group never are impossible and never will be, it's finding the right people to kill the group that can be impossible.It can sometimes take up to 1 hour or so to make a group for emain just for that.(for reasons like kalgarn said above)

I am sure mids and hibs have the same problems i am just saying it from my perspective, hibs must have a real challenge due to population but lately they are coming out more and fair play to them.

 

[old.Emma]

The way i see it is. Mid are killing emain off themselfs.

The guild groups that run with multiple savages are just too hard to beat as your everyday random/guild group from other realms. Because of this more and more people are shelving there char and rolling stealthers. Primarily because stealthers are great at soloing and there are always other stealthers out and about doing there thing.

This isnt a whine but i honestly have seen a rapid increase in the population of stealthers from albion, and im sure the same is true for hibernia regarding rangers and nightshades.

 

[gwal]

mid and alb share one thing, they both underestimate their classes on rvr a whooole lot.

its taken one or two days for most mids who are trying out hib/prýdwen rvr to realise how insane savages are.

most albs have yet to realise that albion is actually quite competetive on rvr, admitted it does require RA´s, but it also requires them to stop using shitty grp setups, and actually requires an amount of skill too. something most seem to disregard, and opt for zerging or loosing as they cba to re-roll their uber cabalist or whatever, and cba to play at least half decently.

 

[old.logun]

well my usual day when i go to rvr i port to emain and sit out front of pk looking for a group with my friar after a few ports more and more poeple begin to port through most of em in guilds and making guild groups which ifs fair enough, but for the poeple that aren't in guild groups sit around the pk also waiting for the right classes to port through, small groups begin to form up but missing vitle classes i.e rejuc cleric , sorc , minstrel , and sometimes a paladin.

so reason albs are at apk with 2fg standing doing is they don't have the right classes to even stand a slight chance of a decent fight.

in was in a group waiting the other week there waiting for a sorcerer , the only class we needed and we would have been rdy to move out, think we waited for 45mins/hour thinking a sorcerer might port through , non did , so i decided to do a /who 50 sorcerer , want to know how many was on ? a whoping 3 and non were close to for.sauvage 1 was in avalon city another in barrows and the other in darkness falls so the group disbanded and everyone logged.

my friar is only rr3l3 and i've already given up in trying to rvr there just isn't enough classes around to make a decent rvr group from random poeple who want to have have playing.

and if you look at my sig i've already started rolling an infil because i would rather avoid fotm savage groups than failing miserably with my friar in a group.

 

[gwal]

Originally posted by old.Emma
The way i see it is. Mid are killing emain off themselfs.

The guild groups that run with multiple savages are just too hard to beat as your everyday random/guild group from other realms. Because of this more and more people are shelving there char and rolling stealthers. Primarily because stealthers are great at soloing and there are always other stealthers out and about doing there thing.

This isnt a whine but i honestly have seen a rapid increase in the population of stealthers from albion, and im sure the same is true for hibernia regarding rangers and nightshades.

so ur saying they dont want fights in which the enemy has an advantage (savages), but they do indeed want it for themselves (infil)

such a nice attitude, nerf the others, gif all to us.....

 

[farathorn_nexus]

First of all I totally agree with Klavrynd and Matt...

As I see it it´s mainly not about classes or RA:s...it´s more about rr and perfect groups with devoted players. Right now Mid seems to have the highest numbers of rvr-groups around making it tough for the casual players. As I´m a causal player myself and not used to run with Savages and stuff I can also point out that it was a pain for me and others like me, when PE was out in Emain all the time and killed us on sight over and over...and alittle further back it was the same thing when Eclipse and NP owned Emain before Alb/Mid had got their gank squads up and running. For me as a casual player it just ment that it was no use at all running in Emain to get wiped by Eclipse/NP, then PE. Now I totally understand how the Albs/Hibs feel like that have to face Bo or Everlast but as mentioned before on some other posts this will likely continue as devoted players with alot of time to spend on the game will always find new ways for the "perfect" setup that makes the casual players suffer. I don´t at all blame guys like Eclipse, NP, PE, BO or Everlast for putting up these squads and wanting to do the best they can within the limits of the game, but I also totally understand all the casual players frustration about being rolled over again and again by the well composed and high realmranked groups since that usually happens to me aswell.

 

[ilum]

oops soz

 

[ilum]

oops soz again laggy comp

 

[ilum]

delete my dbl posts pls

 

[ilum]

Originally posted by caldor78
What the hell is up with this server?

The quality of the RvR of late is just so pathetic you want to cry.

Of course the RvR on the server is shitty when Midgard has far too many FOTM-groups. Why are you asking silly questions?

Originally posted by caldor78


Let me describe a regular day for you that don't understand what I'm talking about.

Better to see 2FG at PK rather than see 2FG adding while you are fighting 1FG already tbh.

 

[lator]

Originally posted by old.Hardbein
^^thats the spirit

FYI:

Everlast only have 1 (one) savage in grp, not 3 like other savage grps does.

Skald (gimp Taxi - getting love tho)
Healer Pac/Mend (the good old healer)
Healer Aug/Mend -"-
Healer Mend/Pac -"-
Shaman (needs love - survivability)
Warrior (to be mids next fotm)
Bonedancer (uber 1vs.1, not that powerfull in a grp except for its insta nukes...and oop after 5 secs)
Savage (fotm...sure, getting its nerf soon)

edit: lol...forgot the skald

Correction, Maelstrom GG has 2 savages not 3 uke:

 

[painman]

Originally posted by sweeft
The truth is that you guys are boring...
It was fun at first, fighting FOTM groups everyone knew were overpowered just because of the group setup & class. It was challenging, especially for the ones of us usually judged decent in RvR but still casual players...
...Then it became frustrating...
...and now it's boring...

It's pretty simple, now, if you guys are around or reported to be moving to a place, groups just suicide and go somewhere else. Nobody even wants to fight you because with your "gimps", your "roxors", your "uber groups" and everything related, you are not fun fighting, plain and simple.
More than that, you killed entire classes like every single casters. Where are the wizards? the cabalists? the runematers? Mythic didn't kill them, you did, you and your opted ideas. It's not because you can do something that you have to do it...

Another thing that really annoys me is that you are killing the RvR casual playing of this game and don't tell me it's Mythic fault again, assume the burden, nobody's forcing you to play like that. I think casual players don't even hate you, or despise you, they just look at you and your fotm groups, always the same, like bots in some FPS game and think: "these guys not playing the game I am playing" then they reroll more characters, have fun with friends and find other enjoyments in DAoC than RvR because they know that your only goal is to ruin it for them.

My only hope now is that you guys will just get bored to death and either leave or change the way you play. Give the game back to players please, not to some professional players caring more about winning and destroying other players the fastest possible than having a good fight. While I understand that your fun is just to do that, your fun is ruining everyone else's fun and that's why you guys are wrong here.

My advise to all players bored with fotm groups and "supa gankas", next time you RvR with your balanced but normal group and you meet them, sit down, let yourself killed and /release. Don't even fight, don't emote, don't run...just let them get their rps but give them no fun at all...none...they don't exist and they don't even matter, they are not even playing the game you play...
...once done, just move to another frontier, and I'm sure you will find random groups, just like you, here for the fun, for a fight you may win or you may lose, but from which you will take something that you thought lost because of these fotm groups: fun in RvR.

Give this game back to casual players, there are hundreds out there on Prydwen just not coming out anymore because of just a small amount of players, their way to play and there will to "pwn"...

ehhh thats some good advice there? that will surely make it easy for albs and hibs!

valhallas

 

[hangianix]

Originally posted by grizlasthehero
maybe its not just down to asd spam

Its just.

 

[ilum]

Re: Re: Prydwen RvR

lol i screwd up a bit pls detele my dbl posts