Private Galla raids cant Claim Galla

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eneq

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
There has not been that many private raids into galla.

There's been more focus pulls in galla than private raids, more focus pulls over the weekend typically than there has been private raids.


Anything else troll ?

Or you gonna pull more facts out your ass?
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You still dont get it :p

p.s
this was the 5 week weekends been claimed in Galla.
And next weekend is also booked......
 
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Maq-attack

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angara-ffs

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MAQ ATTACK.....FUCKING HILERIOUS OMG OMG OMG....

:rolleyes:

now, can you explain you picture?
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by Maq-attack
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[15:39] <Tzeentch> Angara
[15:39] <Angara> GUNZIE!
[15:39] <Angara> xD
[15:39] <Tzeentch> he tried to post a pic
[15:39] <Tzeentch> from another website
[15:39] <Tzeentch> but that website doesnt allow remote linking
[15:39] <Tzeentch> the funny thing is
[15:39] <Tzeentch> he tried to post an image
[15:39] <Tzeentch> that is called
[15:39] <Tzeentch> retarded_001.jpg
[15:40] <gunz> eikel
[15:40] <Tzeentch> and he just saw he couldnt.
[15:40] <Tzeentch> he self pwned himself or sth
[15:40] <Tzeentch> someone should post a retarded pic tbh
[15:40] <Tzeentch> oh wait...
 
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Maq-attack

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:rolleyes:
Edit: Btw the origonal pic shows on my comp, so i had no idea....

...honest. :(
 
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Lessurl

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Re: nice post

Originally posted by eneq
Nice Post :)

Yes it would b selfish of me if i claimed Galla :p
But i dont...

Thats the huge diff :)

thx for making my point stronger :p
BTW if you multiply you numbers wih 4 you get the same result as many private raids,,
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You have a point? :p
First you said you didn't think it was selfish.......now you say you do? If there is a point you are trying to make here then it's lost in all your personal attacks on certain people/guilds and your seemingly random changing of opinion from post to post. :p


Anyway, the point i was trying to make was that focus pullers have the least claim to galla as they benefit the least number of people in the realm. Private raids benefit more people so hence should have more claim to galla than a focus puller imo, and next up from that are the public raids which are (theoretically as anyone can go) beneficial to the whole realm.
So, i think that public raids have more claim on galla than private raids, who in turn have a bigger claim on galla than the focus pullers.
If someone wants to set up a private raid they should check around to see if any public raids are planned, if not they can go ahead and raid hopefully informing others of their plans so that no clashes will occur. Most people appear to be following this (Tzee etc.) and i don't see the problem with it. Focus pullers should check if any public OR private raids on and only if none are planned go ahead and pull. I'm sure it may be frustrating when you can't get into galla to pull because the only times that aren't currently used by a private raid are ones you cannot make. But think about courtesy, there are possibly 32 ish people who's night you could spoil just because you and up to 7 friends felt you wanted some fun for yourself. That is selfish imo. I'm pretty sure these 32 people would gladly stand down and not go to galla if they discovered a public raid was planned for the same day and hence they would be spoiling the fun for a lot of people if they went.
 
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eneq

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Re: Re: nice post

Originally posted by Lessurl
You have a point? :p
First you said you didn't think it was selfish.......now you say you do? If there is a point you are trying to make here then it's lost in all your personal attacks on certain people/guilds and your seemingly random changing of opinion from post to post. :p

Anyway, the point i was trying to make was that focus pullers have the least claim to galla as they benefit the least number of people in the realm.
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hmm I never CLAIM galla if i Focus.
Dont think any Focus puller CLAIM galla.
Might b wrong but if a fg Focuspulling in Galla Claims it its really stupid..

If i Focus pull in Galla i dont say to peeps. KEEP THE FECKING AWAY FROM MY DUNGEON..

Like private raids do.
Thus all that want to Goto Galla can do it.
And thus im not stopping anyone at all..
You call that selfish but thinks a private raid with 32 peeps stopping at least 600 hibbies from entering Galla for 17 hours is ok ?

Dont really get your stand in that case.

I dont think FFA raids can Claim Galla either.
BUT i wont pull when they raiding.

Make it simple:
Ene´s point:
1: NO-ONE CAN CLAIM A DUNGEON IN A GAME FOR THERE OWN PROFIT/FUN. THE DUNGEONS ARE FFA

Ene´s Stand.
1. I WONT PULL WHEN I KNOW THERE IS FFA RAIDS. IF ITS PRIVATE I DONT FECKING READ THE POST WHEN THE RAID WILL B DONE EVEN. THUS MIGHT PULL WHEN PRIVATE RAIDS ARE.

P.s I wont pull the 18/10 when CF is raiding but after that i wont read anything about Galla private raids.

Many have the same point as me.
Many dont.
 
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old.Kerosene

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Not that I give a poo but I say people should post public raids and they should be the only ones bookable. Other than that it's a free for all.

I would laugh my tits off at seeing some good old fashioned 'Keltoi Ant room' style leech wars. :)

edit: Goddamnit. I did honestly read the entire thread before posting. so much goddamn spam and twisting the main point was lost. What's worse.... I've just agreed with the original poster I think. I think.
 
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angara-ffs

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Originally posted by Maq-attack
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:rolleyes:
Edit: Btw the origonal pic shows on my comp, so i had no idea....

...honest. :(
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Hum, i fink your joke or flame failed allready :)
Why even try making it up :D
 
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eneq

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Originally posted by angara-ffs
Hum, i fink your joke or flame failed allready :)
Why even try making it up :D
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FINK ?

Ensceblabla come quick !!!!!!
He typed it wrong !!!
Ensceblabla !"!!! Tell him !!!
 
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eneq

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Originally posted by old.Kerosene
Not that I give a poo but I say people should post public raids and they should be the only ones bookable. Other than that it's a free for all.

I would laugh my tits off at seeing some good old fashioned 'Keltoi Ant room' style leech wars. :)

edit: Goddamnit. I did honestly read the entire thread before posting. so much goddamn spam and twisting the main point was lost. What's worse.... I've just agreed with the original poster I think. I think.
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I think the same o_O
 
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old.Garax

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Why should there be a difference between a FFA and a Private raid?

Both raids will have a large force of people who have decided to go to galla to attempt to clear the dungeon, both raids have had a raid leader organise the teams of people, so both raids should be given the same amount of respect from single groups of people focus pulling mobs before hand. It's not down to who is or isnt allowed to go on the raid , but it's down to common courtesey given to your fellow realm mates.

The fact that the raid can be completely ruined by a single focus pull is why people who want to try the FE have to make people aware of their intentions, and as such just staying out of the dungeon when a FFA raid is happening but not when a private raid is just out of order, as your not affording the other members of your realm the same respect as they would afford you if you were to arrange a full 3-5fg raid into galla.
 
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Maq-attack

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Originally posted by angara-ffs
Hum, i fink your joke or flame failed allready :)
Why even try making it up :D
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Stop picking on me. It makes me sad. :rolleyes:
 
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Lessurl

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Originally posted by eneq
hmm I never CLAIM galla if i Focus.
Dont think any Focus puller CLAIM galla.
Might b wrong but if a fg Focuspulling in Galla Claims it its really stupid..

If i Focus pull in Galla i dont say to peeps. KEEP THE FECKING AWAY FROM MY DUNGEON..

Like private raids do.
Thus all that want to Goto Galla can do it.
And thus im not stopping anyone at all..
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Several people have mentioned already, so you must know, that as soon as you kill one mob in galla you start the respawn timer. Hence, any raid that trys to go into galla later on runs a risk of being repopped on, just because you and a couple of mates wanted to go focus pull there. It's common courtesy, someone informs you they would like to organise a raid that night, you can either be a tit and go pull anyway spoiling an evening for 32ish people. Or you could be reasonable and say, that's fine, you've put a lot of effort into getting this raid ready, i'll respect that and stay away from galla so you have a nice raid. Choice is yours, reasonable or tit, from your posts here you seem to be leaning towards the tit option but i could be wrong.








Originally posted by eneq
Ensceblabla come quick !!!!!!
He typed it wrong !!!
Ensceblabla !"!!! Tell him !!!
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You know, posts like this do your credibility no good either. Purposefully misspelling/saying someones name because you think/know it annoys them is something 12 year old kids do in the playground.
 
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Maq-attack

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Originally posted by Letshurl
You know, posts like this do your credibility no good either. Purposefully misspelling/saying someones name because you think/know it annoys them is something 12 year old kids do in the playground.
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You tell 'em LetsHurl :puke:
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Maq, post your arguments/whine/complaint/point, and stop leeching off of others.

I'm aware you are as much anti-rvr-guild (or anti-'elite') as Llix and Eneq, but please. Don't base your opinions and arguments based soley on your assumptions and dislikes.
 
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Maq-attack

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I didn't realise i was anti-leet, don't think I am. Good luck to 'em all I say.

And I don't really think I had an argument, Eneq was lacking support and I hate to see someone outnumbered, so I simply made a post that didn't support what the "gang" was spouting on about.

(That was a long sentence)
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Ok, fine, but his point is invalid. His entire argument falls into the logic that we should all not care about the realm and other people. I care far more for this realm/server than a person really should, and people like him dont realise that. What he proposes is madness, a free for all with no rules, because at the end, there are incredibly few rules, to govern a community, from the official end of things (GOA).. we're meant to be governing ourselves, and his viewpoint is one that is more anarchistic than one that is more beneficial to the realm. I'd go as far as to say that he has a very short sighted view of this entire issue, and if followed through, this would set a bad precedent for Hib/Exc. I'm prepared to not let that happen, and fortunately, I do know that Eneq is more talk than actual action, but I'm puzzled by these small pockets of support. I was not aware people would line behind someone with their support to attempt to raise a standard, which overall, would hurt the realm more than benefit it, simply because they have a general dislike of all people and things that are more self-sufficient and better at some facets of the game than others.
 
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Maq-attack

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Bit of a predicament indeed.

One the one hand I dissagree with excluding the majority of the realm from entering a dungeon. And on the other hand i do agree that it is wrong to purposely jeopardise an organise raid within said dungeon.

I don't know the ins and outs of Galla, but couldn't the private raiders allocate themselves certain "boss mobs" and leave others incase someone else wanted to "focus" or "mini-raid" thus upholding both ends of common decency.

The private raiders would have their raid, the "focus" or "mini-raiders" would have their share too.

Of course the timings should be thought about for unplanned raids due to the respawn timer.

I think the main point here lies with respect for fellow Hibernians. For both private raiders and the rest of the population. There are not many days in the week, thus sharing them out means only 7 raids possible per week. If a private group claims the "popular" days/times every week where does that then leave the rest of the population?

I'm not talking about the "lazy" people that cannot be bothered to organise their own raid. That is, of course, pure laziness and their own fault entirely. I have a great respect for all raid leaders, the time, effort and patience they put in are second to none. I am talking about the "small" guilds/alliances which cannot summon the numbers/levels/classes to conduct their own mass raids. For them "focus" or "mini-raiding" is possibly their only alternative to free-for-all raids.

In conclusion, I think I might now have a point, plus I conlude that there is no right or wrong in this situation. Simply compromisation and consideration.



Take care of yourselves........ and eachother.
Thank you.
 
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