Private Galla raids cant Claim Galla

[<Harle>]

afaik the galla-respawn timer is something between 8-12 hours, and it starts the moment you kill the first mob. So spewing bullshit about 17 hours just to try to strengthen your pov doesn't help anyone here.

 

[mars]

heh well thats it then, if u dont accept focuspulling as raids ofc there isnt many raids, but most ppl wanna do things easy and not having to controll a zerg in there, or usually dont even have the possibility to gather a zerg.

I count focuspulling as a "raid", often it also includes a more ppl than just 5ppl, more like 1.5fg, but maybe not the perfect setup since it not as needed. I also see smaller guilds do this, its not just the farmers.

"For a long time, one day of the weekend has remained empty of any galla raids"

Well if u don't count FS:ers as raiders, but then you are also saying it isnt disturbing ur raid, but it is just as much as a zerg-raid.

Originally posted by Ziva
As for xping in Galla... come on peeps... there are lots of places where u can do that. Galladoria is used to get nice drops so lets use the dungeon for that and xp chars at some other place. Let's turn it around: imo it's pretty selfish to deny 16 or more people the fun of raiding just because u want to pl your alt in the same place because of the l33t xp.

ehm what are u talking about

 

[mars]

Originally posted by <Harle>
afaik the galla-respawn timer is something between 8-12 hours, and it starts the moment you kill the first mob. So spewing bullshit about 17 hours just to try to strengthen your pov doesn't help anyone here.

tbh 17 hours or 12 hours doesnt make any diff, unless ppl wake up 7 AM just to go galla

 

[Wot-do]

Re: Re: .

Originally posted by eneq
Fame....
before posting some information maybe check you should check again. Hmm or was it before you bought the Fame Acc ?

nope i was on the first dragon raid on hib.
been having it since hm late mars i think.

didnt know he sold stones thought.

Thought u would remember that, i recon we were on raid together.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by mars
heh well thats it then, if u dont accept focuspulling as raids ofc there isnt many raids, but most ppl wanna do things easy and not having to controll a zerg in there, or usually dont even have the possibility to gather a zerg.

I count focuspulling as a "raid", often it also includes a more ppl than just 5ppl, more like 1.5fg, but maybe not the perfect setup since it not as needed. I also see smaller guilds do this, its not just the farmers.

"For a long time, one day of the weekend has remained empty of any galla raids"

Well if u don't count FS:ers as raiders, but then you are also saying it isnt disturbing ur raid, but it is just as much as a zerg-raid.

I know who the focus pullers are, and I'm on good term with all of 'em, I don't think they would seek to intentionally ruin an announced raid.

This is a major reason why focus pulls are not 'raids' as such, since they make way (and rightly so imo) for larger raids with a lot more people.

Only reason why focus pulling can even begin to compare to a raid, is because of the respawn timer.

It's not the focus pullers I'm worried about, they know of my intent to go in on saturday by now, I strongly doubt any one of them would fuck things up for others.

I'm now concerned by the 'fanatics' such as Eneq.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Re: duuh

Originally posted by eneq
What ??

Hmmm oki you saying that peeps arnt allowed in Galla for whole saturday/friday night isnt same as claim Galla ?

You might b right but then we dont c the word "claim" the same way really....

IF im correctly you cant b in Galla 12 hours prior to raid and raid takes 4-5 hours = 17 hours

So in my definition of the word claim...tzee claiming the primary hibbie uber dungeon for 17 hours.

But feel free to find another word for it.....
You usually spamms words around you so you prlly can find a better 1...

Okay so in this reply you
1. Put words into my mouth.
2. Blame it on the language barrier / definition thing again, as I predicted you would.
3. Hide behind the 'you use a lot of words so I'm going to ignore your post' excuse again to avoid having to admit the truth in the matter. Which is, as always, that your vision is wrong.

 

[Maq-attack]

Not everybody reads BW, so announcing a raid here will not reach the entire population of Hib.

Always expect the unexpected....... uhhhhm ....... hang on, wouldn't that make the unexpected expected? So ..uhhhhm ...... expect the expected.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by Maq-attack
Not everybody reads BW, so announcing a raid here will not reach the entire population of Hib.

People inform eachother though, so it can't hurt ( ; Ofcourse there's always a chance that someone will just go into Galla unaware of the consequences and focus pull.. can't really blame anyone for that. If you bring the bare minimum to do Galla and something like that goes wrong, then you know it's the risk you took.

 

[kemuri]

Just wondering where you guys find the time to write all this stuff.. or read it even..

Just enjoy the sarcasme of the original post ffs.

 

[censi]

Conclusion:

1) if its a FE raid. Post it here and get it on the MOTD on the big alliances. Hopefully peeps will not go in.

2) if its a small Guild raid. Dont post here. Just chat with any farmers who enter Galla while your in there and explain your plans in a friendly manner.

The debait can go on but it just goes round in circles, and becomes more about personal attacks etc. The end of the day its a comp game. No one will die over this, its not really that big a deal.

 

[Arrows]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Ok, great, a good point.

My raids are no more better than anyone elses, this I will agree with, in terms of actual 'right' to a place.

If for example guild B was to make a raid, then fine, I would respect that and not interfere, and allow them to raid.

About Galla though - you will agree, that there is no way in hell, that you can just walk in to it and start killing mobs, right? I mean, just as you can go RvR with 8 people, you cant just wait at necht, gather any 8 people and go XP there.

8 people kinda thing is focus pulling, and I dont like that as much as the next person, but I can't do anything about it.

So, I could really, understand this, if I was claiming the Fins spot - but a large high end encounter such as Galla? I really doubt it when people start exaggerating the point and say I am restricting them.

some nice fair points made here

It seems like this dungeon is highly sought after
and maybe a way to accomadate the pharmers and the raiders should be possible...

why not take the pharmers along to kill some stuff...?

 

[eneq]

Re: Re: oki

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Stop babbling and getting excited please.

Your point is same as the one I just answered above.

Baaah check the time it was posted moron

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by censi
2) if its a small Guild raid. Dont post here. Just chat with any farmers who enter Galla while your in there and explain your plans in a friendly manner.

The problem doesn't only lie in the farmers that are in there when you do the raid, but the ones that kill mobs hours before that. As I understand it, the Galla mob respawn timer starts then, jeopardising later raids because mobs will spawn on them.

That's why people who organise a Galla raid, invite-only or freeforall, trie to ensure in all the ways they can that farmers don't focus pull Galla in advance, as it could very well ruin the raid for all involved.

In the case of an invite-only Galla raid, if you bear a grudge to the one organising and everyone tagging along -for instance because you weren't invited, or because you don't like the people participating, or you just have personal objections to invite-only raids-, nothing's stopping you from screwing it up by killing mobs in Galla a couple of hours before a raid starts. Eneq seems to think that he doesn't owe it to Tzeentch (nor to anyone participating I guess) to stay away from Galla before his raid, because Tzeenth's raid is invite-only -I think, though maybe it's just personal vendetta-. And thus Eneq made this thread, with the obvious threat that he could decide to ruin it for everyone joining his raid. I imagine he's selfrighteous -or as Tzee puts it, fanatic- enough to purposely do that.

 

[eneq]

yes

Originally posted by Ziva
. If your answer to this is yes then please treat others like u wish to be treated aswell.

Aye always trying to do that with peeps i never been discussing before.
All the flaming you seen here in this thread goes way back

Now about Galla.
Dunno if you read all the posts but in some Tzee threatning that if anyone Focuspulls/raids Galla before his raid he will make sure VNG takes actions against them people

"im claiming saturday

none of you fucking focus ****s better fuck it up!!"

Then some say its a joke casue of a heart or something

"I pay my sub too.. do you REALLY want to draw this out?

Do you REALLY want to see VGN intervene in traditional guild raids?"

Dunno what he really implaying here..Sounds like VGN will go out thrash some guildraids ?"

That doesnt sound like he really asking but rather demanding we must stop focus pulling before Tzee raids..

Ziva wrote
"If u were to raid Galla with your guildies or friends wouldn't it be nice if people respect your announcement and don't mess up your raid by pulling mobs before u enter? I think u would like to see that aswell wouldn't you? To have a full dungeon so you and your guildies and friends can have a nice raid.

You know we are around 500 hibbies online at peak time ?
Weekdays that is.
250 of them is on average lvl 50.

If i took a GG into galla ill occupy it for at least 15 hours so basically 1 whole day.In 1 week maybe 80 peeps can b in Galla.

Is that fair ?

Galla beem claimed weekends for last couple of weeks if i recollect right.

It cant go on like this.

"So just respect that and stop saying bs like "he forbids me to enter Galla blabla". He does not forbid u to go in simply because he can't. He asks you and others not to pull so his raid can be done, it's a request... not an order. And you choose to respect that or not."

Read my qouted earlier in this post about threatning.
And tell me he isnt trying to "forbid" me. OFC he cant but basically he demanding it casue else he make sure VGN will fuck my Guild up.... Tzee is such a nice guy...


"Don't blame Tzee for the way mobspawn in Galla is timed cause he didn't design it and therefore it's not his fault the timer is set on about 17 hours. Write to Rightnow if u don't agree on how it's designed."

I dont mind the respawn timer really..its not supposed to b a "farming dungeon" that whoever can get into and camp.
Its supposly to make sure the whole realm helps eachother to succed in killing the FE.
AS i said in earlier post. Public raids is ok cause all can attend. PRIVATE raids thats claim the whole dungeon for 17 Hours isnt imho.


"As for xping in Galla... come on peeps... there are lots of places where u can do that. Galladoria is used to get nice drops so lets use the dungeon for that and xp chars at some other place. Let's turn it around: imo it's pretty selfish to deny 16 or more people the fun of raiding just because u want to pl your alt in the same place because of the l33t xp."

No-one PL there alts in Galla m8.
Who have told you that ?

AS you plainly can c i havent called you STUPID/NOOB/EGO/ or whatever name.
Calling peeps names is a favour i just repays

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by Ensceptifica
Eneq seems to think that he doesn't owe it to Tzeentch (nor to anyone participating I guess) to stay away from Galla before his raid, because Tzeenth's raid is invite-only -I think, though maybe it's just personal vendetta-. And thus Eneq made this thread, with the obvious threat that he could decide to ruin it for everyone joining his raid. I imagine he's selfrighteous -or as Tzee puts it, fanatic- enough to purposely do that.

EnscBlabla

You are totaly clueless arnt you ?

My post wasnt ment for tzee raids. It was for all private raids. You can ask tzee if i EVER fecked him up in any way

I healed him in RvR and ressed him
Just before we dont c things in the same way i would never ever ruin his gameplay. If you ask around you b surprised how many peeps thinks im a big fecking helper in many way

BTW i havent seen your definition of the word "claim" yet ? or you havent found a better word havent you ?
Freud will b fucking having a laugh in the grave at you imho

I cant stop smiling at you Ensceblabla
You prolly make a new post with many words saying nothing really

Can you plz say where im saying that ill ruin Tzee raids ?
Can you plz state 1 episode describing i EVER griefed Tzee ?

Tzee can you plz have the decency to tell Ensceblabla the truth in that matter plz.
Relly hate when people trying to undermine others reputation claiming false things..

But as Göring said it awhile back... Tell a lie once and it stays a lie tell it a 1000 times and its the truth..
Seems Ensceblabla told the first lie. Hope you can stop it Tzee

 

[Ensceptifica]

example dialogue
Eneq: 1 + 1 = 3 and I think anybody who disagrees is wrong.
Ensc: Hey that's not true, that's 2.
Eneq: You're reading it wrong, and you use too many words, and I actually meant 3x3 = 10.
Ensc: Hey you're still wrong. That's 9, and your first error is still wrong.
Eneq: Stop using so many words. And you're not reading what I'm saying. Oh and I'm using a different mathematic system, see it's just a matter of definition. Haha look I'm so smart and I laugh at your feeble attempts to prove otherwise.

You're impervious to reason.

 

[eneq]

lies

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example dialogue
Eneq: 1 + 1 = 3 and I think anybody who disagrees is wrong.
Ensc: Hey that's not true, that's 2.
Eneq: You're reading it wrong, and you use too many words, and I actually meant 3x3 = 10.
Ensc: Hey you're still wrong. That's 9, and your first error is still wrong.
Eneq: Stop using so many words. And you're not reading what I'm saying. Oh and I'm using a different mathematic system, see it's just a matter of definition. Haha look I'm so smart and I laugh at your feeble attempts to prove otherwise.

Originally posted by Ensceptifica

You're impervious to reason.

Lie number 2.....
great work Encseblabla only 998 left now....

 

[old.Xanthian]

Enefucktard: If this was about someone that wasnt a VGN member you couldnt give two fucks, your just a pathetic jealous child. Grow up.

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Enefucktard: If this was about someone that wasnt a VGN member you couldnt give two fucks, your just a pathetic jealous child. Grow up.

Calm down Xan....Calm dowm...
Take a breather ..

REad post again.. And tell me where THE HELL..im pointing at VNG ?
You so BIGHEADED to think your the only ones doing PRIVATE GALLA RAIDS ?

I dont c why you not answering the real question here and trying to make it a "i hate VNG" thread ?

I have friends in VGN so why should i hate em ?

Dont assume thing, Act on facts...

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by Arrows
It seems like this dungeon is highly sought after
and maybe a way to accomadate the pharmers and the raiders should be possible...

why not take the pharmers along to kill some stuff...?

Good question really...

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by eneq
REad post again..

There it is again \o/ \o/ Typical how everyone seems to misread every single post you make innit?

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Enefucktard: If this was about someone that wasnt a VGN member you couldnt give two fucks, your just a pathetic jealous child. Grow up.

BTW XAnthian i ever griefed you ingame`? or anyone else in VNG ?

 

[old.Xanthian]

Originally posted by eneq

You so BIGHEADED to think your the only ones doing PRIVATE GALLA RAIDS ?

Did I say that ? Don't think I did.

I said..

<gets out his simple terms for simple people book>
You, wouldnt spout this shite, if it didnt involve a VGN member.
If Celtic Fist wanted to claim, you wouldnt say a word.

So basically, you just another sad, pathetic kiddy with a vendetta against VGN, for whatever reason (if any, which is doubtful).
Maybe YOU should calm down, and not get worked up about nothing.

ok ?

 

[VodkaFairy]

Guys why don't you all relax... this is going nowhere.

It's okay for people to farm galladoria for drops and not announce it, but suddenly tzee is stupid because he wants to actually tell everyone else on the forums he wants to do a raid for _fun_. ?

Marsey.. I thought better of you than this.. jesus ..

 

[old.ST200]

I disagree with vodkafairy on this one.






Seriously though, Hibernia is a soap opera.

 

[mars]

heh vf, then ur being partial or smth cus can't see why else you would think others now

 

[azshara]

I SENSE SUCH WAJN. NOW STFU

 

[Ziva]

Re: yes

Originally posted by eneq
AS you plainly can c i havent called you STUPID/NOOB/EGO/ or whatever name.

You can call me anything u like cause i really don't care to be honest.

As for the rest of your post, i have tried to explain what Tzee means in my opinion. I don't know Tzee well, i am not a vgn member so i'm not prejudged. You however are i think. I don't know why and i don't care either but it seems you have a serious problem with vgn raiding Galla and asking people to not pre-pull.

Only reason i could think of you having this problem is when u organize raids there frequently yourself and feel like u can't because of the "claiming" thing. However i can't remember u as organizing frequent raids in Galla (though i don't play hib often i have to admit that) so i really don't see what bothers you so much with this request. But please don't try to explain it again cause we really don't share the same view on this.

All i can say is happy griefing. I hope this game will still provide you with some fun cause i'm sure there are other things to do then fighting about Galladoria.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

I'm not so concerned about you, Eneq. I believe Zarko to be a down to earth and decent guy, actually, I admire him for quite some reasons, and I don't believe for a second if you purposefully went out and tried to ruin any raid I setup, that there would not be ramifications for you as a member of DO.

And please.. stop being so petty with Enscep.
Everyone I think understands Enscep quite well, except you.

The world does not revolve around you son.

 

[censi]

we raided galla tonight. Lliad draig were in there b4 us so we asked what they were doing and made plan to kill other mobs they werent doing. tdmm pm'd us and we work out exactly the same thing. was all very friendly and we did our own thing in harmony. (nailed BM and it dropped 2 gloves!? )