Private Galla raids cant Claim Galla

[eneq]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Private Galla raids cant Claim Galla

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Eneq, it's a matter of trust and common decency.

Who give's anyone the right? No-one.

So why should I not go ahead and pick up the drops from mobs and keep them? After all if I taunted them the most in a raid, well then they are mine?

Why should I not focus pull before Xfears raid? What's so different about his raid, and a private one? That you will piss off less people if you use the cover story that the private raid is being elite?

If we all start coming along with this attitude there would be a lot less realm co-operation Eneq.

And here from other post

"Just not Galla? Why?

I pay my sub too.. do you REALLY want to draw this out?

Do you REALLY want to see VGN intervene in traditional guild raids?

Step off, guild raids have been here since the start of daoc live, people have the common courtesy to give the guild the space to go together.

You wanna fuck with me, over the fact I'd like to take my guild for some fun and drops in galla?

The fact that galla has a massive respawn timer and different respawn rules, make it neccessary to inform people of intent.

If YOU dont have the good intent to allow people this, then the system is screwed up.. I did not come here to ASK your permission fellow citizens of Hibernia.. you are not my rulers, nor are you my masters.. I came here with a notification of intent.

Speak to your GMs if you cannot comprehend why guilds allow each other the time and space to excercise their strength as a guild "




Hey m8.. Getting bigheaded ?

Who is fucking with who ?
Did we hit a nerve here ?
You think your wrong ? or what is it ?
"Do you REALLY want to see VGN intervene in traditional guild raids?" What you saying here ? You threatning people cause they dont think like you ?

I havent read anywhere in any post that they will feck up any raid.


I dont think its fair to claim dungeons in the way you do it. (and NO its not Ene hates VNG thread so stop making it 1)

You cant claim something NOT yours. If you was first at a pop site like fins then ok you was there first. But claiming stuff before is stupid imho.

If we could claim things whats next ? Claim fins spot ? Claim DF ?


And specially Claim a dungeon then saying " Get off the dungeon fuckers its mine !!!"

And its a HUGE diff if its a Public or Private raid imho.

 

[Hestetun]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Private Galla raids cant Claim Galla

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
I invite CF, IG, PDC, DA, TD, CBH, and several other guilds, in a rotation fashion, for the dragon, and soon galla.

oic.

 

[Stallion-]

:bore:

 

[VodkaFairy]

Tzee just wants to make a raid with his friends and asks if he can have a clean dungeon without messed up respawn things etc

I don't see why so many people are whining?

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
Tzee just wants to make a raid with his friends and asks if he can have a clean dungeon without messed up respawn things etc

I don't see why so many people are whining?

Tzee wrote
"im claiming saturday

none of you fucking focus ****s better fuck it up!!"

 

[gravediggerr]

its mythics fault they never shouldve made such uber dungeon anyway

everyone the same for the law i say

lets hope when ToA comes out it doesnt start all over

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by eneq
Tzee wrote
"im claiming saturday

none of you fucking focus ****s better fuck it up!!"

yes. and ?

he did the smilie under it to indicate it was a joke

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
yes. and ?

he did the smilie under it to indicate it was a joke

Soz didnt c any smiley under really.....
Saw a URL but with Tzee its never good to follow..

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by eneq
Soz didnt c any smiley under really.....
Saw a URL but with Tzee its never good to follow..

first you're too lazy to just read the post

then you say you can't follow him ?

right

 

[azshara]

vf won.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by mars
noone else doing private raids are crying on bw cus some1 killed a boss before their raid, but i guess some ppl have to get everything for themself. It shows how u are now when in vng.

I see.

Neither am I.

I just dont want a repop in the middle of my raid?

I'd like the full challenge of the dungeon.

When I'm in VGN? No, I've always been like this. All I see is people who cannot do something for themselves get green with jealousy that I invite selected people only, and they are not making the cut, so they whine. This is in your case.

Eneq is a self righteous hypocritcal bastard, who I'll respond to, now -

Originally posted by eneq
Hey m8.. Getting bigheaded ?

Who is fucking with who ?
Did we hit a nerve here ?
You think your wrong ? or what is it ?
"Do you REALLY want to see VGN intervene in traditional guild raids?" What you saying here ? You threatning people cause they dont think like you ?

I havent read anywhere in any post that they will feck up any raid.


I dont think its fair to claim dungeons in the way you do it. (and NO its not Ene hates VNG thread so stop making it 1)

You cant claim something NOT yours. If you was first at a pop site like fins then ok you was there first. But claiming stuff before is stupid imho.

If we could claim things whats next ? Claim fins spot ? Claim DF ?


And specially Claim a dungeon then saying " Get off the dungeon fuckers its mine !!!"

And its a HUGE diff if its a Public or Private raid imho.[/i]

1) You, Eneq, international hero of whiners, champion of self righteousness and hypocrisy, lord of all that is to do with retardedness, see me being successful at something, having fun, see I'm one of the 'rvr elite'.. and you just cant help it.. you are so anti-establishment, you MUST attack me.. there MUST be something corrupt about me, right?

You, are fucking, with me.

2) Nerve? No, but I will not have my work and organisational efforts hampered by mere scum like you.

3) I believe I am right, that is why I argue this point. You, I believe, are so wholly incorrect it pains me to even see this discussion happening.

4) I am trying to explain to you the ramifications of what you wish to pass here. If you say that all areas are open to everyone, because we all pay our sub, and no-one has any more right to a place than anyone else, then you do not have ANY right to complain when a bunch of level 50's pull aggro incorrectly onto another raid, or start screwing around people xping.

5) Your point was not so subtle, your threat was hidden, it was VERY clear in the tone of your post. If you wanted to make a point, you could have done without the mention of - oh I will focus pull on the same day as private raids. Your threat is visible, clearly, Eneq.

6) Why is it not fair to claim that dungeon? Why is it fair for Xfear to claim his public raid? I pay my sub, you pay yours, Xfear pays his, the people that attend both, pay theirs. The people that come with me enjoy the private raid aspect, the non-afkness, the greater challenge and increased teamwork and efficiency... why can't we have one day of the week to go raid? This is how we have fun, yet you come here, and tell me to my face, that you want to deny me this?

7) I claim Galla, outwith Xfears raid. I speak to him, learn when he will raid, and then I plan mine in advance, I notify the people who typically focus pull mobs in Galla, and I notify other people on BW, so that 2 raids do not collide and therefor result in a bad evening for everyone involved, the work of two leaders going to ruin.

8) Invalid point. So if I park a focus group in Galla, before Xfears next announced raid, it is mine? Hypocrisy. Same with the fins argument.. Fins cannot be compared to Galla, but if you go along this line, it will be.

9) You don't seem to have images enabled on barrysworld forums. But even a simple glance at the URL, and you would have noticed it links to an image called - HEART.GIF - Make up your own mind in what tone of voice I was speaking. In fact.. on second thoughts, I have no idea what your politically correct hypocritical mind might think up. It was said in a humorous, friendly manner.

10) Anything else?

 

[VodkaFairy]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
10) Anything else?

I fink nobody can be arsed to read all that, so, just dont ruin tzee's raid.

ok

ps. tzee is right!

 

[Freppe^^]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
I fink nobody can be arsed to read all that, so, just dont ruin tzee's raid.

ok

ps. tzee is right!

 

[shadybrack]

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
I fink nobody can be arsed to read all that, so, just dont ruin tzee's raid.

ok

ps. tzee is right!

i read it!!!

tzee has too much time on his hands

edit :: so do i, for reading it :/

 

[Cuthervaen]

Galla sucks anyway, I never had so much fun back in the old days trying to catch the monkey's tail for a free roundabout turn, but the Air Primal is even worse.

And that final guy giving you his toes to clean out is just a bad joke.

But anyway chanters should stay in the abyss, I've yet to see one of these focus pulling group manage to move 10 meters from one spot to another without getting wiped (seems no one hinted them on what to do when the mobs don't attack the pet) so they could still train more there.

 

[Demolay]

Thought MMORPG's were massive multiplayer Roleplaying Games
DO what u want to do part of roleplaying I'd say.

 

[Cloak_]

TZ wot happened to epic mob hunt ;o

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch

4) I am trying to explain to you the ramifications of what you wish to pass here. If you say that all areas are open to everyone, because we all pay our sub, and no-one has any more right to a place than anyone else, then you do not have ANY right to complain when a bunch of level 50's pull aggro incorrectly onto another raid, or start screwing around people xping.

Well according to the coc this is basically the case, you can't claim a spot but you can't interfere with another persons pull because that's griefing. You have to share it, however that works is down to us, the players, to keep it civil (otherwise you end up harrassing, another breach of coc) and as amicable as possible.

It's a damn shame we don't have csrs on our servers at times, would be nice to have more official standpoints to break down some of the bickering

The thing with galla is that free for alls are widely praised as being for the greater good, small raids that are closed off/guild based are therefore not as good but like you said earlier, it's a matter of decency and respect, sure no one can claim galla or any of it's mobs, the "ownership" of a mob is only established when it's pulled, interfere and end up 100% in the wrong.

I would say for the people involved to pick different days, based around the free for alls. Which is what most the level headed people are doing anyway.

So no one can go when they want all the time, well can't always get into the prime xp spots either but life in hib goes on, I wonder if anyone would whine so much if the drops were only half as good eh

 

[rauno]

u will never work out yor problems like this use fist's imo and the looser will never say a word again

 

[eneq]

baah

Originally posted by VodkaFairy
first you're too lazy to just read the post

then you say you can't follow him ?

right

Nope VF you should read my post.
I can follow him but its never GOOD to follow tzee...somehow my head spins from him running in circles..

And yes i read the post

Tzee wrote
"im claiming saturday

none of you fucking focus ****s better fuck it up!!"

i even posted it twice now.....

 

[angara-ffs]

Originally posted by azshara
vf won.

omg....this isnt a contest you luwi!!!

Btw, what you doin here anyways.
This is a dangerous thread, not a place for small luwi's as j00 ;x

 

[Arrows]

Why post here then respond to the concieted dumb ass comments.
Say what your gonna do and do it ... no need to defend yourself if your right... defending yourself makes people think that there view is more correct because its making you feel threatened so you defend yourself.

Weve got two valid points floating around.
1. No one can "claim" dungeons etc doesnt matter how big your guild is.
2. People should co-operate with one another to enrich the game for all. ( As in private raids will suck if peops dont )

Both valid i spose.
Perhaps someone should think of a possible solution to this that works for both parties and not just one or the other as is so often the case on these boards.

Why not have a day or time of day for private raids and then the interested groups can work it out amongst themselves on as to who raids when. It is the realms dungeon and the little man has as much right as the big man.

And also what eneq said about public raids.
Its good that he doesnt try to muck those up because they are for the whole realm and meet the criteria for point two where as private raids do not which makes there "dungeon is ours today" arguement not as fair for obvious reasons.

 

[Arrows]

bah all the really good points were made on page two and i hadnt read any of that.

Btw Censi was unusually right imo and hit it all on the head

 

[rose]

Its interesting to read some of the points made here. But there is a legal point that was touched on also. People have said if someone goes to Galla and messes up someone elses raid ie. due to timers etc being reset, they will intervere with the said persons pull and potentially get them killed. Unfortunately as I understand you cant do this, if you do you can be banned if it is reported.

So.... it would appear to me that the people who are not happy with people claiming galla have a legal upperhand. Unless of course they intervere while a raid is on.

I personally think you should make love not war Sharing is caring after all, thats why I wub Xfear.

 

[mars]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
I see.

Neither am I.

I just dont want a repop in the middle of my raid?

I'd like the full challenge of the dungeon.

When I'm in VGN? No, I've always been like this. All I see is people who cannot do something for themselves get green with jealousy that I invite selected people only, and they are not making the cut, so they whine. This is in your case.

lol.. been doing galla raids before u started with ur shit. And yes u have always been like this, just that it shows more now. Maybe you should make some more ffa dragonraids and sell the loot so you dont have to farm galla more. Or maybe jump to another guild, been in vng bit long now, or isnt there a new fotm-weareleetmannerandknowsbest-guild yet? oh no.. AR went dead

 

[angara-ffs]

Originally posted by mars
lol.. been doing galla raids before u started with ur shit. And yes u have always been like this, just that it shows more now. Maybe you should make some more ffa dragonraids and sell the loot so you dont have to farm galla more. Or maybe jump to another guild, been in vng bit long now, or isnt there a new fotm-weareleetmannerandknowsbest-guild yet? oh no.. AR went dead

Want a medal for your great work?
How much hate can you put in 1 post

 

[Ziva]

I don't see what the fuss is all about.

Tzee announced his plans in a somewhat sarcastic/funny way to prevent himself and guild to clash with other planned raids and also to prevent others from clashing his raid. Sure he can't claim Galla but nobody can since anyone can walk in Galla anytime. I'm sure most people would agree on this.

Afais all he asks is people to respect and take into account his plans to raid Galla. If u wish to fekk up Tzee's raid with his guildies just for fun or because u want to drag the CoC along to prove your right then please think of the consquences that would happen if everyone behaved like that and didn't respect a request like this.

If everyone just respects the days for free-for-all raids and plans private/focus raids around them with some communicating to prevent clashes i'm sure everyone can happily raid Galla.

 

[Wot-do]

Originally posted by mars
lol.. been doing galla raids before u started with ur shit. And yes u have always been like this, just that it shows more now. Maybe you should make some more ffa dragonraids and sell the loot so you dont have to farm galla more. Or maybe jump to another guild, been in vng bit long now, or isnt there a new fotm-weareleetmannerandknowsbest-guild yet? oh no.. AR went dead

eh why whine bout dragon raids? I recon alot of ppl got the stones they needed from em.
See no reason why u got so much anger tbh, its just a game,

chill abit have some coca-cola

 

[angara-ffs]

Originally posted by Ziva
I don't see what the fuss is all about.

Tzee announced his plans in a somewhat sarcastic/funny way to prevent himself and guild to clash with other planned raids and also to prevent others from clashing his raid. Sure he can't claim Galla but nobody can since anyone can walk in Galla anytime. I'm sure most people would agree on this.

Afais all he asks is people to respect and take into account his plans to raid Galla. If u wish to fekk up Tzee's raid with his guildies just for fun or because u want to drag the CoC along to prove your right then please think of the consquences that would happen if everyone behaved like that and didn't respect a request like this.

If everyone just respects the days for free-for-all raids and plans private/focus raids around them with some communicating to prevent clashes i'm sure everyone can happily raid Galla.

Amen!
Its not that hard people to just READ the post and and try to understand it.
I suspect some of you who post crap about this and whines, are just

a. jealous for not being able to join
b. Just hate VGN and like to rant on about my guild.

 

[mars]

Originally posted by angara-ffs
Want a medal for your great work?
How much hate can you put in 1 post

yes plz
but the reason for mention it is kinda obvious if u read the quote