Prime Time - The truth

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Armolas

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I didn't know about this site before, but it seems there is a stats tracker for daoc here.

Now assuming prime time is over 1000 players on line (not too bad an assumption means attackers and defenders will both have plenty of people to do their thing a rough guide to prime time is:

Weekdays 4pm - 1.30 pm GMT (5-2:30 CET)
Fridays 3.30 - 2.30 GMT ( 4.30 - 3.30 CET)
Saturdays 12.30 - 3.00 GMT (1.30 - 4.00 CET)
Sundays 12.00 - 1.00 GMT (1.00 - 2.00 CET)

Now aside for the morals of out of prime hours (and you can see that 5.30 is about as un-prime as you can possibly get) at least can we agree on prime time hours?

PS

I personally don't agree with night raids, although if the regular night time players get it together to do a raid that is different from those who usually are in bed by 2 either staying up all night especially or setting their alarm clocks early etc.

BTW I am sometimes one of the regular night time players, depending on work and so on.

But I can't tell you what to do or not to do, ALL 3 REALMS HAVE DONE NIGHT RAIDS and most have given it up, for reasons Tzee has gone over here again and again - Although in the past it was the mids who most steadfastly were against the idea, they actually persuaded us and even the Albs that they had a good point.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Unless you play outside of those hours...then it's kinda...not prime time.

'Prime Time' is relative.
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
Unless you play outside of those hours...then it's kinda...not prime time.

'Prime Time' is relative.
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Prime time is not relative, it's the time period when the majority of players are online (simple math). If you are not online at the time, you are not part of that majority, so it's still not prime time even if you like to think so.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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K, your right. Lets not do relic raids any more when they dont have enough defenders, they dont like it.

We apologise.
 
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old.Xanthian

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
K, your right. Lets not do relic raids any more when they dont have enough defenders, they dont like it.

We apologise.
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Twat
 
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old.Xanthian

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos


wow...you sure do take this seriously..
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lol dont tell me about taking the game serious.
Im not the sad fucker that got up at 6am to attack some NPC's on a game.

:eek:
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
K, your right. Lets not do relic raids any more when they dont have enough defenders, they dont like it.

We apologise.
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Hehe, way to go sidestepping the issue. I debunk your little statement about prime time, and you change tack without missing a beat. Note that I did not say anything about when to launch relic raids, and you still felt the need to try and justify yourself.

Instead of rehashing my thoughts on Saturday's raid, I'll just post a link to my previous post on the subject: http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=564149#post564149

And that's all I have to say about that. ;)
 
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agreiloth

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Hi Armolas

Nice research mate, i was looking for numbers like that myself ;)

But i still think there's one point we need to bring out (and this has nothing to do with a so called RR, there are other threads for that), and that is all the minority of players that play outside these "primetimes". I still that we are a bit arrogant to try and tell them when it's "primetime". I think that the fact, that actually most players play within these timeframes makes the word "primetime" obsolete, since these timeframes will naturally be when the most action, and most epic battles and such will happen.

Just my 2c

/Agreiloth
 
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Armolas

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I am occasionally, depending on work, one of the people who play outside primetime hours, but as I said there is a difference between those folks getting a raid together and the regular players staying up late / getting up early specifically to do a raid.

In fact if you are normally on at 5 or 6 in the morning there simply aren't enough people to make a raid with which is rather a shame - especially as those guys probably miss the latenight raid planning and won't be aware of it as the rest of the realm logged off early to set their alarm clocks before the night shift log in.

Again, I don't want to get into the rights and wrongs of it, but the people who play late night know very well it isn't primetime, its just like when you watch TV at those hours, it may be your main viewing time, but it's not primetime as far as the network is concerned.
 
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old.LandShark

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian


lol dont tell me about taking the game serious.
Im not the sad fucker that got up at 6am to attack some NPC's on a game.

:eek:
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And the winner is.... Xanthian!
 
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Apathy

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But I bet he had to get up at 6am to type out that entirely pointless alt list of a signature.

It's like they say here on the Canary Isles, "Shut the fuck up, por favor!".

Prime time is OBVIOUSLY any time when there is more than two sorcerers online.

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K0nah

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any relic raid after midnight = lame

and expect it to be retaken at the same time u take it.

hence achieves nothing except 2 sets of doors that need repairing...
 
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poppamies

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rr after 12...
are we talking gmt ? cet ? or some other time zone ?
12 gmt is actually 02.00 in Finland, not to mention the ppl who live in russia (they got 12 different time zonez there)
So what is the primetime ?
And who really cares if its primetime for u at 9-23gmt ?
All who play, actually also pays for the game, so i dont see why they shouldnt do what they like with their own money.
 
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old.Xanthian

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Originally posted by poppamies
rr after 12...
are we talking gmt ? cet ? or some other time zone ?
12 gmt is actually 02.00 in Finland, not to mention the ppl who live in russia (they got 12 different time zonez there)
So what is the primetime ?
And who really cares if its primetime for u at 9-23gmt ?
All who play, actually also pays for the game, so i dont see why they shouldnt do what they like with their own money.
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Well Excalibur being an ENGLISH server, you'd assume that it would be GMT ?
 
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poppamies

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Well, most players in Mid live sweden,norway,finland and denmark.
denmark,sweden and norway got CET.
And finland got CET+1 hour.
 
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old.Xanthian

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well still...
6am GMT will be 7am in scandinavian countries.. which doesnt maker any better.
 
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fl-gorre

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ghar whine all u want
night raids are the nicest things ever
u get 60+ppl settin their clockz or putting toothpicks in their eye carcases bein motivated to dislect normal social life for just a single relic wich make em hit or nuke with their RPG char
a: they coudl write a book of this or reg. a speilberg movie out of it
b: ghagha we gone gank u due 10% benefit
 
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fl-gorre

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btw if u are so involved and feel so bad about the fact that some enemie realm took ur dear beloved relic at 5am while u were sleepin and coudl do nothing about it
rather blame ur own realm then the otherz
 
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AbPoon

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I Think i'd rather tear my eye's out then read another of your post's gorre.

Stop butchering my fk'ing laungage :p
 
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kirennia

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primetime for the individual = whenever u log on...simple really innit.

This is a roleplaying game. I don't seem to remember truces being drawn over real battles so why should it in this. Don't say stop being stupid about the roleplaying thing cause its true.
 
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old.Xanthian

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Put it this way, if Hibs took the relics back at an ungodly hour (which we wont), would you retaliate and take them back at 6am again ?
The answer is YES.

Personally I really dont see the point in it, taking keep is fking boring, like watching paint dry.. Nevermind bashing down 3 lvl 10 doors at 6am.

Put some fun into your raids, if you fail prime time, TRY again..
It wakes the whole of Hibernia up when someone mentions Dagda on the alliance chat and it adds some "fun" to the game knowing our relic(s) could be in danger.

If you want 6am raids from Alb and Hibernia, then keep it up, but at the end of the day, you'll be the ones moaning.
 
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fenikske

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http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=41743

again another whine "primetime" thread

primetime scenario :
take 400 mids , 400 albs and 400 mids all level 40+ are online at primetime.
- Mids attack albion : 400 envaders & 400 defenders = massive lag + 50 % zonecrash
- 250 hibs trying to find out where the rest is and also comes to albion = ungodly lag + 100% chance of a zonecrash

whats the fun in this then I say?

DAOC is an 24/7 online game , if ya look strategicly you won't gonna do a relic raid that a) is in ungodly lag and b) has 2% chance of success

aldoh I work and I don't have any means to be online at night, non primetime relic raids are more advisable. That doesn't exclude that raids can be organized in primetime. If ya don't wanna loose your precious relic , make them fixed to the relic keep and sell tickets for visiting it
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian


Well Excalibur being an ENGLISH server, you'd assume that it would be GMT ?
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Midgard is fulla swedes + russians though :rolleyes:
 
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