Ppl getting banned for "foul" language now??

[evzy]

Nope - the whole gist of this thread is really about someone being abusive to another player just because they did something the other player didnt like - that just isnt really acceptable in any situation RL or Game - there is a difference between swearing and being abusive ..

 

[Cemeterygates]

Nope - the whole gist of this thread is really about someone being abusive to another player just because they did something the other player didnt like - that just isnt really acceptable in any situation RL or Game - there is a difference between swearing and being abusive ..

i'll say for the 3rd time...i dont support it...but i dont get why it bothers people so much...its just beyond me...its words....an its the internet.
its like "omg some1 called me a bad word on a game!!! fuck!!! its the end of the world!" just seems silly to me...is what im tryin to get at but seems you are missing my point an no i aint bein bitchy so dont think that.
i dont support it for the the fact its just a game an i can see how people dont find it fun to be verbally....or in the case of daoc "textualy" abused but i just think it bothers people too much....im not saying its right but i think the way some people react to it is a bit ott cos personally im just like "ye so what ur prob 12 or in a middle age crisis an goin bald an shit an are stressed...im over it....go tell some1 who cares" but i guess people react to stuff differently....
an in RL it can be more than acceptable for the right reason ofc...imo atleast

 

[Punishment]

snowslash?!?! omg...u were a menty right?? or a hib caster...one of the classic variety yes?? from irland if i remmeber right?

I played a rr5 Chanter like 3 years ago but deleted and rerolled again

Back when daoc was fun ? remember ?

 

[Cemeterygates]

I played a rr5 Chanter like 3 years ago but deleted and rerolled again

Back when daoc was fun ? remember ?

yes..but am i thinkin right on who you are?? i coulda been on my ranger or any of my chars...i dont remembe..but i remembe rhavin a laugh with u 1 late evening in cm....an if i remember right u used to work in a petrol station?

 

[Punishment]

Statoil roxxors

yes..but am i thinkin right on who you are?? i coulda been on my ranger or any of my chars...i dont remembe..but i remembe rhavin a laugh with u 1 late evening in cm....an if i remember right u used to work in a petrol station?

Yesyes i used to be an assistant manager on a statoil , but i quit as i figured out that i really hate management jobs ... so now im an assistant manager in a supermarket ?

What was ure chars name ?

 

[evzy]

Couple of points - 1 - How do you know that the person being told to f'off , die irl etc isnt someone under say the age of 14 (though age shouldnt have anything to do with it)

2 - The code of conduct - does mention not being foul and abusive etc

3 - What right do you (I don't mean you Cemetary I mean you as in any person being abusive in game ) have to be abusive to me just because its a game - if you told me to f'off, die irl etc in RL I would quite probably kick the shit out of you because you have offended me plain and simple- but because its a game and you haven't got the same potential consequence of your actions doesnt make it ok - therefore leaving /filter off means I can screenshot you and let you have a little holiday - granted not as good as giving you a good kicking but hey ho it will do for now...

I would like to point out I have never SS'd anyone and don't remember the last time someone was abusive to me - generally in-game I like to think I am like I am in real life - very easygoing and polite to others.. but if someone ever did give me shit then I would have no hesitation in taking that screenshot and sending it to GOA...

The message I am trying to get across for the last time is....

Fine swear with ya mates / in a crowd of people you know....but never assume that its ok with people you don't know, and never ever be abusive to someone in a game just because they play differently to you.... Because...maybe it should cross your mind that not everyone thinks like you.

 

[Muylaetrix]

Fine swear with ya mates / in a crowd of people you know....but never assume that its ok with people you don't know, and never ever be abusive to someone in a game just because they play differently to you....

:worthy:

 

[Javai]

I fully support this action by GoA, it is a shame that it took so long!

Over the last few months rvr got to a stage for me that after every single fight I would hold my breath waiting for the abusive PM or /yell to come, to the point where I could not actually enjoy playing at all. And all because I chose to play the game in the spirit it is advertised - large scale rvr. In the end I had to stop running the public BGs I ran every night for a few months last year, which I am sure many will back me up in saying has lessened the game experience for many.

The issue is that a minority who want to play the game according to some unwritten rulebook have come to think they are the game, although the figures show they are merely a vocal minority found on forums such as these.

I am not offended by swearing per se and so do not play with /filter turned on. However, I am by my own admission fairly sensitive but I see no warning on the box that tells those of a sensitive disposition not to play it. Those who want to be able to hurl abuse around are those who think that the internet is still the playground of 18-25 year old males, interestingly many of those posting against this action were those who also posted it was people's own faults if they fell foul of an e-mail scam.

 

[Shike]

/ignore rox

Getting upset over some foul language is abit.. weird, if someone is particulary annoying, /ignore is your friend. It works very very well.

I swear like a drunken sailor sometimes, not once have anyone ever complained about it..

One could ofc argue that since its a MMO, the only way of communication is the text we type (unless some sort of Voicecom is beeing used ofc) and therefore the written text should be respected to a certain extent but.. come'on, its still just a G.A.M.E! If its too much, once again, /ignore.

Banning players in an already thin playerbase because of verbal misconduct is just plain dumb and unnecessary. It should be enough with a GM popping on telling the person to calm down alittle bit and put alittle thought into the words (as an extreme punishment..). If that said person then go on and type alot of bullshit in /as /broad /bu etc then its perhaps time for a 3dayban, if he didnt learn from that, permaban since then the player is beeing obnoxious and plain stupid and he/she is probably not an asset to the game anyway.

 

[Pirkel]

Where the hell did the idea come from that the rules should change cause the playerbase is getting smaller?

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

 

[Cemeterygates]

evzy i seriously think u seem to have misunderstood what i was sayin cos i never said it was right....i just dont get why people find it so bad cos after all it just the net..who gives a fuck...omg some lil dipshit that i could more than likley take their head off with a right hook called me a **** cos i hit some1 they didnt want me to hit...it really dont bother me that much an what im saying is i dont get why people are so miffed about it....so what....some lil tosser called u a ****...big deal...im really not offended by it an my point is i dont understand why others find it so upsetting...an ye u sayin givin em beats if they a tosser to u rl....fair play man...im the same....treat me with respect u will get it back doubled....treat me like a **** for no justified cause....im gonna get pissed off an smack ya...way i work...but imo u cant compare rl to daoc....ye its a passion/addiction but it just aint the same

 

[Cemeterygates]

Yesyes i used to be an assistant manager on a statoil , but i quit as i figured out that i really hate management jobs ... so now im an assistant manager in a supermarket ?

What was ure chars name ?

i really dont remmeber what char i was on dude...but prob woulda been nzeee or nzeethesecond....1st bein bm an 2nd bein my ranger...

 

[Konah]

Go down the pub tonight and pick some random bloke stood at the bar. Go up to him and start yelling at him that he's a "retard" for drinking with his right hand and that righthanders like him (because we all know k00l kidz drink with their left hand) should f*ck off to some other pub. See if he just /ignores you.

im 6foot3, 18stone, martial arts trained with an evil scots temper and a crew cut. i think theres a fair chance he would /ignore me tbh.

bad analogy perhaps

 

[Spetsnaz]

its very simple, even for a villa fan, find yourself offended? beginning to be offended?

/ignore [insert offender here] works every time and is far faster than emailing GoA.

don't like swearing? then plz explain, in detail, why you turned off the /filter?

i always play without filter so i know what a person saying to me and sometimes there is some funny stuff going on like this

but when some 1 gets on other person account (ie Peavz who i know and who could posibly ask something afterwardes to me for example) and dont want to identify himself but prefers to continue in same style...

i dont mind the abusive f^^k off, u are the bigest lammers etc

but when a person tells me he hopes i die IRL i got furious (cause this aint funny at least i dont see it that way at all...) and i tell u why ... because the opend an not that old bad expierence flashed at that point in my mind and that was carring cofin of my friend on my shoulder who was the same age as im

so i dont care but if it was irl and he was in front of me at that point i would learn him some manners (as his parents obviously failed to do so) but since he declaired that he dont mind if that account gets banned i did what i though was the best thing to do ... send him on some vacation so he cools down or if it wasnt him playing i think the real owner will be pissed with him and teach him some manners in my place hopefully...

im 6foot3, 18stone, martial arts trained with an evil scots temper and a crew cut. i think theres a fair chance he would /ignore me tbh.

bad analogy perhaps

and im Rambo

over and out

 

[OohhoO]

Nothing is a faster learning curve than having your group give you a good verbal bollocking.

Nothing is a faster learning curve than a well-deserved enforced holiday

 

[Solari]

Nothing is a faster learning curve than a well-deserved enforced holiday

Maybe even 2

 

[Culanan]

then again you will find alot more swearing in games like counterstrike, wich is alot more "youth" playing than adult.

swearing is not clever, just degrades yourself buts its definatly common, so i dont see why we have to be so stubborn here.

just /ignore, and go kill them, or enjoy when whine if you prefer that

in short swear words mean nothing on internet, as you simply cant insult someone by swearing - thats not the way it works.

CS is not a pay to play service with a distinct ingame community (it's fiercly competitive but who really stops for a chat in the middle of a game or do some crafting), it's regulated by a clan, the player or the players guardian.

GOA have more to answer for, whilst I personally have little problem with "casual" swearing, I do find people who start to swear because you added by accident, did something which in their opinion was "wrong" to be arseholes anyway and worthy of an /ignore.

Generally the only place I swear is in guild or in a grp with people I know, I'm grown up and responsible enough to know that running around the street swearing might be acceptable where I come from (which it is but then where I come from is a violent crime ridden hellhole!) but it's not something you'd want to do everywhere and in front of anyone, imagine walking around the streets of copenhagen spouting your mouth off "casually", all you do is create negative views about yourself and where you're from, how hard is it to have a little bit of pride and self respect?

Everyone has a right to freedom of speech and that includes the use of foul language but with some self-control it isn't neccessary to let loose in order to get your point across and the air is less blue

 

[Culanan]

3 - What right do you (I don't mean you Cemetary I mean you as in any person being abusive in game ) have to be abusive to me just because its a game - if you told me to f'off, die irl etc in RL I would quite probably kick the shit out of you because you have offended me plain and simple- but because its a game and you haven't got the same potential consequence of your actions doesnt make it ok - therefore leaving /filter off means I can screenshot you and let you have a little holiday - granted not as good as giving you a good kicking but hey ho it will do for now...

Talk about over reaction! They merely offend you, get a beating, you get done for assault and quite possibly go to jail for a reaction faaaaaaaaar beyond the provocation.

Puts it in pespective for me, people should stop crying about bans, nothing compared to people who can and will hurt you irl! lol

 

[evzy]

For once I wish someone would actually read the whole thread here and not just quote something from a page back - the above was an example of how a course of action/behaviour can lead to a consequence in RL but because its a game people assume that there can be no such consequence for their actions..

Seriously if anyone here really thinks that its ok to be abusive in a game just because its a game then they are more retarted than I originally thought/feared...And by all means if you see me in game pls pm me some abuse if thats how you think - it really won't bother me and I actually will enjoy SS'ing and emailing it off to GOA

Someday some of you may become old enough to realise that swearing is actually just part of the vocabulary and is something to be used sparingly and really only useful/needed/warranted in certain cirumstance (out with your mates, shouting at ya crap footy team etc) and not something that you need to use just to look cool n l33t and make you feel like a grown up. Then I may listen to your point of view without thinking "aaaaw shame"....

 

[Culanan]

For once I wish someone would actually read the whole thread here and not just quote something from a page back - the above was an example of how a course of action/behaviour can lead to a consequence in RL but because its a game people assume that there can be no such consequence for their actions..

Seriously if anyone here really thinks that its ok to be abusive in a game just because its a game then they are more retarted than I originally thought/feared...And by all means if you see me in game pls pm me some abuse if thats how you think - it really won't bother me and I actually will enjoy SS'ing and emailing it off to GOA

Someday some of you may become old enough to realise that swearing is actually just part of the vocabulary and is something to be used sparingly and really only useful/needed/warranted in certain cirumstance (out with your mates, shouting at ya crap footy team etc) and not something that you need to use just to look cool n l33t and make you feel like a grown up. Then I may listen to your point of view without thinking "aaaaw shame"....

And I'm pointing out that the ingame consequence is far below that of the one you posted, relatively speaking it's a slap on the wrist to be banned.

I agree that there ought to be consequences for actions, there are unacceptable reactions irl as well you know

Fyi I did read the thread, I just couldn't be arsed replying until I found something I found personally amusing at a certain level rather than argue the toss with people with titanium reinforced skulls, there is a certain irony in your post though don't you think?

 

[DocWolfe]

I dont give a crap if people swear. Its part of life, theres nothing better than putting a curse word into a statement to give it more umpf.

"I got trollied last night, and I'm still drunk" -> "I got trollied last night, and I'm still fucking drunk"

I love swearing, regardless of whether or not its a family game or not, kids are exposed to swearing all the time. You can't protect them forever. You're better teaching them how to use it in the right context, rather than them coming home and saying something to you.

A couple of weeks ago someone had a go at me in guild chat for saying shit, I was like why... the filters there for a reason if you're easily offended, then go hide under a rock. Life is violent, you turn the news on and you see some suicide bombers. Whats worse? seeing a suicide bomber kill himself and a couple of people being injured/killed or someone saying shit every once in a while? In my opinion the first is much worse.

Children under 13, shouldn't even be playing the game/using the internet unless they are supervised anyway. There are so many freaks out there that would be willing to take advantage of a kid. Oh noes my child never swears, if your kid doesn't already know/use cursewords at the age of 13, then they live a seriously sheltered life and you should be encouraging them to go out more.

If someone tells you to piss off theres a reason for it, just walk away, take it. Dont go crying to mummy. You can't in the real world. If someones harasssing you /ignore. It works everytime. There are so many features in the game that allow you to avoid abuse, I dont see why people dont use them. There certainly aren't nice little features in real life to help you avoid it.

"Mr. Policeman someone told me to piss off!" They would laugh at you. Someone can't lob a brick through your window in a game, thats a reason to go to the cops.

I'm sure someones going to say "I dont pay monthly subs to hear someone swear!". If you go to the cinema or to a theme park and you hear someone swearing you dont go to the greasy teenager working at the burger van and complain that someone swore do you?

Get over it.

 

[Shike]

Where the hell did the idea come from that the rules should change cause the playerbase is getting smaller?

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

I guess you pointed that reply to me? (if not, disregard my following post) I said...

Banning players in an already thin playerbase because of verbal misconduct is just plain dumb and unnecessary. It should be enough with a GM popping on telling the person to calm down alittle bit and put alittle thought into the words (as an extreme punishment..). If that said person then go on and type alot of bullshit in /as /broad /bu etc then its perhaps time for a 3dayban, if he didnt learn from that, permaban since then the player is beeing obnoxious and plain stupid and he/she is probably not an asset to the game anyway.

Now.. explain to me.. where in hell did I say anything about changing rules because of anything? Or are you just assuming things?

I said, I repeat and hope you will understand aswell: Banning players in an already thin playerbase because of verbal misconduct is just plain dumb and unnecessary. That means exactly: Its stupid to ban players because of something as silly as swearing, the playerbase is thin aswell which makes it even more stupid since the company have to keep a good customerrelation on a higher level than for example a huge game like WoW with millions of players (GOA arent the masters of this though.. never was and probably never will be as long as they dont use ingame CSR's). Now you might assume I believe radarers shouldnt be banned either, because of a small playerbase but believe me, I do not believe so. Swearing is a very minor offense and if it goes so far that people really feel uncomfortable because of it, a GM can step in as I suggested. Radaring as an example is a horrible cheat and the abuser should be hung up in his testicles for a week if using it, if it is a female then it is fine with shaving the persons head and tatoo; "Im a looser" on the forehead.

Anything else you want clarifed?

 

[evzy]

Yeah there is - but the point I am trying to get across is simply that actions can have consequences - I wouldnt neccesarily kick the crap out of someone just for giving me lip in RL (though being honest I probably would) its just a shame you can't reach down ya phoneline and pull some of the gobshites back through it sometimes - would stop them behaving in the horrible way they do(not that violence is the answer ..but sometimes its all some idiots understand and beating sense into them is the only option ). I don't mind arguing with them on here myself simply because it helps pass the day in work - I don't actually give a flying pigs nuts as to what they actually have to say in their defence because as far as I am concerned they are just talking outta their rear ends in trying to justify their behaviour towards others. Though I am getting bored of this thread now as its doing that standard whine thread thing where every 2 pages it seems to recycle itself and repeat itself. Might go find me something else to browse for a bit ...cya when I get bored

 

[Shike]

I actually wish I could put /ignore on some people in RL.. would be quite nice, in RL we cannot always escape idiots, ingame we actually can.

 

[Culanan]

Yeah there is - but the point I am trying to get across is simply that actions can have consequences - I wouldnt neccesarily kick the crap out of someone just for giving me lip in RL (though being honest I probably would) its just a shame you can't reach down ya phoneline and pull some of the gobshites back through it sometimes - would stop them behaving in the horrible way they do(not that violence is the answer ..but sometimes its all some idiots understand and beating sense into them is the only option ). I don't mind arguing with them on here myself simply because it helps pass the day in work - I don't actually give a flying pigs nuts as to what they actually have to say in their defence because as far as I am concerned they are just talking outta their rear ends in trying to justify their behaviour towards others. Though I am getting bored of this thread now as its doing that standard whine thread thing where every 2 pages it seems to recycle itself and repeat itself. Might go find me something else to browse for a bit ...cya when I get bored

Agreed that it's tempting to give it some to the idiots out there who deserve it, although it's amazing how small you can make peope feel without resorting to abuse or swearing, it's almost an artform!

 

[evzy]

Tbh don't ban people for swearing but ban em all for being abusive - would rather run around a server with 50 nice people than 500 tits.

 

[OohhoO]

It's pretty simple IMO...
1) The people who run the game make the rules.
2) If you don't like the rules - don't play.
3) If you decide to play anyway & break the rules - Don't whine when you get slapped for it.

<wonders what the problem is>

 

[Rediknight]

Look, people swear in game all the time - "holy shit" and "wtf" are two that jump instantly to mind that are, to me and probably most non-ahmish, much more of a casual "swear" if you like. They just happen to be part of the way i speak. Not often the way i type, but y'know... stuff...

I doubt you'd get that many complaints logged about someone uttered either of them in the course of a civilised conversation outside Sauvage - granted, there maybe one or two, but in the whole there couldn't be many. Theres no way that GoA would just willy nilly ban one person for one random swear, and a complaint from one person. I am sure that it would take a significant whine, a check of logs and then a decision made based on that.

As the guy back a few pages said - he reported for abuse, but it wasn't just a random bit of cursing, it was having someone /y /s /t die irl, using twinked words to bypass the filters and generally making a prick of himself as he chucked his toys out of the pram.

He wouldn't have gotten a ban if the people concerned in the report didn't think it necessary, and taking into consideration that, from what i gather from other posters here, this isn't the first time the guy's been stung for this, you'd think he'd know better...

then again, some people are just ooooh, anarchic!!! Yeah, <insert random rebellion> go you guys... :|

 

[Maeloch]

Here's some news folks: alienating someone by sending em aload of abuse and thereby silmultaneously handing em the means to give you a few days holiday, means sometimes you will get a holiday.

I make no moral judgement either way, purely a point of practicality!

 

[evzy]

Redi start talking some shite for once dude, getting sick of repping ya!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rediknight again.