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Just watching this program, early on it seemed fairly convincing because the kids came across very well and you felt really sorry for them. Then slowly it started to feel a bit forced, some of the stuff they were saying seem coached. Halfway through, the single father raising a couple of kids on £87 a week is talking about how few jobs are out there, camera pans to him searching for jobs on his Playstation 3 connected to broadband. Really? Poor these days is having a 300 quid console and a broadband internet package?

I feel bad for kids stuck in damp houses, wearing second hand clothed and eating shit food but I have zero sympathy for the parents when I see them owning flat screen TV's, new trainers and obvious drug/alcohol problems. The worst part of all this? It really harms the cause of those who are genuinely below the breadline, literally can't put the lights on or feed the kids because public perception is that all people on benefits are scroungers when that is clearly not the case. That idle fucker on his Playstation 3 needs to get off his arse, take a low paying job and tax credit if need be, set his children a proper example instead of getting them to tell the camera how poor they are whilst he has a Playstation 3 controller in his hand.
 

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To be fair they probably asked him to give the interview while on the ps3, there's all kinds of management on these programs.
 

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To be fair they probably asked him to give the interview while on the ps3, there's all kinds of management on these programs.

Quite possibly bud, it doesn't really change the message though, he is sat there telling us how hard done to he is and he little lad is even arguing his case about why he often goes without lunch. Sell the fucking PS3 you gimp! Get broadband cutoff and goto the jobcentre or look in the free job papers, save every penny you can and feed your bloody kids!
 

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You know what I am do when I am skint or having to save for something important? Buy a 9p 500g bag of pasta and throw half of it into a large casserole dish, add an 18p jar of pasta sauce, whack in 6 sausages from a frozen pack of 18 (£1.20) with a bit of dried basil, salt and sugar. Bake the fucker in the oven for 30 mins. That feeds me for lunch, dinner and lunch the next day, 3 large meals for under £1. If I can do it so can he, stretching your food budget isn't that hard if you lower your expectations a bit and learn some basic cooking skills.
 

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Didnt show it but i bet they smoked too and was always money for cigs hehe..

But yeah he had a huge flat screen tv and a ps3 and obviously bb too so he needed to get his priorities straight.

Cant have dinner but can afford to put a quid in to watch tv for 6 hours.
 

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Could be that these PS3s and flatscreens are from a previous, financially better, time.

The kids handle it a lot better then the parents though and it can even strive them to become better at managing money etc.

People do need to learn how to cook good food with little money, it's easy as peas.
 

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Could be that these PS3s and flatscreens are from a previous, financially better, time.

The kids handle it a lot better then the parents though and it can even strive them to become better at managing money etc.

People do need to learn how to cook good food with little money, it's easy as peas.

Nope, the guy has been raising the kids alone for over 5 years. During that time they were no better off, the kids are all at school and he would be much better off taking a part time job and claiming tax credit. Instead though he is living on £87 a week, the house is a pigsty and he doesn't seem motivated to change even when he has no food for his kids lunch. Sell the fucking Playstation and get broadband cut off, that partly solves the problem but this program was not interested in looking at solutions only filming percieved poverty and pushing thier own social agenda.
 

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Cant have dinner but can afford to put a quid in to watch tv for 6 hours.

Yep. He is an idle bastard who is betraying his children and flushing thier futures down the toilet. The kids I feel total sympathy for, he has even brainwashed them into believing the fault doesn't lay with him. Don't fucking have kids if you are not prepared to dedicate your life to looking after them. That is a big reason I don't have kids, for a long long time I just didn't feel I was up to the job, it might seem selfish but at least I am not burdening society in the process.
 

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I hate ppl that have kids but have to get the state to pay for them cause they cant afford it.

a) the kids have a shit life
b) why should i pay my taxes so some lazy git can procreate

BTW i decided i dont want kids too hehe , which pissed me off with the labour government who gave like loads to families with kids and took from those who didnt.
 

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Nope, the guy has been raising the kids alone for over 5 years. During that time they were no better off, the kids are all at school and he would be much better off taking a part time job and claiming tax credit. Instead though he is living on £87 a week, the house is a pigsty and he doesn't seem motivated to change even when he has no food for his kids lunch. Sell the fucking Playstation and get broadband cut off, that partly solves the problem but this program was not interested in looking at solutions only filming percieved poverty and pushing thier own social agenda.

Oh right, well, that's that then :p

He should spank the kids to cleaning the house, then make them all take a paper route(or other jobs) and use the buggers to fund his partynights and drinking habbits :D
 

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Yes, I think we should introduce a law where you can only have kids if you're rich and if at some point you lose it all, you have to give your kids to a rich couple.
Of course we would still have kids moaning that there parents were only millionaires while some kinds in school have billionaire parents.

If you really fucking poor, with nothing to offer your offspring whatsoever except a childhood of feeling unlucky, it might be a good idea to put them off till you've sorted your shit out.

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Wonder if cHo would feel as strongly had the parent been using an Xbox instead of a PS3.

inb4 bla bla no browser on 360.
 

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Oh right, well, that's that then :p

He should spank the kids to cleaning the house, then make them all take a paper route(or other jobs) and use the buggers to fund his partynights and drinking habbits :D

Proper parenting, set the kids a standard, then the entire family should live up to it including dad. :)
 

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Wonder if cHo would feel as strongly had the parent been using an Xbox instead of a PS3.

inb4 bla bla no browser on 360.

That's different, Xbox is educational! ;) :D :p
 

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Yes, I think we should introduce a law where you can only have kids if you're rich and if at some point you lose it all, you have to give your kids to a rich couple.
Of course we would still have kids moaning that there parents were only millionaires while some kinds in school have billionaire parents.

If you really fucking poor, with nothing to offer your offspring whatsoever except a childhood of feeling unlucky, it might be a good idea to put them off till you've sorted your shit out.

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No no mate, just don't have kids and then sit at home bleating all day about how poor you are whilst having enough cash for electronics but not for kids school uniforms or lunch. There are plenty of single parent familes out there who do just fine even on benefits, mum/dad manages the budget properly and whilst it is always going to be hard the kids do get the basics. When the BBC start pushing the agenda though and show an idle fucker on his PS3 saying how poor they are it just makes my head want to explode.

I know what it is like to be dirt poor, good parents find ways to make it work though, that includes doing every shitty job they can to scrape a living. Oh and they don't live in shitholes either, the examples that sets to kids is just vile. A cloth and warm water don't cost much. Elbow-grease is free.
 

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You can do a nice tuna bake for like £2-3 with expensive sources etc and its fucking tasty. Oh the days were I could eat lots of carbs and western food :(

But yea I agree, half of these low life pond life you see on tv make me sick.
 

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Yes, I think we should introduce a law where you can only have kids if you're rich and if at some point you lose it all, you have to give your kids to a rich couple.
Of course we would still have kids moaning that there parents were only millionaires while some kinds in school have billionaire parents.

If you really fucking poor, with nothing to offer your offspring whatsoever except a childhood of feeling unlucky, it might be a good idea to put them off till you've sorted your shit out.

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You're dead right about eating cheap / lowering expectations.

(remembers eating scrambled egg from a shoe with a comb in his student days)
 

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WELL ACTUALLY,this is hardly new, preventing the poor from procreating was very popular indeed in the 30's. In fact Churchill and Roosevelt were supporters of the idea, it just took Hitler to put it in practice, then everyone jumped about screaming about his evil social experiment, which was a bit rich, because they wanted to do it as well, but didn't have the bottle to brainwash the people.

It won't go away, you hear such sentiments at every dinner party (down at the clan meetings, knock three times, wear a hood).
Seriously, someone will do it again, it's either the poor, or the chav, or the foriegner, it's built into us, we just don't realise that we might be on the recieving end one day.
 

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I'm all for responsible people having children, but irresponsible people having more children then they can afford and manage without heavy subsidising really gets on my tits.
 

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i'm all for responsible people having children, but irresponsible people having more children then they can afford and manage without heavy subsidising really gets on my tits.

qft

Why should i have to pay for you to have kids ?
 

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You're dead right about eating cheap / lowering expectations.

(remembers eating scrambled egg from a shoe with a comb in his student days)

lol Lamp, you are batshit mate. That wasn't your life, it was Neal from The Young Ones! :D
 

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What a fucking tool! If my little girl needed anything and we didn't have the money for it I would sell everything I own. Including my PC. As it is sometimes the missus and I don't get as much to eat as we would like so the little one can eat, be clothed properly and go to nursery twice a week.

I work part-time for Tesco because that's all I can get with no qualifications and all they would give me, the missus started her own business when her old company started being retards about her working around our daughter. We get working and family tax credits and about a third of our rent in housing benefit, though tbh we wouldn't take a penny in housing benefit if we didn't have to because it's a pain in the arse.

At the end of the day you make do with what you've got, you scrimp and save and deny yourself luxuries and you always, ALWAYS put your children first.
 

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What a fucking tool! If my little girl needed anything and we didn't have the money for it I would sell everything I own. Including my PC. As it is sometimes the missus and I don't get as much to eat as we would like so the little one can eat, be clothed properly and go to nursery twice a week.

I work part-time for Tesco because that's all I can get with no qualifications and all they would give me, the missus started her own business when her old company started being retards about her working around our daughter. We get working and family tax credits and about a third of our rent in housing benefit, though tbh we wouldn't take a penny in housing benefit if we didn't have to because it's a pain in the arse.

At the end of the day you make do with what you've got, you scrimp and save and deny yourself luxuries and you always, ALWAYS put your children first.

You should be proud of yourself for that mate, it is what proper parents do, your best for your kids and what you want/need goes on hold.
 

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Meet this whining mother of 4 at the pub, who was smoking and downing beer after beer, who whined about who poor she was, my question to her was how she could afford all the beer and smokes, shes there pretty much everytime im there to have dinner.. Priorities...
 

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I'm actually going to say something that's not popular(shocker), but kids shouldn't come absolute first. If you put your financial security over your kids, you're a moron 'cause it'll harm your kids in the long run.

First priority is to make enough income to secure the eats of the family, be it a move to another country or whatever the f*ck it is, the kids can handle it. They'll whine and stomp their feet, but they'll be fine. And that's just the initial thing, there's a lot more things that should go before a kid.

Think part of the problem is also parents who put their kids over everything, on a pedestal and treat them like little miracles.
 

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Meet this whining mother of 4 at the pub, who was smoking and downing beer after beer, who whined about who poor she was, my question to her was how she could afford all the beer and smokes, shes there pretty much everytime im there to have dinner.. Priorities...

Utterly selfish, she is pretty much a child herself in many ways. As I said before, you dedicated your life to your kids when you decide to have them, to do otherwise is going to have drastic repercussions for both the child and society. I look around at alot of parents now, some are even friends and they are doing a rotten job of raising thier kids because they are obsessed with shit like the latest phone, TV, car, holidays etc and totally lose sight of the morals they are inflicting upon the child. In extremes like the case of this guy in the documentary, you end up with a father who would rather keep his TV/Playstation/broadband than put food on the table for his kids.

Removing a TV, mobile phone, console and stereo is not deprivation. We raised our children just fine without them before and we can do it again, especially if it is a tradeoff between food/basic clothing or crap to keep us entertained.

Saying that, this fucking government and the wanker local governments will have closed all the libraries soon, there goes free access to books which will educate and entertain far more than a TV will ever manage. It will be a much worse society when that access dries up, one of the legs of modern civilisation will have been kicked out from underneath us.
 

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