Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[Wij]

Knighthood if you change your kind and vote for my deal.

OK.

Redwood knighted for service to politics

 

[Scouse]

Jesus fucking christ I told one story about someone else who wasnt insured.
I have car/van/motorbike/jetski/ public indemnity and as if yesterday, holiday insurance.
Which totals a depressing 2200 quid a year.
But tell a lie often enough.

What's your objection to a car phoning for help when a crash may have incapacitated people then?

 

[Gwadien]

What's your objection to a car phoning for help when a crash may have incapacitated people then?

Because fuck the police (unless they pull you over for no reason and ask you for stuff and you accept even though you legally don't have to)

 

[Gwadien]

By using your logic @Job is this what we're to expect in a post-brexit UK? (outside London, obvs)

Icy Siberia reveals cracks in Putin's Russia

 

[DaGaffer]

Anyway.
Coming to an EU by you no doubt.

Chinese schools enforce 'smart uniforms' with GPS tracking system to monitor students - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

You do understand the EU is probably the least likely place on Earth to implement such a thing? You also understand the most Orwellian state (currently) in the EU is the UK? By quite some distance? Seriously its like you live in alternate reality sometimes.

 

[Job]

The EU has passed a law that every car sold within its borders has to have a gps chip that uses the Galileo system..it also has a microphone and a speaker.
Im sure this would be quite handy if you crashed in a remote area..but to suggest the fucking immense level of potential for abuse is tinhattery is probably not an issue for the ecitizens on this forum.

Its for your safety citizens.
Just press the red button and continue your journey.

 

[Scouse]

Cars already have GPSs, microphones and speakers @Job. And that's even if you aren't already carrying around your mobile phone.

And that's in the UK. And do you see an appetite to reverse that?

'Potential' for abuse? Well, I guess they can track and listen to us - but as @DaGaffer says, that's more likely in the UK than the EU. And either way - it's not china.

 

[DaGaffer]

The EU has passed a law that every car sold within its borders has to have a gps chip that uses the Galileo system..it also has a microphone and a speaker.
Im sure this would be quite handy if you crashed in a remote area..but to suggest the fucking immense level of potential for abuse is tinhattery is probably not an issue for the ecitizens on this forum.

Its for your safety citizens.
Just press the red button and continue your journey.

Tracking you for law enforcement reasons is a (distant) secondary objective; this is all about autonomous driving which is the inevitable future. We won't be driving our own cars within 20 years; probably less, and the UK will be absolutely no different to the EU in this regard; if anything the UK will probably do it first.

 

[Bodhi]

View: https://twitter.com/SwissEmbassyUK/status/1073551454152089605?s=19


Tricky, those trade deals.

 

[Job]

NP when its one country..put 27 together and ..well NP either, Germany just overides them all.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/SwissEmbassyUK/status/1073551454152089605?s=19


Tricky, those trade deals.

I’d read the small print. They’ve agreed to transfer current terms if we go with May’s deal during the transition period which is what was expected. There’s also a statement of intent to do so as far as possible in the event of no deal but that isn’t yet fully ratified and the caveats aren’t yet known and would likely be limited in some regards by how much we align with single market rules.

Switzerland is also landlocked so the friction of the trade is not exactly in their control except for items flown in.

 

[dysfunction]

I didn't think the UK was allowed to sign any trade deals until after Brexit had happened.

 

[DaGaffer]

I didn't think the UK was allowed to sign any trade deals until after Brexit had happened.

...and they haven't signed this one. It's a letter of intent.

 

[Bodhi]

I’d read the small print. They’ve agreed to transfer current terms if we go with May’s deal during the transition period which is what was expected. There’s also a statement of intent to do so as far as possible in the event of no deal but that isn’t yet fully ratified and the caveats aren’t yet known and would likely be limited in some regards by how much we align with single market rules.

Switzerland is also landlocked so the friction of the trade is not exactly in their control except for items flown in.

Apologies, forgot you miserable bastards were only interested in bad news.

 

[Embattle]

Norton boss Stuart Garner says UK better prepared for Brexit than media claim

 

[Scouse]

Apologies, forgot you miserable bastards were only interested in bad news.

Real news. Not just good intentions.

 

[Embattle]

Why Britain decided to leave the EU – but other countries haven’t | Coffee House

 

[DaGaffer]

Why Britain decided to leave the EU – but other countries haven’t | Coffee House

LOL. Completely ignored Ireland because it completely refutes all his arguments.

 

[Ormorof]

Dont need trade deals if not shipping anything out, clever

Brexit freight ferry firm appears all geared up – to deliver pizzas

 

[Job]

Not Brexit..not riots in Paris.

Apple profit worries.
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[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/jamesffarmer/status/1080877464686116864

 

[Embattle]

https://www.politico.eu/article/ken-clarke-interview-brexit-populism-tories/

 

[Scouse]

Italy joins list of classy EU countries that have said "don't worry, Brits, you can stay here after brexit no matter what your shitty country does to Italian nationals"


Meanwhile, Blighty still refuses to give the same assurances to other EU nationals.

Because Europeans are better than us.

(Queue facepalm from @Embattle who doesn't like what is increasingly clear - that the EU countries are measureably less cuntish than us)

 

[Job]

The Henry Jackson think tank..on first look you could accuse it of epic bias.
But if you bother to investigate..it is a very well peer reviewed and respected organisation that is supported by all political sides, has released its latest run down of the world political situation.

Again it has the UK as second strongest country in the world with no discernable effect from brexit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...7-says-london-think-tank-20190104-p50pit.html

 

[Wij]

Just for the ratings


View: https://twitter.com/SimonUbsdell/status/1080760117845475328

 

[Gwadien]

The Henry Jackson think tank..on first look you could accuse it of epic bias.
But if you bother to investigate..it is a very well peer reviewed and respected organisation that is supported by all political sides, has released its latest run down of the world political situation.

Again it has the UK as second strongest country in the world with no discernable effect from brexit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...7-says-london-think-tank-20190104-p50pit.html

Douglas Murray (author) - Wikipedia

k m8.

Also, do you only not listen to the 'experts' when they disagree with you?

 

[Scouse]

The Henry Jackson think tank..on first look you could accuse it of epic bias.
But if you bother to investigate..it is a very well peer reviewed and respected organisation that is supported by all political sides, has released its latest run down of the world political situation.

Again it has the UK as second strongest country in the world with no discernable effect from brexit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...7-says-london-think-tank-20190104-p50pit.html

You can't peer-review things that aren't science.

 

[Job]

You can review the meth..methol.
Methodology.

Bit difficult to apply actual experimentation to geopolitical stats.

 

[Job]

Douglas Murray (author) - Wikipedia

k m8.

Also, do you only not listen to the 'experts' when they disagree with you?

I agree and disagree.
His views on Islam are pretty well mine..that we shouldnt accomodate a medieval cult and should be proactive in eliminating it by generation.

 

[Bodhi]

Italy joins list of classy EU countries that have said "don't worry, Brits, you can stay here after brexit no matter what your shitty country does to Italian nationals"


Meanwhile, Blighty still refuses to give the same assurances to other EU nationals.

Because Europeans are better than us.

(Queue facepalm from @Embattle who doesn't like what is increasingly clear - that the EU countries are measureably less cuntish than us)

Um, the article kind of shows that the list of "classy" EU countries that have said there will be no issue is:

Italy.

3rd Paragraph:

“Our worst fears are over. This makes Italy the first EU27 country to publicly declare their plans for citizens’ rights post-Brexit, and to provide the reassurance we have been awaiting so long,” said the group in a statement.

Meanwhile our government's position doesn't exactly sound like we'll be rounding people up and sticking them on a ferry:

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/no-deal-brexit-consequences-eu-citizens-living-uk-what-happens/