Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[Job]

So May is saying this deal is worse than hers.

Theres something fishy going on or everyones just had enough.

 

[Embattle]

So May is saying this deal is worse than hers.

Theres something fishy going on or everyones just had enough.

She was saying it to those on the remainer camp.

 

[Wij]

May's didn't have a border in the Irish sea for a start.

 

[Job]

EU can shut off power supplies if UK tries to seize control of fish stocks, small print of deal reveals

Cables under Channel meet 8 per cent of demand - raising threat of higher prices and possible blackouts

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Jupitus]

Worse still, endless Brexit thread...

I reckon we lock it in a couple of weeks?

 

[MYstIC G]

I reckon we lock it in a couple of weeks?

Nah, that would be effort plus it'll just f'kn respawn anyway. Likely with bitching overtones along the lines of "how dare you close a thread when you should be banning job" and such.

 

[Gwadien]

Nah, that would be effort plus it'll just f'kn respawn anyway. Likely with bitching overtones along the lines of "how dare you close a thread when you should be banning job" and such.

How dare you be discussing closing a thread when you should be banning job?

 

[Raven]

Just ban him from using certain phrases like 'ethnics' 'blm' 'msm' and so on.

 

[Scouse]

Maybe just make all his text pink?

 

[Job]

Well of course it was all theatre.
It amuses me that people dont realise everything is.

We are going to spend the next five years realising all theyve done is scribbled out IN and written OUT in wax crayon.

The threat of a no-deal Brexit was nothing more than a hoax | Tom Kibasi

The imaginary doomsday scenario was never credible to the EU but was a powerful force to shape UK domestic politics, says politics and economics writer Tom Kibasi

www.theguardian.com

 

[Job]

Its a bit rude not hear from the architect.


View: https://youtu.be/Ibs8090XEjM

 

[Embattle]

He is a overwhelming tosser that the majority don't care about any more, especially since he keeps trying to make himself relevant again and get more money, ideally publicly funded no doubt.

 

[caLLous]

Not really since as shocking as it may seem they aren't even in the same sort of ball park for right wing nuttiness, you might of been slightly closer if you said about the Guardian article I linked but then I've posted them before so still not the glass house situation you are trying to infer.

RICHARD KAY: A fond salute to Brexit's bitter losers

Tonight Britain will leave the European Union for good, as the demands of the 2016 referendum are finally met. So, more than 1,600 days after the vote, who are the biggest losers of the Brexit deal?

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ormorof]

You might even say the negotiations were... Embattled

 

[Wij]

Urgh:


View: https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1344592936177176577

 

[Raven]

So a guy who lives in France a lot of the time, who voted remain, wants to remain in France.

Why would have thunk it.

Awkward for Boris in the rapid tabloid sense of the word but nothing really to see here, unless you're into sins of the father and all that. His sister was in that side show 'change' party too.

 

[caLLous]

Boris Johnson’s Brexit trade deal with EU branded worst UK negotiation in at least 40 years

Government must learn from mistakes ‘or we will all pay’, warns Tony Blair’s former chief of staff

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Job]

The Guards economic editor is a leaver.
How progressive.

The left must stop mourning Brexit – and start seeing its huge potential | Larry Elliott

Those who predict economic Armageddon ignore the reality. The status quo wasn’t working, says the Guardian’s economics editor, Larry Elliott

www.theguardian.com

 

[Wij]

The Guards economic editor is a leaver.
How progressive.

The left must stop mourning Brexit – and start seeing its huge potential | Larry Elliott

Those who predict economic Armageddon ignore the reality. The status quo wasn’t working, says the Guardian’s economics editor, Larry Elliott

www.theguardian.com

Fucking Corbyn was a Leaver. Owen 'prick' Jones is getting all Leavey. Never liked 'em.

 

[Wij]

Its a bit rude not hear from the architect.


View: https://youtu.be/Ibs8090XEjM

I noticed he thought the NI protocols and fishing bits were rubbish.

He then got quite a lot of bits wrong and forgot that NI existed entirely when he said 'At least we've got rid of regulatory alignment' but what the heck.

 

[Job]

So first thing for Macron to do was start this shit up all over again.
Stupid English brexiters

Britain leaves EU single market with a whimper rather than a bang as chaos yet to materialise

Dover and Holyhead very quiet amid reduced service and advanced stockpiling

www.independent.co.uk

 

[caLLous]

 

[Job]

When cheaper cucumbers is far more important.

 

[Scouse]

Adieu to the single market created by the UK

The UK’s new single market is not as big as the country, it now needs to encompass the whole world.

www.bbc.co.uk

Could Brexit mean a massive uptic in education spending?

One of our problems is how poorly educated our general populace is - we started down the US model of giving give confidence in our kids limited abilities rather than having fantastically able but underconfident kids before GCSE's came along.

We're going to need to reverse that trend.

 

[Wij]

Adieu to the single market created by the UK

The UK’s new single market is not as big as the country, it now needs to encompass the whole world.

www.bbc.co.uk

Could Brexit mean a massive uptic in education spending?

One of our problems is how poorly educated our general populace is - we started down the US model of giving give confidence in our kids limited abilities rather than having fantastically able but underconfident kids before GCSE's came along.

We're going to need to reverse that trend.

I don't get the link.

 

[Job]

Adieu to the single market created by the UK

The UK’s new single market is not as big as the country, it now needs to encompass the whole world.

www.bbc.co.uk

Could Brexit mean a massive uptic in education spending?

One of our problems is how poorly educated our general populace is - we started down the US model of giving give confidence in our kids limited abilities rather than having fantastically able but underconfident kids before GCSE's came along.

We're going to need to reverse that trend.

Is there any point in trying to beat Asians?
They are fanatically driven and who the fuck wants our kids growing up like that, change course.
Do what we have always done..innovate, be the place that does cheesy bluesky instead of just making what we have cheaper and faster.
We have one of the worlds greatest brands...use it.

 

[Embattle]

@Wij Arthur Cockfield, Baron Cockfield - Wikipedia

 

[Scouse]

I don't get the link.

Was just thinking. Nothing very specific but Faisal does say this:

There are a number of structural economic problems, from poor training, declining productivity and low investment that were not caused by EU membership which, in terms of non-tariff barriers, are made immediately worse by this type of Brexit, for which the UK has no option but to deal with

Poor training addressable by government means poor education. Companies train employees to do what they need to do but unless the workforce is already well educated then it's a fucking nightmare - like herding cats.

If we're pitching for high-skill industries we need not only an educational uptick but a cultural shift where intellect is valued - England is incredibly culturally anti-intellectual (Job is, unfortunately, far from a rareity).

We're going to have to compete against countries that have that cultural advantage. And alongside that we're going to have to reverse the decline in the quality of our education - which is something we traditionally held a lead in.

 

[Wij]

Was just thinking. Nothing very specific but Faisal does say this:

Poor training addressable by government means poor education. Companies train employees to do what they need to do but unless the workforce is already well educated then it's a fucking nightmare - like herding cats.

If we're pitching for high-skill industries we need not only an educational uptick but a cultural shift where intellect is valued - England is incredibly culturally anti-intellectual (Job is, unfortunately, far from a rareity).

We're going to have to compete against countries that have that cultural advantage. And alongside that we're going to have to reverse the decline in the quality of our education - which is something we traditionally held a lead in.

I don’t see the Johnson government doing anything radical to improve education. They haven’t got the talent to pull it off and rely on populist resentment of education for votes.

 

[Embattle]

Again the biggest issue isn't Johnson, it is what is on the other side in parliament.