To me reasonable debate requires a certain amount of respect between the parties, something which is sorely lacking around here. Somewhat evidenced @caLLous by your hitting the dislike button and bolding the word do in your reply, like I'd miss it in the sentence if you hadn't taken the trouble.
Because the emphasis was not necessary. It makes it read that you're labouring a point you've struggled to get across to me, except you haven't struggled because you've only just made it.What has me using emphasis got to do with (dis)respect? I thought it was worth highlighting because, for all the failings of all the other people on here, this is a noticeably nicer place when @Job isn't around. And no, that's not because literally everybody apart from him has been "conditioned by the MSM", it's because it seems like all he does is try to get under peoples' skin. That's not debate (it's not even conducive to debate - people often try which is usually exactly what leads to this very discussion) and it certainly isn't respectful.
I disliked your post because your default response whenever this comes up (and the fact that it comes up repeatedly should be quite telling) is to tut at other users, as if anybody else on here can be compared to him. His account has been temporarily banned on at least two occasions, he's had warnings slapped on his posts and it looks like he's had at least one warning privately. To shrug it off and say "you're all as bad as each other" isn't constructive (or remotely accurate) imo.
That's literally earlier in this same thread.I stopped directly reading nearly everything he posts a long while ago, I get the gist of his current posts by those who believe they can change him by endlessly replying to him....you haven't and you won't.
Fair enough, for the most part. I didn't think anything of the bold bit (and it wasn't attached to the dislike), it wasn't intended as you've understood it. I don't believe in mechanically ignoring people, all it takes is for one person to reply to him and a thread can quickly become derailed by the subsequent back and forth. I rarely reply to him directly nowadays because it's simply not worth the thinking time to try and extract a single point or conclusion from most of his posts. I've said before (as have others), in the spirt of that @Embattle post, that the easiest way to deal with him is to just not bother reading his posts and maybe he'll get bored and go away but someone (admittedly sometimes me) usually falls for something he says and responds to it.Because the emphasis was not necessary. It makes it read that you're labouring a point you've struggled to get across to me, except you haven't struggled because you've only just made it.
For what it's worth, you brought up @Job not me. It's also worth pointing out that if it is noticeably nicer without him then @Job doesn't need to be removed by me or @Jupitus or anyone else for that to happen. Everyone has access to the ignore feature that works instantly and is as permanent as you choose to make it. What we see though is that everyone continues to engage with @Job rather than ignore him and engage elsewhere so they get what they get. Most of the threads on here are one form or another of groups or individuals repeatedly and pointlessly re-engaging with the nonsense over and over again. All for what? So at some point he maybe concedes something and they win at arguing with @Job on the internet?
<Sarcasm> Well *clap* ... *clap* ... fucking *clap*... what a worthwhile exercise that will be. </Sarcasm>
I was not going for anything like "as bad as each other" as you suggest. Rather it would be nice to see some of our regulars take a step up out of the gutter themselves as it saddens me to see everyone playing down there. Personally I'd rather be posting bad clips from Superman 3 or talking about games like @Scouse suggested.
By the way, I notice you didn't appear to have the same stance your taking with my posting when @Embattle basically said the same thing.
That's literally earlier in this same thread.
He's just calling you a victim Job, get over itMoonbat as usual, he doesnt even acknowledge the vote, its evil capitalists and racists looking for someone to blame or a way to make a buck.
Not the slighteset reference to anything that people dislike about the EU, their opinion is worthless to him.
To one sort of capitalist, the insecurity and chaos that Brexit will bring is horrifying. To the other, is it highly profitable, says Guardian columnist George Monbiotwww.theguardian.com
Why would they need to do that?I hope they asked the EU first.
The French move risks escalating a long-running fight over how to make US tech multinationals pay their fair share of taxes.. Read more at straitstimes.com.www.straitstimes.com
You should tell the people on the forum you're getting these articles from that we've left the EU so there isn't really much benefit for the continued criticism, unless you're planning to move to France ofc, which I'd be surprised if you did. No, actually, I wouldn't, moving to a foreign country and trying to get them to change their laws because you don't like them seems a very you thing to do.Theyre really going for it , but Im not sure they know what they want to be.
Ah the French, so unfathomable.
PARIS — Against a backdrop of street protest—even in the midst of a COVID lockdown—and increasing police violence and repression, France Tuesday passed the draconian Global Security Law which could make it an offense punishable by a year in jail and a 45,000 euro fine to film, post, and identi...www.peoplesworld.org
I think the French can and will do whatever they like regardless if we're in or out of the EU.Very much to do with brexit, weve only been gone 10 minutes and the French are jackbooting.
But we're the Nazis probably
There are certain things they can't do, such as violence against the people by the state and this sort of thing most likely will have the EU complaining but there isn't much they can do about it, legally in itself. They can insist the violence, that the French state appears to be trying to hide (rather worryingly) stops and forcibly if necessary but I am not sure there is much they can do about journalist suppression.I think the French can and will do whatever they like regardless if we're in or out of the EU.
The idea that we have to run everything past the EU is a Brexiteer concept which simply isn't true.
It's a multi-year subjugation of a people to make them like the rest of us.I'm not entirely sure where the French government thinks this is going to lead, oppressing everyone hasn't exactly worked out for them in the past and the French do love a good protest!
So who will fix that, the left or the right?It's a multi-year subjugation of a people to make them like the rest of us.
I work closely with french teams every day. It's a common talking point. I admire that they kick off - it's ingrained in their culture to fight injustice, but over time their rights are being eroded.
We look on and go "fucking bolshy french" - rather than thinking "what is it that is upsetting them so much?". But then - we're already slaves. We show no solidarity to people in our own country when we know they're suffering, yet we suck the cock of the rich and rally around them if someone has the temerity that they pay their fair way.
Only the Germans follow the rules, the French are considerably more pragmaticPerson who insisted bad thing would never happen says were must blame people who always warned that it would happen for the fact that it is happening: