Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[Job]

Just utter boloks.
Losing the UK from the EU is its greatest calamity by a thousand fold since its creation.
As the German minister pointed out..its like losing 19 of the smaller countries at once.

We are ground zero for Europe and I know the self haters find this hard to stomach, but thats the reality.
Of course tge EU will carry on but now Germany and France are left alone with a shitshow of basketcase politics and economies...even their own are under serious threat from the ultra right.

Now they get to deal with
Spain...fucked
Italy..totally fucked
Greece..game over
Poland..fuck u eu
The entire Eastern Europe..give us money to keep in line.
Ukraine..help us fight the Russians.

Jesus.

 

[DaGaffer]

Just utter boloks.
Losing the UK from the EU is its greatest calamity by a thousand fold since its creation.

Yes. It is. And yet its still more manageable for the EU than the UK in a no-deal scenario.

And learn to write "Bollocks" properly. You're not a child.

 

[Wij]

The great news continues:

London to lose €800bn to Frankfurt as banks prepare for Brexit

 

[Wij]

I think for once we can all agree with Alistair Campbell’s assessment of May’s letter:

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL: Lie by lie, May’s deceit is exposed

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/tcross81/status/1068115933540036608


I’m sure @Wazzerphuk is loving it.

 

[Ormorof]

I think main problem with any argument put forward by Alistair Campbell is that he is so tainted by the blair years and all the spin and lies and shit he helped put out. Means a huge section of population who should be listening to these kind of arguments will dismiss him outright

 

[Wij]

I think main problem with any argument put forward by Alistair Campbell is that he is so tainted by the blair years and all the spin and lies and shit he helped put out. Means a huge section of population who should be listening to these kind of arguments will dismiss him outright

I know that well. But I read the article and he's quite right. May's letter is a tissue of lies and misleading half-truths regardless of who is pointing it out. Besides, I thought it being Campbell would provoke a response

 

[dysfunction]

So the options are:

1. Take the deal
2. No deal
3. No Brexit

I take option 3 thanks.

No deal or no Brexit if MPs vote down May plan, says Tusk

 

[Job]

Well tbh..who gives a shit what tusk says.
Thats like saying to the wife...no were going to pay full price for the car cos the salesman says we have to.

What has happened to remoaners ..they are like rabbits in the EUs headlamps.

 

[Job]

I think for once we can all agree with Alistair Campbell’s assessment of May’s letter:

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL: Lie by lie, May’s deceit is exposed

Jesus h christ campbell..you are qouting campbell.

 

[dysfunction]

Those are the choices.

The EU are not going to renegotiate. That's been made clear.

It still amazes me about the amount of arrogance the Leave people have that they can create another option that isn't available.

 

[Wij]

Well tbh..who gives a shit what tusk says.
Thats like saying to the wife...no were going to pay full price for the car cos the salesman says we have to.

What has happened to remoaners ..they are like rabbits in the EUs headlamps.

Anyone who says negotiating trade agreements or EU treaties is anything like buying a second hand car needs to go live in the sea.

 

[Bodhi]

The great news continues:

London to lose €800bn to Frankfurt as banks prepare for Brexit

So you're quoting the main lobby group to get banks to move to Frankfurt (lol) as proof banks are moving to Frankfurt.

Have they figured out how they are going to move Euro Clearing out of London without also pissing off New York and turning the Euro into a backwater currency in the process?

 

[dysfunction]

Perhaps banking may be an obstacle but insurance and IT certainly are not. If you remove EU business done in the UK economy you are in big trouble

 

[Bodhi]

The wife works in Insurance for one of the massive brokers, and has been quite heavily involved in her company's plans for after we leave. Her words? As long as we still have access to our dollar account no issues are forseen.

Guess it's just IT then.

 

[Bodhi]

I think for once we can all agree with Alistair Campbell’s assessment of May’s letter:

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL: Lie by lie, May’s deceit is exposed

I'm guessing if we do leave the EU will be able to launch WMDs at us in 45 minutes?

Has he asked David Kelly what he thinks?

Oh.

 

[dysfunction]

The wife works in Insurance for one of the massive brokers, and has been quite heavily involved in her company's plans for after we leave. Her words? As long as we still have access to our dollar account no issues are forseen.

Guess it's just IT then.

You guess wrong.

I work in insurance and we have purchased a European company in anticipation of the Brexit failure. So the European entity will do all the business in Europe from now on regardless. And we are not the only ones doing that.

Any corporation tax or employment opportunities are now in in Europe....

Yay go Brexit!

 

[Job]

Those are the choices.

The EU are not going to renegotiate. That's been made clear.

It still amazes me about the amount of arrogance the Leave people have that they can create another option that isn't available.

Jesus christ..I'd hate to have you lot negotiating a deal.

 

[Job]

You guess wrong.

I work in insurance and we have purchased a European company in anticipation of the Brexit failure. So the European entity will do all the business in Europe from now on regardless. And we are not the only ones doing that.

Any corporation tax or employment opportunities are now in in Europe....

Yay go Brexit!

Except we can easily just lower our tax..because we are a free country...and the no morality corporations will jump ship.

 

[dysfunction]

Except we can easily just lower our tax..because we are a free country...and the no morality corporations will jump ship.

That all depends on the tariffs and trade restrictions you fuck wit...

 

[Job]

Anyone who says negotiating trade agreements or EU treaties is anything like buying a second hand car needs to go live in the sea.

You lot are actually just coming on here..quoting the latest negotiation from the EU and presenting it as the 5th law of thermodynamics.
If Tusk announced tomorrow that also we'd all have to wear eu boxer shorts...you'd be like ..see, now we have to do this..are you happy now leavers?

 

[Job]

That all depends on the tariffs and trade restrictions you fuck wit...

Exactly, but the EU knows tax cuts trump the lot..thats their biggest fear, a united kingdom.as big as us going feral on them.

 

[dysfunction]

You lot are actually just coming on here..quoting the latest negotiation from the EU and presenting it as the 5th law of thermodynamics.
If Tusk announced tomorrow that also we'd all have to wear eu boxer shorts...you'd be like ..see, now we have to do this..are you happy now leavers?

There are only 3 thermodynamic laws...

 

[dysfunction]

Exactly, but the EU knows tax cuts trump the lot..thats their biggest fear, a united kingdom.as big as us going feral on them.

No they are not worried at all. Get that into your thick skull.

 

[Bodhi]

You guess wrong.

I work in insurance and we have purchased a European company in anticipation of the Brexit failure. So the European entity will do all the business in Europe from now on regardless. And we are not the only ones doing that.

Any corporation tax or employment opportunities are now in in Europe....

Yay go Brexit!

So smart enough to plan for it all going tits up yet not smart enough to set themselves up to pay the no doubt lower rates of tax in the UK? Just at the point where the EU are rumbling about harmonising Corporation Tax levels? O.. K...

Maybe its perhaps worth expanding outside of the EU? The wife works in Global Servicing, and is seeint far more growth in the Rest of the World, all of which will continue to be written through London, bringing in more tax as it goes.

Which has always been my point? Why are we focused so much on one (stagnating) market when there's a whole wide world out there?

 

[Gwadien]

So smart enough to plan for it all going tits up yet not smart enough to set themselves up to pay the no doubt lower rates of tax in the UK? Just at the point where the EU are rumbling about harmonising Corporation Tax levels? O.. K...

Maybe its perhaps worth expanding outside of the EU? The wife works in Global Servicing, and is seeint far more growth in the Rest of the World, all of which will continue to be written through London, bringing in more tax as it goes.

Which has always been my point? Why are we focused so much on one (stagnating) market when there's a whole wide world out there?

There's a programme on the Beeb right now about the Foreign Office.

There's a bit in where they're talking about investment in Africa and saying that our investment is outdated and in the wrong industries and we can't really compete with the likes of China who will offer to build a motorway running throughout a country in return for trade.

The EU could probably afford to build a motorway in Africa though if it's trade we're bothered about.

 

[dysfunction]

So smart enough to plan for it all going tits up yet not smart enough to set themselves up to pay the no doubt lower rates of tax in the UK? Just at the point where the EU are rumbling about harmonising Corporation Tax levels? O.. K...

Maybe its perhaps worth expanding outside of the EU? The wife works in Global Servicing, and is seeint far more growth in the Rest of the World, all of which will continue to be written through London, bringing in more tax as it goes.

Which has always been my point? Why are we focused so much on one (stagnating) market when there's a whole wide world out there?

You really have no clue how it works and yet so confident in that it's all just bullshit.
Tell me then why has Lloyd's of London insurance created a European "Lloyd's" insurance instead of just waiting for Brexit??

Answer that please...

Oh in case your tiny brain doesn't know this is Lloyd's
Lloyd's - The world’s specialist insurance market. Also known as Lloyd's of London; is a market where members join together as syndicates to insure risks.

 

[dysfunction]

You facepalm @Embattle but can you explain why?

 

[caLLous]

Of course he can't.

 

[dysfunction]

No of course not especially since this is on the front page of their website:

Lloyd’s Brussels starts new chapter for Lloyd’s in Europe - Lloyd's - The world’s specialist insurance market. Also known as Lloyd's of London; is a market where members join together as syndicates to insure risks.