Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[dysfunction]

No of course not especially since this is on the front page of their website:
Lloyd’s Brussels starts new chapter for Lloyd’s in Europe - Lloyd's - The world’s specialist insurance market. Also known as Lloyd's of London; is a market where members join together as syndicates to insure risks.

 

[Embattle]

Of course he can't.....

...be bothered to keep hearing circular pointless arguments and links pushed by remainers as if they matter or have actually managed to do anything other than harden most leavers views since they didn't get the reason for the initial leave vote any way, oh and my reply is also circular and utterly pointless as I've said it before.

BTW Just for a quick and only response regarding financial services etc since I get bored of shouting into black holes, various operations will still be done in London but any moves to the EU area will stay there no matter the outcome of the next few years and pointless endless arguments on these boards or more importantly in Parliament because of the instability any possible outcome would cause to EU operations.

Toodles

 

[dysfunction]

Great avoidance there @Embattle...I'm talking about something very real and actually happening and yet you respond vague and non committal.

 

[Gwadien]

...be bothered to keep hearing circular pointless arguments and links pushed by remainers as if they matter or have actually managed to do anything other than harden most leavers views since they didn't get the reason for the initial leave vote any way, oh and my reply is also circular and utterly pointless as I've said it before.

BTW Just for a quick and only response regarding financial services etc since I get bored of shouting into black holes, various operations will still be done in London but any moves to the EU area will stay there no matter the outcome of the next few years and pointless endless arguments on these boards or more importantly in Parliament because of the instability any possible outcome would cause to EU operations.

Toodles

What about the point I made that you disagreed with?

Problem is I'm not sure if you disagree that the EU can try to outperform China or that we need to invest in Africa in order to trade with them.

 

[Wij]

Tum tee tum:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[Billargh]

Great avoidance there @Embattle...I'm talking about something very real and actually happening and yet you respond vague and non committal.

Imagine just throwing little sniping facepalms around cause people are daring to discuss Brexit in a thread about Brexit and bottling any attempt at discussing it yourself. I guess by not committing he wins or something.

 

[CorNokZ]

There are only 3 thermodynamic laws...

@Job already wrote the fourth

 

[Wij]

Rate away people


View: https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1068494351863619585

 

[Embattle]

<-really need this as a rating

Toodle pip!

 

[Job]

Gareth Southgate is a fully paid up PC public figure and is just extending his own insecurities into the debate.

Let me join in from my armchair.

Racists are bad, I love everybody and Trump is stupid and UKIP are all thick.

Gets seat at dinner table

Both barrels..really?
Its racist...how fucking epic of him.

 

[Bodhi]

You really have no clue how it works and yet so confident in that it's all just bullshit.
Tell me then why has Lloyd's of London insurance created a European "Lloyd's" insurance instead of just waiting for Brexit??

Answer that please...

Oh in case your tiny brain doesn't know this is Lloyd's
Lloyd's - The world’s specialist insurance market. Also known as Lloyd's of London; is a market where members join together as syndicates to insure risks.

I know exactly who Lloyd's are thanks, the wife works in one of the buildings next door. Plans for Lloyd's Brussels have been in place for years just through natural expansion, and if Brexit was a major concern, they probably would have focused on that rather than opening Lloyd's of India in 2017....

But then as I'm sure you're aware, Lloyd's were quite limited in what they could provide to the EU under Freedom of Service anyway, which is why no one uses them for that.

 

[Wij]

Viewers hail Stephen Fry's 'perfect' Brexit 'myth busting' video claiming Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg are the real 'Project Fear' — Evening Standard

Let’s see how many disagrees and facepalms I can rack up today...

 

[caLLous]

 

[Scouse]

This is what Brexit is all about. Not much else really. Fix this and you fix the desire for change, not just in the UK, but across Europe and the rest of the world.

We want our dignity back and we want to be able to live from our work, which is absolutely not the case today

 

[Gwadien]

Viewers hail Stephen Fry's 'perfect' Brexit 'myth busting' video claiming Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg are the real 'Project Fear' — Evening Standard

Let’s see how many disagrees and facepalms I can rack up today...

I mean like, Stephen Fry doesn't like Brexit, therefore no-one should.

He's always right.

 

[Job]

Yes..disconnected, elitist, rich , celebrities belittling brexiters is just what this situation needs.

Immigration is fantastic..it helps the economy..in fact my private doctor is from Pakistan, hes a lovely chap, I really dont know what these xenophobes are going on about..he trained at Oxford and loves a bit of Polo, why are so they racist?

 

[Bodhi]

Ten myths from the ‘no-deal’ Project Fear | Coffee House

 

[Wij]

Ten myths from the ‘no-deal’ Project Fear | Coffee House

Laughably poor.

Just to pick a few points, he ignores the effect of the de-valued pound on imports which could easily offset the effect of abolishing all import tariffs. Also fails to mention that the only economist who was advocating that, Patrick Minford, freely admits that move would decimate UK manufacturing. He also seems to be in the minority of people who don't seem to think that unilaterally lowering your import tariffs leaves you in a shit position to negotiate new trade deals because the other party has already got what they were after.

He picks the one quarter where the UK did will against the G7 average and ignores the others where it didn't.

He forgets to mention that the biggest reasons the UK economy has held together better than expected are that the BoE spewed cash into it to prop it up and also that the world economy performed much better than expected. Also we haven't left yet and many businesses are hoping that we either won't or we'll stay in the single market. The effects of hard brexit haven't really been factored into the economy yet.

The old forecasts are always wrong thing. Yes, they often are. Things happen that weren't expected. That doesn't change the fact that it's perfectly reasonable to expect that, other things being equal, an economy will perform worse when new trade barriers are erected than it would if they weren't.

The old WTO is great thing, despite the fact that nobody trades on WTO terms. Why would that be if they are fine?

Yadda yadda. You know that's a load of bollocks Bodhi. Troll better next time.

 

[Wij]

@Embattle You facepalm and yet you said you’d vote for May’s deal. So according to that you’d vote to give the EU £39 billion for no good reason and agree to follow EU regulations for no good reason.

Does not compute.

 

[Wij]

 

[Job]

I love watching Labour prattle on about what they'd do.

2 problems.

They are well behind in the polls.

Corbyn is a brexiter.

 

[Wij]

I love watching Labour prattle on about what they'd do.

2 problems.

They are well behind in the polls.

Corbyn is a brexiter.

Can’t disagree with that. Labours stance is a joke.

 

[Embattle]

 

[Wij]

Crops rotting in fields due to sharp fall in migrant labour

 

[Embattle]

Migration to UK from non-EU nations surges to highest total since 2004

 

[Job]

Crops rotting in fields due to sharp fall in migrant labour

Just complete claptrap...seasonal migration increased after brexit.
Its just an industry looking to ensure its cheap/slave labour supply isnt affected.

 

[Job]

Migration to UK from non-EU nations surges to highest total since 2004

That is a totally different issue from brexit and has always gone on..they have been promising reductions for 50 years..but obviously no one on either side wants to do it.

 

[Job]

Laughably poor.

Just to pick a few points, he ignores the effect of the de-valued pound on imports which could easily offset the effect of abolishing all import tariffs. Also fails to mention that the only economist who was advocating that, Patrick Minford, freely admits that move would decimate UK manufacturing. He also seems to be in the minority of people who don't seem to think that unilaterally lowering your import tariffs leaves you in a shit position to negotiate new trade deals because the other party has already got what they were after.

He picks the one quarter where the UK did will against the G7 average and ignores the others where it didn't.

He forgets to mention that the biggest reasons the UK economy has held together better than expected are that the BoE spewed cash into it to prop it up and also that the world economy performed much better than expected. Also we haven't left yet and many businesses are hoping that we either won't or we'll stay in the single market. The effects of hard brexit haven't really been factored into the economy yet.

The old forecasts are always wrong thing. Yes, they often are. Things happen that weren't expected. That doesn't change the fact that it's perfectly reasonable to expect that, other things being equal, an economy will perform worse when new trade barriers are erected than it would if they weren't.

The old WTO is great thing, despite the fact that nobody trades on WTO terms. Why would that be if they are fine?

Yadda yadda. You know that's a load of bollocks Bodhi. Troll better next time.

Its not laughably poor, the most outrageous part of it for me is the NI hard border..this is utter bollocks.

R4 has the retired head of customs from the border on the phone..he rang in to point out the utter shite that was being discussed in the media about it..the presenter was trying everything to undermine him to keep the myth going.
He just slowly and logically ripped the hysteria apart with facts.
They never mentioned it again because it didnt fit the agenda.

 

[Wij]

Its not laughably poor, the most outrageous part of it for me is the NI hard border..this is utter bollocks.

R4 has the retired head of customs from the border on the phone..he rang in to point out the utter shite that was being discussed in the media about it..the presenter was trying everything to undermine him to keep the myth going.
He just slowly and logically ripped the hysteria apart with facts.
They never mentioned it again because it didnt fit the agenda.

At what point did I mention the Irish border?

 

[Ctuchik]

Except we can easily just lower our tax..because we are a free country...and the no morality corporations will jump ship.

Yeah that'll work great until your money runs out. Then what, print some more?

Tax cuts are a short term solution for short sighted people.