Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement
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I know what you meant....
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No since nearly all of them are fuckwits, but I prefer fuckwits I might stand a chance of removing or even seeing once in my lifetime....that is unless this whole thing hasn't exhausted all my political interest by the end of it.
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So we aren’t getting a long term deal unless we give Gibraltar to Spain:
View: https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1066405032306896896
View: https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1066405032306896896
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Suddenly, in the space of a moment, I realized what it was that I loved about Britain - which is to say, all of it. Every last bit of it, good and bad - Marmite, village fetes, country lanes, people saying 'mustn't grumble' and 'I'm terribly sorry but', people apologizing to me when I conk them with a nameless elbow, milk in bottles, beans on toast, haymaking in June, stinging nettles, seaside piers, Ordnance Survey maps, crumpets, hot-water bottles as a necessity, drizzly Sundays - every bit of it.
What a wondrous place this was - crazy as fuck, of course, but adorable to the tiniest degree. What other country, after all, could possibly have come up with place names like Tooting Bec and Farleigh Wallop, or a game like cricket that goes on for three days and never seems to start? Who else would think it not the least odd to make their judges wear little mops on their heads, compel the Speaker of the House of Commons to sit on something called the Woolsack, or take pride in a military hero whose dying wish was to be kissed by a fellow named Hardy? ('Please Hardy, full on the lips, with just a bit of tongue.') What other nation in the world could possibly have given us William Shakespeare, pork pies, Christopher Wren, Windsor Great Park, the Open University, Gardners' Question Time and the chocolate digestive biscuit? None, of course.
How easily we lose sight of all this. What an enigma Britain will seem to historians when they look back on the second half of the twentieth century. Here is a country that fought and won a noble war, dismantled a mighty empire in a generally benign and enlightened way, created a far-seeing welfare state - in short, did nearly everything right - and then spent the rest of the century looking on itself as a chronic failure. The fact is that this is still the best place in the world for most things - to post a letter, go for a walk, watch television, buy a book, venture out for a drink, go to a museum, use the bank, get lost, seek help, or stand on a hillside and take in a view.
All of this came to me in the space of a lingering moment. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like it here. I like it more than I can tell you.
Bill Bryson, Notes from a Small Island
What a wondrous place this was - crazy as fuck, of course, but adorable to the tiniest degree. What other country, after all, could possibly have come up with place names like Tooting Bec and Farleigh Wallop, or a game like cricket that goes on for three days and never seems to start? Who else would think it not the least odd to make their judges wear little mops on their heads, compel the Speaker of the House of Commons to sit on something called the Woolsack, or take pride in a military hero whose dying wish was to be kissed by a fellow named Hardy? ('Please Hardy, full on the lips, with just a bit of tongue.') What other nation in the world could possibly have given us William Shakespeare, pork pies, Christopher Wren, Windsor Great Park, the Open University, Gardners' Question Time and the chocolate digestive biscuit? None, of course.
How easily we lose sight of all this. What an enigma Britain will seem to historians when they look back on the second half of the twentieth century. Here is a country that fought and won a noble war, dismantled a mighty empire in a generally benign and enlightened way, created a far-seeing welfare state - in short, did nearly everything right - and then spent the rest of the century looking on itself as a chronic failure. The fact is that this is still the best place in the world for most things - to post a letter, go for a walk, watch television, buy a book, venture out for a drink, go to a museum, use the bank, get lost, seek help, or stand on a hillside and take in a view.
All of this came to me in the space of a lingering moment. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like it here. I like it more than I can tell you.
Bill Bryson, Notes from a Small Island
Wij
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Putin’s poll ratings are in the doldrums so it’s time for another war.
Russia-Ukraine Feud Heats Up the Sea of Azov: Echoes of Russia’s War with Georgia?
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Id call it fucking around with stuff they dont understand while having the States as a back up in case it catches fire.
No problem..soon they can use their army to keep Russia in check.
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Everyone blames the EU for offering Ukraine hope of joining the club.
It was an idiotic move utterly guaranteed to get a reaction from Russia.
Considering the geography and demographics if the country...its just another empire building fuck up.
Forget Brexit, war in Ukraine is the biggest threat to Europe | Simon Jenkins
It was an idiotic move utterly guaranteed to get a reaction from Russia.
Considering the geography and demographics if the country...its just another empire building fuck up.
Forget Brexit, war in Ukraine is the biggest threat to Europe | Simon Jenkins
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Mostly bollox that:
"Its attempted military encirclement by Nato was as reckless as London’s welcome to Moscow’s massed oligarch and kleptocrats."
That's just repeating Kremlin talking-points. Do you know what percentage of Russia's fucking enormous border is a NATO country?
Ukraine's feelings about Russia pre-date both the EU and NATO. This was not started by either. Putin has been trying to install puppet-regimes in its neighbours since he became president. When Yanukovych was thrown out after a popular uprising against him Russia responded by invading. This is just another step in its escalation.
Russia's neighbours have a right to be ruled as they want, not by how Putin wants. And you don't discourage Russian aggression by continually, meekly giving ground (as Obama did).
Jenkins was also wrong about sanctions. The sanctions that actually do work are targeted at oligarchs, rather than the state itself. The Magnitsky Act and such.
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I will do when I find some substance to discuss, all I'm seeing are numbers pulled out of an (friendly) economist's ass. Guess we'll have to see the full report, but given a) who is funding it, b) who is presenting and c) it's a long term economic forecast I shall remain sceptical for now.
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Thats interesting, they must be the greatest economic forecaster on the planet..presumably every hedge fund will be betting against the pound.
You'd think theyd keep it to themselves.
Oh I know..its a wild guess based on what they know now.
You'd think theyd keep it to themselves.
Oh I know..its a wild guess based on what they know now.
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